How I had pictured as one of the last scene in episode 3 (SPOILERS)
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How I had pictured as one of the last scene in episode 3 (SPOILERS)
Hey folks, I am not George Lucas but it was just some random thoughts of what I pictured along with what I would have liked:
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
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I thought it was a good ending, too, although I had envisioned Darth Vadar actually seeing the funeral procession whether through holograms or in person somehow rather than the emperor simply telling him.
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Originally Posted by Terrell
Too complicated I say. I think Episode III ended as perfect as possible, except for the "NOOOOOOOOOO!" scream from Vader.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike
My kneejerk reaction to that was negative as well, but then I thought about it. Our ingrained opinion of Darth Vader is of this evil, intelligent, cold, incredibly powerful villain, hence the nooooooooooo would be out of character. But Vader in that scene is merely a freshly rebuilt crispy Anakin in a new black suit. He's young and emotional, and now deeply hurt when told he killed the woman he loved. And it echoed the other famous noooooooooooo, when he tells Luke the truth in the airshaft in ESB.
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I think the ending is fine as-is,although i would have liked to see him use the part you mentioned about Vader killing Jar-Jar.But I guess that would have made him come off as more of a hero than the villain he is supposed to be.
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The only thing lamer than Jar-Jar is people who are still clamoring for him to be killed. The movie was 6 years ago, let it go. He had 30 seconds of screen time in ROTS, I think you've won.
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Originally Posted by Ruderic
Hey folks, I am not George Lucas but it was just some random thoughts of what I pictured along with what I would have liked:
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
Looks like unnecessary filler. A scene w/ Qui-gon would have been nice, but not needed. Maybe before the ending. I can see the last one. That would have been cool.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike
And it echoed the other famous noooooooooooo, when he tells Luke the truth in the airshaft in ESB.
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While I think that you've created too much plot at a time when things needed to be wrapped up quickly, you have some good ideas here. And the Luke/Dagobah thing has been bugging me too.
The movie-editor in my head would make a couple of small tweaks that wouldn't really radically impact the running time:
A brief shot of Vader watching the funeral procession (alone, from a distance) would have been touching, actually. I never thought of that.
I think there needed to be a brief scene w/baby Luke on Dagobah, so the line in ESB makes more sense. (I can't believe Lucas didn't pick up on that and run with it...)
I think Obi-Wan needs to walk into the desert at the end, not ride one of those big farting anteaters.
The movie-editor in my head would make a couple of small tweaks that wouldn't really radically impact the running time:
A brief shot of Vader watching the funeral procession (alone, from a distance) would have been touching, actually. I never thought of that.
I think there needed to be a brief scene w/baby Luke on Dagobah, so the line in ESB makes more sense. (I can't believe Lucas didn't pick up on that and run with it...)
I think Obi-Wan needs to walk into the desert at the end, not ride one of those big farting anteaters.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike
My kneejerk reaction to that was negative as well, but then I thought about it. Our ingrained opinion of Darth Vader is of this evil, intelligent, cold, incredibly powerful villain, hence the nooooooooooo would be out of character. But Vader in that scene is merely a freshly rebuilt crispy Anakin in a new black suit. He's young and emotional, and now deeply hurt when told he killed the woman he loved. And it echoed the other famous noooooooooooo, when he tells Luke the truth in the airshaft in ESB.
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That's exactly how I thought about it too. He realized that his deal with the devil just bit him in the ass.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike
My kneejerk reaction to that was negative as well, but then I thought about it. Our ingrained opinion of Darth Vader is of this evil, intelligent, cold, incredibly powerful villain, hence the nooooooooooo would be out of character. But Vader in that scene is merely a freshly rebuilt crispy Anakin in a new black suit. He's young and emotional, and now deeply hurt when told he killed the woman he loved. And it echoed the other famous noooooooooooo, when he tells Luke the truth in the airshaft in ESB.
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Originally Posted by AGuyNamedMike
My kneejerk reaction to that was negative as well, but then I thought about it. Our ingrained opinion of Darth Vader is of this evil, intelligent, cold, incredibly powerful villain, hence the nooooooooooo would be out of character. But Vader in that scene is merely a freshly rebuilt crispy Anakin in a new black suit. He's young and emotional, and now deeply hurt when told he killed the woman he loved. And it echoed the other famous noooooooooooo, when he tells Luke the truth in the airshaft in ESB.
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I think Obi-Wan needs to walk into the desert at the end, not ride one of those big farting anteaters.
Ok, done ranting. Sorry for the thread hijack - but I couldn't stop laughing.
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Originally Posted by Ruderic
Hey folks, I am not George Lucas but it was just some random thoughts of what I pictured along with what I would have liked:
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
Scene takes place on Alderaan after the blockade ship arrives.
Obi Wan Kenobi and Yoda are receiving instructions from the ghost of Qui Gon on where to take the kids and where to hide.
A group from Naboo (including Jar Jar) arrives on Alderaan to take Padme's body back.
Darth Vader arrives to see if Padme is really dead. There are a couple of surviving Jedi there who try and get in Vader's way to give Yoda and Obi Won a chance to escape but Vader slices them down. He also slices down Jar Jar (causing theaters to erupt in cheers). When he Padme's dead body and turns around and walks away.
Meanwhile Kenobi escapes and takes Luke and Yoda in a ship. He leaves Yoda in Dagobah so Luke is there momentarily (that is why it is familiar to him in EP V). Obi goes on to Tatooine to deliver Luke.
Your thoughts?
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Makes you wonder why he stayed loyal to him.
After going in the Suit he couldn't overthrew him alone b/c he was a shadow of his former power and one blast of force lighting would do him in.
Thus he bides his time until he finds out about Luke and begins scheming to turn him and kill the emperor together.
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When Luke felt something familiar about Dagobah, we could say that he was feeling Yoda's familar presence. Jedi can sense each other, right?
Yoda's aura was comfy to him and for the first time since he was a baby, he felt it.
Yoda's aura was comfy to him and for the first time since he was a baby, he felt it.
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Originally Posted by bboisvert
While I think that you've created too much plot at a time when things needed to be wrapped up quickly, you have some good ideas here. And the Luke/Dagobah thing has been bugging me too.
I think there needed to be a brief scene w/baby Luke on Dagobah, so the line in ESB makes more sense. (I can't believe Lucas didn't pick up on that and run with it...)
I think there needed to be a brief scene w/baby Luke on Dagobah, so the line in ESB makes more sense. (I can't believe Lucas didn't pick up on that and run with it...)
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How was James Earl Jones supposed do his NOOOOOOO with more emotion? Thing thing is going through a voice synthesizer.
I agree though that it might have been interesting to have Vader watching Padme's funeral either live or on remote. It might also reinforce the belief that she died before childbirth since she still looks very very round during her funeral. The only reason I could see why that would be emphasized (because supposedly no one on Naboo knew she was pregnant, right) would be for that very sort of trickery.
I agree though that it might have been interesting to have Vader watching Padme's funeral either live or on remote. It might also reinforce the belief that she died before childbirth since she still looks very very round during her funeral. The only reason I could see why that would be emphasized (because supposedly no one on Naboo knew she was pregnant, right) would be for that very sort of trickery.