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Cameron
05-20-05, 10:41 PM
The Muppets Wizard of Oz will arrive on dvd on 08.09.05

You can watch trailers, clips, tv spots, dvd clips and look at pictures at...

Official Muppets Wizard of Oz Webpage (http://muppets.go.com/main.html?dl=oz)

Bonus features include

OZ OOPS- More Hilarious antics from the Muppets as footage of outtakes and bloopers, scenes that never made it into the movie and equipment failures are all front and center.

Pepe's Exclusive making of-An exclusive, VIP backstage look at the making of the movie with the "star" of the film, Pepe the King Prawn.

Extended Interview with Quentin Tarantino- Hear more of Pepe's One on Prawn interview with Quentin Tarantino.

Also available that day will be the cd soundtrack.


also an interview

Q&A with The Muppets’ Wizard of Oz
Director Kirk Thatcher and Producer Martin Baker
Q. What are some of your most memorable moments from the set of The Muppets’
Wizard of Oz production?
Kirk: I don’t have just one memorable moment; I have a series of them:
1. When we finished our first musical number, it was called “When I’m With You.” We
shot it for a day and a half – and were all excited because it had the fun, sweet feeling of
the old Muppet show, a cute song done by the Muppets with a terrific singer in an
enchanted forest type set. We all had a feeling that we were doing something very
classically Muppets.
2. The day we shot with Quentin Tarantino was very memorable. He came in a day
earlier and sat and watched – he had a blast. He had tons of energy. I typically like to
ask the actors to take it to the next level, have fun with it, until it seems “too much”, but
with Quentin he was “up” for four hours, he had tons of energy and enthusiasm.
3. Jeffrey Tambor was a treat also. We let him improvise and I never yelled “cut.” He’s
such an accomplished actor that we let him just ad-lib and it always ended with us having
to cut because the crew couldn’t hold their laughs any longer.
4. David Alan Grier also adlibbed and was so great and funny! He’s a complete
professional, charming, always bringing something new to the scene. He’s someone I
would love to work with again.
Q. Martin, you have long history with the Muppets going back to Jim Henson days. How
was the production of Oz different from the previous Muppets films?
Martin: The significant difference is that we were producing our first major project
under the stewardship of our new owners, The Walt Disney Company. It was a terrific
experience and I look forward to the new and exciting opportunities I believe will be
open to expand and grow the Muppets.
Q. Are there plans for future collaborations between Disney and Henson?
Martin: Yes, in fact, this was the first of what we believe will be many joint projects
between Henson and Disney. Henson is working with us on another television special
currently before ABC, and they are also consulting with us as we begin to figure out how
to handle the increase in demand of the Muppet characters under Disney. The Muppet
Holding Company greatly respects and appreciates the talents of the core repertory
Muppet performers and, as the performance needs of the Muppets begin to expand across
all areas, we are working with Brian Henson and The Jim Henson Company to explore
options, including recruiting new talent, to prevent over-stretching this exceptional group
of performers.
Q. The last time you worked with the Muppets was when you directed It’s a Very Merry
Muppet Christmas Movie. What was it like working with the Muppets again?
Kirk: I love working with the Muppets! It’s like working with a great ensemble acting
or comedy group. Jim Henson was a bit like Orson Welles when he created the Mercury
Theater players, in that Jim created a great ensemble cast of performers that you could do
all sorts of different productions with. It’s like working with a family – very
collaborative and supportive, playful and joyful. It’s a great environment for artists to
