Lugosi Collection - Fault on The Black Cat?
08-31-05, 09:20 AM
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Lugosi Collection - Fault on The Black Cat?
There's an ugly rumour that in this recently released (in fact the actual date is the 6th September, but apparently it;s shipping already) set, this film has a disc fault about 35 minutes in, that causes freezing, pixellation and chapter skipping.
Anyone got this disc, had any problems if you have?
If it's a bad batch, then Universal might do a repress, but that probably won't help owners outside of r1. Studios usually won't ship replacements outside of the release's intended region, no matter where it was bought.
It looks like this is another one of those darn DVD-18's. I keep seeing people having problems with these - and particularly Universal releases (like The Munsters set). I wish they'd stick to DVD-9's.
Anyone got this disc, had any problems if you have?
If it's a bad batch, then Universal might do a repress, but that probably won't help owners outside of r1. Studios usually won't ship replacements outside of the release's intended region, no matter where it was bought.
It looks like this is another one of those darn DVD-18's. I keep seeing people having problems with these - and particularly Universal releases (like The Munsters set). I wish they'd stick to DVD-9's.
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08-31-05, 10:35 AM
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It's not a rumour. Where is it "going around"? It was posted at dvddrive-in.com. His review copy breaks up on The Black Cat.
Is this really a surprise though? I had trouble with Orgasmo. People have reported problems with the other Legacy Collections, Abbott & Costello, Casino, Munsters, and some other Universal DVD-18's. It's a crap shoot to get a working DVD-18 from Universal. Just make sure you get it from a place that is fairly close by, with a good return policy for possibly multiple exchanges.
Is this really a surprise though? I had trouble with Orgasmo. People have reported problems with the other Legacy Collections, Abbott & Costello, Casino, Munsters, and some other Universal DVD-18's. It's a crap shoot to get a working DVD-18 from Universal. Just make sure you get it from a place that is fairly close by, with a good return policy for possibly multiple exchanges.
08-31-05, 10:35 AM
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Won't surprise me. I have had bad luck with DVD-18s. I had to exchange the Frankenstein set twice to get one that didn't freeze up and I also had trouble with Orgazmo and Abbott and Costello Vol 2. No matter how many times I exchange Columbo I can't get a set that works on my Sony players correctly. I just wish Universal would raise the prices and switch to single sided discs.
DVD-18s suck. They have always had the highest error rate of any type of DVD and always will. Just stop freaking making them.
DVD-18s suck. They have always had the highest error rate of any type of DVD and always will. Just stop freaking making them.
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08-31-05, 10:36 AM
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08-31-05, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by STEVEIGNORANT
It's not a rumour. Where is it "going around"? It was posted at dvddrive-in.com. His review copy breaks up on The Black Cat.
Is this really a surprise though? I had trouble with Orgasmo. People have reported problems with the other Legacy Collections, Abbott & Costello, Casino, Munsters, and some other Universal DVD-18's. It's a crap shoot to get a working DVD-18 from Universal. Just make sure you get it from a place that is fairly close by, with a good return policy for possibly multiple exchanges.
Is this really a surprise though? I had trouble with Orgasmo. People have reported problems with the other Legacy Collections, Abbott & Costello, Casino, Munsters, and some other Universal DVD-18's. It's a crap shoot to get a working DVD-18 from Universal. Just make sure you get it from a place that is fairly close by, with a good return policy for possibly multiple exchanges.
08-31-05, 11:51 AM
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Yeah, it's The Raven. However, the same arguments apply. It is always someplace that has the problem. What makes these even worse is that you have to go through every movie again if you are exchanging copies to ensure proper playback on all films. Rarely is the problem in the same place on these sets.
08-31-05, 12:31 PM
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I know that lots of people were complaining about Universal's "The Munsters" discs.
That's why I'm going for the r2 of that release here in the UK. I would guess that, like our version of "Wonder Woman", it will be on DVD-9's. DVD-18's are rare here.
It's bad news, as more and more studios seem to be using DVD-18's in r1; I guess it saves them costs somewhere, though you'd have thought that the extra manufacture problems would even things up...
It's a shame though, as Universal have a poor record of releases in r2; we didn't even get the horror Legacy sets. Just a scattering of odd picks.
And yep, apologies for confusing this, the review has been corrected to show they had trouble with "THe Raven".
That's why I'm going for the r2 of that release here in the UK. I would guess that, like our version of "Wonder Woman", it will be on DVD-9's. DVD-18's are rare here.
It's bad news, as more and more studios seem to be using DVD-18's in r1; I guess it saves them costs somewhere, though you'd have thought that the extra manufacture problems would even things up...
It's a shame though, as Universal have a poor record of releases in r2; we didn't even get the horror Legacy sets. Just a scattering of odd picks.
And yep, apologies for confusing this, the review has been corrected to show they had trouble with "THe Raven".
