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Old 10-08-05, 02:13 PM
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Boxoffice Numbers for Oct 8 weekend

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Friday, October, 7, 2005

1. WALLACE & GROMIT MOVIE: CURSE OF THE WERE-RABBIT, THE 4.2 4.2
2. FLIGHTPLAN 3.1 53.7
3. IN HER SHOES 3.0 3.0
4. TWO FOR THE MONEY 3.0 3.0
5. GOSPEL, THE 2.6 2.6
6. WAITING 2.1 2.1
7. CORPSE BRIDE, THE 1.7 37.6
8. SERENITY 1.6 14.3
9. INTO THE BLUE 1.5 10.7
10. HISTORY OF VIOLENCE, A 1.5 12.8

It appears WALLACE & GROMIT will end up making about $15 million for the weekend, somewhat less than I expected, but still decent.

Yikes, looks like word of mouth that SERENITY was a stinker spread pretty fast and the film took one of the biggest weekend to weekend drops I've seen in years. It almost dropped past INTO THE BLUE!!! Joss Whedon needs to learn that all the overblown advertising in the world won't help your movie if your movie is crap. Right, folks?
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Glad to see Wallace and Gromit leading! I'm not sure i'll get the chance to catch the film in theaters, but I'm a huge fan of the previous shorts as well as Chicken Run.

Surprised Serenity tanked in it's second week. I thought the word of mouth was pretty good, even for non-fans. *shrug*
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Serenity is a stinker?
I beg to differ.
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Always nice to start a thread with a thread crap.. hell I didn't really like Serenity much and the OP is still going out of her way.

the film took one of the biggest weekend to weekend drops I've seen in years.
Out of curiosity.. what are you talking about? Serenity dropped 60% compared to last Friday. Both Roll Bounce and Corpse Bride took 60% hits in their second weekend's friday, and that was what.. a week ago?
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Wallace & Gromit is only going to wind up making about $5 million more this weekend than Serenity did last weekend; and Two For the Money - an f'ing Al Pacino flick is going to make LESS than Serenity did. People just aren't going to movies this month, folks.
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Yeah, it really isn't a matter of flopping, just a matter of expandable income I suppose. Gas to get to the theatre and general prices (oh yeah, that's the best excuse) Simply put.... there's no real big hits this time of year.
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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Yikes, looks like word of mouth that SERENITY was a stinker spread pretty fast and the film took one of the biggest weekend to weekend drops I've seen in years. It almost dropped past INTO THE BLUE!!! Joss Whedon needs to learn that all the overblown advertising in the world won't help your movie if your movie is crap. Right, folks?

Wow, nice knowing you, dude.
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I'm glad we have people like this making such valuable contributions to the forum.

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Wow, nice to see a threadcrapper kick off a box office thread. Serenity a stinker? Yeah, tell that to the:

- 108 (out of 134) film critics who gave the film a positive review.
- The film critics who are giving this film generally favorable reviews.
- The 13,000+ users on IMDb who have pushed the flick into the Top 125.
- Theater audiences across the country who gave the flick an "A."

You threadcrapping son of a....

Anyway, onto the box office thread itself. Shannon is right, people just aren't going to the movies this month. While you don't have the greatest choices in the world to pick from, there are a few winners out there (Wallace & Gromit, Serenity, The Corpse Bride, and A History of Violence) that aren't getting that much exposure. So thus a reason for low box office.
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Bummer about Serenity. Great movie, horrible time to release it. I'd imagine that this makes a sequel less likely, unfortunately. Good sales of the DVD might cause Universal to give it some more consideration, though.

We'll see...
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Serenity is a great film but boxofficewise it is a flop - sad to say. Success is all about expectations and Serenity was expected to do much better than this.

Hulk made 132 mil at the boxoffice and is considered a bomb even to this day. Why? Because it was expected to do much, much better. Expectations were pretty modest for Serenity and the film is doing much worse than even the modest predictions. It won't make back it's production costs much less marketing. Yes, it will break even on DVD but I believe this is the last we will see of Firefly which is a shame, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel
Wow, nice to see a threadcrapper kick off a box office thread.

You threadcrapping son of a....
Is it really threadcrapping if he started the thread?

Just askin'.
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Don't confuse hopes with expectations, and don't confuse us Internet geeks with the general populace. We all hoped for greatness, but I doubt anyone at Universal seriously expected much more than this. If they did, they're incredibly foolish, because this was an obvious gamble with a small chance of success. I just can't see how a niche movie with no stars from a cancelled tv show unknown to almost everyone that will likely break even by the end of its cycle can be considered a flop by anything but the most unrealistic of standards. We probably won't get the sequels, but if it simply breaks even, it will be a solid accomplishment no matter how disappointed the diehards are. This isn't a binary situation where the only options are "flop" and "megahit".

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Originally Posted by Joe Molotov
Is it really threadcrapping if he started the thread?

Just askin'.
He crapped on his own thread!