work within. All the actors that have ever worked with the Muppets have come away
saying, “this was the most fun we’ve ever had.” It’s the same for directors!
Q. What would you say were some of the more challenging issues in directing The
Muppets’ Wizard of Oz?
Kirk: Creating the Land of Oz on a TV movie budget and schedule! It was tight, but the
Art Department created some marvelous sets. It was also challenging doing some of the
elements from the original story – when the characters meet the Wizard, they go
individually and the Wizard is a different incarnation for each of them, playing on each
character’s fears. For the Lion, he appears as a beast. For the Scarecrow, it’s fire. For
the Tin Thing, he appears as a beautiful woman, and for Dorothy he looks like big goblin
head. The Henson HDPS system (which allows you to control a computer-generated
character in real time) really helped us expedite production, given our tight schedule in
creating all these various creatures on an epic scale. This Wizard Chamber sequence was
the focus of our efforts for “wowing” the audience with a big effects scene that also
launches the second half of the film.
Our special visual effects were done by Technicolor/Toybox from Canada and they were
superb in capturing and rendering the various fantasy creatures and environments. I am
really impressed with the work they did. The Production Designer (Michael Bolton)
from It’s a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie worked with us again and he and his
crew really outdid themselves. We were blessed with an amazing crew all around. They
worked very hard and every penny shows on the screen.
As for the schedule, we shot the film in just 30 days. That’s rather a short amount of time
for something on the scale of the Wizard of Oz, particularly with three musical numbers
and most of the scenes featuring groups of Muppets and people. To put it in perspective
it’s about the same amount of time it took to shoot Lost in Translation. A wonderful
film, but shot on real locations, with no special effects and two leads, neither of which
were puppets!
We realized at the beginning that we really had to be focused and know what we wanted
to do and how we were going to do it, without much room for mistakes or
experimentation – in the end I think we all enjoyed the challenge and the final product.
It’s a great sense of accomplishment to know you can pull off such an epic style film
under such tight constraints.
Q. Were there any on-the-set dramas?
Kirk: There was no time for “serious” drama – the real on-the-set drama was to get the
movie completed in time! There was actually more on-set humor than drama. The
pressure evoked many slip-ups. We captured lots of bloopers and silliness on the set and
those will be included on the DVD.
For example, one time Gonzo’s legs were put on backwards and we didn’t know it – the
crew accused Gonzo of being drunk. Another time, Miss Piggy had a long bit of
dialogue, and she forgot her last two lines so she turned her head away from the camera
and just started saying, “blah, blah, blah, blah!” hoping we could just cut around it or
replace the dialogue later…(it actually ended up being kept in the movie).
Q. What were some of your favorite moments on the set of this production?
Martin: It was as I always hope for on any Muppet production in that there is a
wonderful spirit on set. We have always liked to work hard and at the same time allow it
to be fun.
Q. What was it like premiering the movie at the Tribeca Film Festival?
Kirk: Oh, my gosh – it was great! We had the red carpet, the photographers, and Robert
DeNiro!!! It was everything you want your movie premiere to be! Most exciting to me
was hearing a theater full of 950 people and their honest reactions to the movie. The
good news was they laughed a lot. They were even laughing at things that I forgot were
funny! It was good for everyone and really put a wonderful finish on a project that took
over a year and a half of work to achieve.