08-31-05, 01:55 PM
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Coming from someone who has had problems with Buck Rogers and Orgasmo, I completely agree with all the opinions here concerning how horrible DVD-18s are, particularly any produced by Universal.
While I have all the Legacy sets, I haven't had time to watch them. Are the errors found on the Legacy sets confined to the initial batch (Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman), the second batch (Mummy, Invisible Man, etc.) or both?
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While I have all the Legacy sets, I haven't had time to watch them. Are the errors found on the Legacy sets confined to the initial batch (Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman), the second batch (Mummy, Invisible Man, etc.) or both?
Thanks.
08-31-05, 04:47 PM
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I've had problems with the first 3 Legacy collections (Son of Dracula, House of Frankenstein, Werewolf of London); oddly, the second 3 Legacy sets play fine.
That's a sure sign of a Quality Control deficit.
That's a sure sign of a Quality Control deficit.
08-31-05, 05:16 PM
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Are the second batch DVD-18's? I've only got the Creature set so far, and those are single sided jobs...three films.
What players are people using?
What useless people Universal are. I sent in a query about this issue, and just because I indicated from the dropdown that I am located in the UK, they just mailbotted me "please direct your query to (a UK address)". A postal address, no less, not even an email one! Shows how up to date they are here, no wonder we have a hopeless release schedule from these people.
They completely ignored what I asked, I specifically queried what people IN THE UK could do if they had a problem R1 disc that a fix wa sissued for...
It's depressing to note that the recent Hammer Collection is DVD-18 based, and worse still so is the forthcoming Kolchak:The Night Stalker boxset (two 18's and a 9, in fact).
What players are people using?
What useless people Universal are. I sent in a query about this issue, and just because I indicated from the dropdown that I am located in the UK, they just mailbotted me "please direct your query to (a UK address)". A postal address, no less, not even an email one! Shows how up to date they are here, no wonder we have a hopeless release schedule from these people.
They completely ignored what I asked, I specifically queried what people IN THE UK could do if they had a problem R1 disc that a fix wa sissued for...
It's depressing to note that the recent Hammer Collection is DVD-18 based, and worse still so is the forthcoming Kolchak:The Night Stalker boxset (two 18's and a 9, in fact).
09-01-05, 11:13 AM
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Well, AFAIK, Universal never re-issued any of the previous discs people had problems with.
Unless it turns out that there's a provable error on this one, rather than it being an issue with some players, or the occasional dodgy disc I wouldn't expect them to do anything about this either!
Unless it turns out that there's a provable error on this one, rather than it being an issue with some players, or the occasional dodgy disc I wouldn't expect them to do anything about this either!
09-01-05, 12:25 PM
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All of my previous Universal sets have worked fine, either I'm lucky or it's mainly a player issue. We'll see if the good fortune continues with the Lugosi and Hammer sets coming out...
09-02-05, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by renaldow
All of my previous Universal sets have worked fine, either I'm lucky or it's mainly a player issue. We'll see if the good fortune continues with the Lugosi and Hammer sets coming out...
09-03-05, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebiroth
Hoho! Joy! Just read the first post from someone whose Hammer Collection freezes up - in "Evil of Frankenstein"
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09-03-05, 07:02 PM
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I have the first three monster Legacy but haven't watched them entirely. Are Son of Dracula, House of Frankenstein, Werewolf of London the only ones that have problems or does it reach to all of them? I haven't gotten around to watching those films yet, but the other films on the sets seem to work.
09-03-05, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nebiroth
what player are you using, and how new is it?
09-04-05, 04:58 AM
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Thanks.
Kinda blows the idea that "if you have an older players that's the trouble" out of the water then.
IMHO, Toshibas have a bit of a rep for being a tad on the fussy side.
I've seen a few discs advertised with a little note at the bottom saying "Toshiba owners may have difficulty playing this disc".
Kinda blows the idea that "if you have an older players that's the trouble" out of the water then.
IMHO, Toshibas have a bit of a rep for being a tad on the fussy side.
I've seen a few discs advertised with a little note at the bottom saying "Toshiba owners may have difficulty playing this disc".
09-04-05, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebiroth
Kinda blows the idea that "if you have an older players that's the trouble" out of the water then.
IMHO, Toshibas have a bit of a rep for being a tad on the fussy side.
I've seen a few discs advertised with a little note at the bottom saying "Toshiba owners may have difficulty playing this disc".
IMHO, Toshibas have a bit of a rep for being a tad on the fussy side.
I've seen a few discs advertised with a little note at the bottom saying "Toshiba owners may have difficulty playing this disc".
09-06-05, 05:53 PM
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I just got the Lugosi Collection and I can confirm the flaw in The Raven at about 30 minutes into the movie. I have a Sony DVP-NS725P that automatically re-reads the disk if there is a problem with the data. During the re-read, the picture freezes. For the last half hour of The Raven, the picture freezes every few seconds. It is totally unwatchable.