Nice....
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Originally Posted by das Monkey
Don't confuse hopes with expectations, and don't confuse us Internet geeks with the general populace. We all hoped for greatness, but I doubt anyone at Universal seriously expected much more than this. If they did, they're incredibly foolish, because this was an obvious gamble with a small chance of success. I just can't see how a niche movie with no stars from a cancelled tv show unknown to almost everyone that will likely break even by the end of its cycle can be considered a flop by anything but the most unrealistic of standards. We probably won't get the sequels, but if it simply breaks even, it will be a remarkable accomplishment no matter how disappointed the diehards are.

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By conventional wisdom and logic Serenity should never have been made in the first place. It was indeed remarkable that Joss was able to get it made - and it woulnd't have happened if not for the loyalty of the Firefly fan base.

It did beat out a couple higher profile movies in it's first week, which was another significant accomplishment.

The fact that the movie is so well regarded by most critics and most people who have seen it is just icing on the cake.
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2 stop-motion movies in the top 10
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Wallace & Gromit is only going to wind up making about $5 million more this weekend than Serenity did last weekend; and Two For the Money - an f'ing Al Pacino flick is going to make LESS than Serenity did. People just aren't going to movies this month, folks.
"Starring Al Pacino" doesn't exactly scream hit movie these days.

As for WALLACE, wait for the Saturday numbers, as with any family film. Don't write it off just yet. CHICKEN RUN started off mild too.

I'm thinking (hoping) it will have long legs. It's a real charmer of a film.
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Originally Posted by B5Erik
By conventional wisdom and logic Serenity should never have been made in the first place. It was indeed remarkable that Joss was able to get it made - and it woulnd't have happened if not for the loyalty of the Firefly fan base.

It did beat out a couple higher profile movies in it's first week, which was another significant accomplishment.

The fact that the movie is so well regarded by most critics and most people who have seen it is just icing on the cake.
This is true. The film was a crapshoot all along, and I don't think any release date was necessarily going to be an easy sell for this film. Its previous April release date might've been better...hard to say.

But this is starless, based on a tv show most people haven't seen scifi. Not the formula for box office success necessarily. It's underperforming expectations for sure. Though I don't think it has anything to do with word of mouth...word of mouth is good for this niche audience. Heck word of mouth on Star Trek First Contact was good, but these fan scifi properties have never really been known to have good legs. And Serenity didn't have the larger fanbase of a Star Trek movie either.

As for W&G...I imagine it will have some good legs...though it seems like everything seems to be underperforming expectations the last couple weeks. Heck, the whole year.
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Yeah this has been a slow fall, the biggest hits (flightplan and emily rose) will wind up with 75-80mill. Usually there's been something that hits 100.

I have to admit I got a laugh out of Perk's post.
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whats up with the box office? Serenity dropping to ninth place. Suprised Into the Blue didnt do better either, cause I thought the movie was pretty good.

I cant see Serenity making enough to warrent sequels.
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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Yikes, looks like word of mouth that SERENITY was a stinker spread pretty fast and the film took one of the biggest weekend to weekend drops I've seen in years. It almost dropped past INTO THE BLUE!!! Joss Whedon needs to learn that all the overblown advertising in the world won't help your movie if your movie is crap. Right, folks?
#1 Your first statement contains a falsehood (that word-of-mouth on Serenity is bad) and an exaggeration (the drop percentage).

#2 Your third statement is full of ignorance ("overblown advertising?") and hate (I'm sure you've seen the movie so you can justifiably call it "crap").

#3 "Right folks?" You are so very wrong.
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I agree it wasnt bad word of mouth and the drop wasnt huge at all
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Originally Posted by Perkinsun Dzees
Yikes, looks like word of mouth that SERENITY was a stinker spread pretty fast and the film took one of the biggest weekend to weekend drops I've seen in years. It almost dropped past INTO THE BLUE!!! Joss Whedon needs to learn that all the overblown advertising in the world won't help your movie if your movie is crap. Right, folks?
You saw the drop, but did you bother to see the movie before telling us that it's 'crap'? I think any Firefly fan who has seen the movie will at least be somewhat pleased with the result, and some (like me) will be more than happy with what they saw on the big screen.
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Flightplan is showing some decent legs.

What counts the most is the BOX OFFICE.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
Wallace & Gromit is only going to wind up making about $5 million more this weekend than Serenity did last weekend; and Two For the Money - an f'ing Al Pacino flick is going to make LESS than Serenity did. People just aren't going to movies this month, folks.
I'm wondering if this isn't a direct result of current events and projected ones, what with gas prices high and energy prices being forewarned as going to be high to boot. Could be people are tightening their belts early on in expectations of the coming DVD rentals that they know are coming for the holiday season, as well as saving their bucks for the season on the whole.

Shannon is right, people aren't going to the movies this month, and with the itinerary of films on the way I wonder what movie will change that before Harry Potter 4 hits in November, then King Kong in December. There are some decent prospects this month and next- Elizabethtown, The Fog remake, Saw II, The Legend Of Zorro, Walk The Line, possibly Chicken Little......but on a week by week basis I think the BO is gonna go back in the tank.

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