kingtopher
05-21-05, 11:16 AM
I've got to say that I wouldn't recommend this as a blind buy to anyone but the most hardcore Muppets completist. I've literally enjoyed every single Muppets thing I've seen before, and even think something like Muppets In Space is a great movie, and absolutely love the Muppets, but this movie was just plain bad. I'd been looking forward to it for a while but was really disappointed last night. There was way too much Ashanti in it and not nearly enough Muppets. So much of the movie focused on her that the Muppets were just sort of supporting characters. I don't watch a Muppets movie for the human actors, I watch it for the Muppets, and when they get demoted to secondary characters, that's a problem.

atari2600
05-21-05, 12:59 PM
will it be widescreen? i know a few muppet movies in the past that have been released ONLY in fullscreen, which is stupid. why not release both? if you are going to favor one, why pick the worse one? i still havent bought those muppet movies (i think christmas carol and treasure island) even though i like them because of no widescreen.

atari2600
05-21-05, 01:00 PM
kingtopher: good post but you should at least buy it for their outtakes - muppet outtakes are freaking great!

pdinosaur
05-21-05, 03:08 PM
will it be widescreen? i know a few muppet movies in the past that have been released ONLY in fullscreen, which is stupid. why not release both? if you are going to favor one, why pick the worse one? i still havent bought those muppet movies (i think christmas carol and treasure island) even though i like them because of no widescreen.


given this was a tv movie, it could be any aspect ratio. unless someone with a WS tv watched this and saw ti in WS, i'd say its quite possible you'll get a FS dvd, if nothing else because it may be the only option out there.

that said, wtf was with skeeter's appearance? what happened to honoring the dead?

randyba
05-22-05, 12:20 AM
I recorded this off the HD channel, Sorry to say it was not in wide screen.

Cameron
05-22-05, 01:49 AM
I recorded this off the HD channel, Sorry to say it was not in wide screen.

thats kind of an odd choice in this day and age...but whatever...I enjoyed the movie, but If you look at my collecton you can tell I', biased when it comes to the muppets...

Doc Moonlight
05-22-05, 10:43 AM
I recorded this off the HD channel, Sorry to say it was not in wide screen.

I watched it in HD, too and was dissappointed it was not in widescreen. Given that it will released by Disney, I'm not hopeful that we'll get a widescreen DVD.

When IT'S A VERY MERRY MUPPET CHRISTMAS ws shown on NBC HD, the broadcast was in widescreen, but the MGM R1 DVD was in fullscreen. I wound up ordering the R2 version from Amazon.uk which was widescreen. So it's possible that a widescreen version will be released somewhere in the world, but then again, it's coming from Disney who equatres "full-screen" with "family friendly".

BTW, I agree with the comments about there being too much Ashanti (not that she wasn't good) and too little muppets. But then again, how can you do The Wizard of Oz and not have Dorothy as the central character.

kingtopher
05-22-05, 11:25 AM
thats kind of an odd choice in this day and age...but whatever...I enjoyed the movie, but If you look at my collecton you can tell I', biased when it comes to the muppets...

I am too, which made me all the more surprised when I saw what a worthless flick this was.

scott shelton
05-22-05, 03:49 PM
I am too, which made me all the more surprised when I saw what a worthless flick this was.


You can blame Brian and Disney for their unwillingness to put out a balls-to-the-wall Muppet flick. They've killed the franchise by playing it easy.

But come on! Pepe playing with Gonzo's nipples? That's worth a purchase ALONE to see again.

bboisvert
05-22-05, 07:24 PM
Count me in the camp of those who own/love just about everything Muppets... and won't be buying this piece of crap. Without a doubt the worst Muppet movie ever.

{Not a threadcrap... just more of a warning to those who missed it on Sunday and are considering a blind buy. DEFINITELY rent first. You've been warned. ;) }

Cameron
05-22-05, 11:04 PM
by no means was if my favorite, but they did add some adult humor, and language....

These guys are right about Ashanti being in the forefront of the movie....but its nice to see the muppets on screen again

kingtopher
05-22-05, 11:42 PM
But come on! Pepe playing with Gonzo's nipples? That's worth a purchase ALONE to see again.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "worth a purchase" but I must admit, I laughed out loud.

mndtrp
05-23-05, 01:07 AM
I found it fairly amusing. I recorded it, so I'll watch it again before making my decision to buy it. Yes, there was too much Ashanti. While she is pretty good looking, she didn't gel well with the muppets.

But, any new muppets is better than no new muppets. Hopefully this will kick start a real movie. Muppets From Space is one of my favorite movies to watch when bored.

bboisvert
05-23-05, 01:40 AM
Hopefully this will kick start a real movie.

Disney plans to increase Muppet merchanising over the next year or two to gain public exposure and release a new theatrical movie in 2007.

Again, I would normally view this as FANTASTIC news, except I'm now no longer confident in the direction they are taking this. I expect the '07 film to be filled with pop-culture references, fart jokes, and other "adult humor" annoyances in a vain desparate attempt to make the Muppets "relevant". A joke about reality TV every 5 minutes at a minimum. I hope I'm wrong...

Kerflufle1
05-23-05, 08:08 PM
On a happier note, the muppets.com site also advertises preorders for the "Muppet Show first season, Special edition dvd" for $39.99. An important piece for my collection.

Cameron
07-17-05, 02:13 AM
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005JO4H.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

this no widescreen thing is bumming me out

atari2600
07-17-05, 02:35 AM
is there a reason so many muppet movies arent WS? why do the people in charge of the muppets not get it? who hired those idiots?

Walter Neff
07-18-05, 02:52 PM
I am too, which made me all the more surprised when I saw what a worthless flick this was.

Why do you always come here? I guess we'll never know. It's like some kind of torture to have to watch the show.

Chew
07-18-05, 03:19 PM
is there a reason so many muppet movies arent WS? why do the people in charge of the muppets not get it? who hired those idiots?

I'll give them a minor pass on this one: it was a TV movie and not shot for HD. It's understandable why it isn't WS (even though everything should be).

Chew
07-18-05, 03:20 PM
Why do you always come here? I guess we'll never know. It's like some kind of torture to have to watch the show.

:lol::up:

kingtopher
07-18-05, 04:22 PM
Why do you always come here? I guess we'll never know. It's like some kind of torture to have to watch the show.

What are you talking about? I'm a DVD fan, so I come to this site. I'm a Muppets fan so I watched the movie and was disappointed. Since I was a disappointed Muppets fan, I tried to warn people who might be considering a blind buy that it might not be worthwhile for them. There's no need to be an asshole. Why do you come here, Walter?

bboisvert
07-18-05, 04:58 PM
Wow, kingtopher... either you didn't get the joke, or you're WAY too sensitive. I thought it was pretty funny.

Cameron
07-19-05, 12:43 AM
I'll give them a minor pass on this one: it was a TV movie and not shot for HD. It's understandable why it isn't WS (even though everything should be).

but it was broadcast in HD WS was it not...thats what i remember hearing...anyone see it in WS HD...possibly recorded it to compare screenshots

Chew
07-19-05, 07:06 AM
but it was broadcast in HD WS was it not...thats what i remember hearing...anyone see it in WS HD...possibly recorded it to compare screenshots

I watched it on the HD channel and it wasn't broadcast in HD. Thinking the affiliate just screwed up and didn't "flip the switch", I checked on a few websites and they all agreed it wasn't shown in HD. :shrug:

bboisvert
07-19-05, 09:58 AM
but it was broadcast in HD WS was it not...thats what i remember hearing...anyone see it in WS HD...possibly recorded it to compare screenshots

As Chew says, it wasn't broadcast in widescreen. It makes no sense to me either, but this was apparently shot and broadcast 4:3.

Cameron
07-19-05, 11:22 AM
thats strange...but at least that makes this OAR.

Cameron
07-20-05, 03:09 AM
from davis

The Muppets' Wizard of Oz

Buena Vista Home Entertainment is looking for fans to help choose a TV commercial for the upcoming The Muppets' Wizard of Oz DVD due on August 9th. Participants will have a chance to win a free copy of the DVD! Head on over (http://www.hypemakers.net/muppets-oz/) now to take the survey.

the link is closed at the time i am posting this...i wonder if this means we don't get all the tv show bumpers? anyhow..hopefully a dvd talker will win a free copy

Dead
07-20-05, 08:27 AM
Why do you always come here? I guess we'll never know. It's like some kind of torture to have to watch the show.

I'm going to assume that you meant this as a joke. Still, I hope you realize how your comment might appear to someone who doesn't "get" that it comes from the Muppet Show.


... There's no need to be an asshole. Why do you come here, Walter?

kingtopher, if you have a problem with a post, please report it to the moderators. Personal attacks are against forum rules.

Walter Neff
07-20-05, 02:46 PM
I'm going to assume that you meant this as a joke. Still, I hope you realize how your comment might appear to someone who doesn't "get" that it comes from the Muppet Show.

I assumed that, in a thread about "The Muppet Show," everyone would get a joke that references the theme song that played at the beginning of every episode of "The Muppet Show."

I was wrong.

Patrick Mirza
07-20-05, 06:23 PM
I got an email from the advertising agency that Buena Vista closed down the TV spot site a few hours after they put it up. They asked me to remove the post with the link until further notice, so there you go.

kingtopher
07-21-05, 09:23 PM
Wow, kingtopher... either you didn't get the joke, or you're WAY too sensitive. I thought it was pretty funny.

Count me in as not getting the joke... still. Ah well, occasionally one has to soar way over your head, right? :)

edit: Sorry guys, it's been years since I've seen the Muppet Show, despite my love for the movies and my love for the show (in distant memories of course). I apologize, Walter.

Walter Neff
07-21-05, 10:24 PM
I apologize, Walter.

No worries at all.

Cameron
08-01-05, 11:24 AM
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/m-p/mwoomenu1.jpg http://www.ultimatedisney.com/images/m-p/mwoomenu2.jpg

kingtopher
08-01-05, 11:08 PM
Is something not loading for me, or did you make a blank post, Cameron?

Cameron
08-02-05, 12:01 AM
sorry...here are the menu shots

http://tinypic.com/9suv6x.jpg http://tinypic.com/9suwk3.jpg

Cameron
08-07-05, 02:28 AM
best buy has the WOZ disc for 15.99 and the muppet show for 29.99. If you buy both you get 10 bucks off....there is also a 5 dollar mail in rebate for this...thats .99 cent muppet wizard of oz plus a stamp

kingtopher
08-07-05, 12:06 PM
best buy has the WOZ disc for 15.99 and the muppet show for 29.99. If you buy both you get 10 bucks off....there is also a 5 dollar mail in rebate for this...thats .99 cent muppet wizard of oz plus a stamp

Perhaps at that price it would be worth it. ;)

speedy1961
08-07-05, 02:48 PM
Cameron, where is the rebate form for the MWOZ dvd? Is it on / in the DVD itself?

Cameron
08-07-05, 02:53 PM
that is what has been claimed over in the bargains thread. It is inside the dvd case for one/both.

kingtopher gets a balcony seat....

badger1997
08-08-05, 12:39 AM
I'll give them a minor pass on this one: it was a TV movie and not shot for HD. It's understandable why it isn't WS (even though everything should be).I guess this still mystifies me. Sorry for going off-topic, but can somebody explain to me what the problem with some things being shown in full-screen is? I don't mean the merits of wide-screen and OAR, because I fully understand that, but why is it so wrong is the creator of a series wants to film in full-screen format to do it that way then? We seem to be so high on artistic integrity and directors' vision, so why should they have to change? Why must "everything" be in widescreen?

Cameron
08-08-05, 12:48 AM
i don't think everything should be in widescreen...i think most people were under the impression this was broadcast WS in HD (however it was not) so there was some debate on what the OAR was.

Cameron
08-12-05, 08:43 PM
i have heard that Kermit's line of

What the Hell is that

has been cut from the dvd

anybody?

This saddens me...not because i need to hear Kermit swear, but one of the things Disney said they were going to do was bring some adult humor back into the mix...i thought they achieved a bit of that with this movie (though still not the best by far). It's hard to believe in a day and age of Shrek that Disney would do that. Now i know dreamworks and Disney are different things, but I think Shrek showed that parents weren't all up in arms over mild profanity. I also think it would be different coming from mickey or donald...but this isn't Disney, its henson.

just my rant, sure you guys have some things to say on the matter.

kingtopher
08-12-05, 09:25 PM
Can anyone comment on the extra twenty minutes that were added back in?

wrdrobeguy
08-13-05, 06:08 PM
Can anyone comment on the extra twenty minutes that were added back in?

Count me in the camp that knows this movie is not good, it's simply devoid of heart, but danged if I didn't laugh a lot while watching it. Pepe. Gonzo. Piggy. Johnny Fiama and Sal. Funny stuff.

I watched the DVD the other night and the new 20 minutes of stuff don't add up to much except a handful of funny jokes, and a few extended scenes. None of which add much to the overall story, but the extended version of the film is much more fluid than the broadcast TV version.

kingtopher
08-13-05, 09:31 PM
Count me in the camp that knows this movie is not good, it's simply devoid of heart, but danged if I didn't laugh a lot while watching it. Pepe. Gonzo. Piggy. Johnny Fiama and Sal. Funny stuff.

I watched the DVD the other night and the new 20 minutes of stuff don't add up to much except a handful of funny jokes, and a few extended scenes. None of which add much to the overall story, but the extended version of the film is much more fluid than the broadcast TV version.

That's good to know. I'm pretty sure I have a free copy of this heading to me in the mail, so I'll probably unwrap it and give it another watching regardless of my dislike for the flick. After all, it still is the Muppets, and if there's twenty minutes extra that adds in more time with the Muppets (the lack of which is my biggest complaint about the flick) then it will be worth it I suppose.

Cameron
08-14-05, 12:05 AM
so everyone laughed at the movie (but no one likes it) Huh...

I hope you enjoy it this time Kingtopher. I didn't expect everyone to love this movie. But i still think Disney did a good thing by reintroducing the muppets in a television movie. They kept the budget low, and gave everyone a chance to see it for free on broadcast television. I hope Disney puts these charachters back into the hearts of a new generation.

Its nice to see them in something other than a pizza hut commercial.

anyone report on if the line i mentioned in my previous post has been cut...can anyone compare their DVR copy.

kingtopher
08-14-05, 07:52 AM
so everyone laughed at the movie (but no one likes it) Huh...


Its hard to explain. There were funny parts, but at its core the movie had no heart at all. It was just a big, empty, shallow mess that featured far too little of the Muppets and far too much Ashanti (who is a terrible actress with no screen presence at all). I'm hoping the extra twenty minutes helps, but we'll see.

kurupt
08-14-05, 01:58 PM
I completely agree with you kingtopher. How did someone involved in the production not notice that the lead actress was completely awful? I'm talking high school produciton of Wizard of Oz awful. Ashanti's pitifully acted reactions to the Muppet hijinx would have been laughable if it were just a commercial or something, but in a project with so much potential, it's just sad. I know she sells a lot of records and all, but can't the Disney brass recognize that in the long run, putting a rotten no-talent actress at the forefront of a Muppet movie will just cheapen the franchise and they'll have fewer viewers in the long run. This coming from someone who really enjoyed It's A Very Muppet Christmas. On a positive note, there were some very funny moments that made the purchase worth it to me. Oh yeah, what was up with the Frank Oz cheap shot?

StrTrkker
08-14-05, 10:13 PM
So seeing how Muppet Wizard of Oz is actually a TV-Movie...

How many TV Muppet Movies have been made and are they available on DVD?

Also...whats the titles on the theatrical movies?

Thanks Guys...

Cameron
10-23-07, 04:58 PM
hey folks, anybody have a broadcast version of this with the missing line intact?

baracine
10-24-07, 01:26 PM
I actually watched this on TV after a co-worker (who knew how much I hated Tarantino but loved The Wizard of Oz) deviously recommended it as being "a suprisingly good film". Not only did I consider it an utter waste of time (no talent was harmed during the making of this film) and a totally heartless and cynical exercice in recycling a known theme just for the sake of recycling, but the Tarantino cameo is actually painful to watch and possibly the low point (or the high point, depending of one's point of view) of his entire career.

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Remember what Quincy Jones said about orchestrating the score to The Wiz? "It was like polishing sh*t." Well, this film didn't even make it to the bathroom... Which brings on another joke:

- What's this film like?
- Depends(c).

http://pmcaregivers.com/images/depends5.jpg


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