Saw uncut with 8 extra seconds,yes 8 seconds!
#1
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Thread Starter
Saw uncut with 8 extra seconds,yes 8 seconds!
It appears both the R rated U.S version and uncut U.K version are being released in the U.K next month.
The BBFC has the running times listed in PAL speed and it turns out,only a measely 8 seconds seperates the two versions!
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classi...3?OpenDocument
So I assume the supposed 100 minute running time of the R rated version is incorrect? Since the BBFC list the uncut version in NTSC as 102 minutes 12 seconds. So if 8 seconds is the only difference between the two. The U.S version should run 102 minutes 4 seconds.
But I can see where the confusion between how much was cut came from. In this case,I would just get the R rated version when released since the cuts are very small.
Though it does seem to be a huge waste for studios to make two versions of films when the differences are so small. They should use seemless branching in those cases. Since you can bet your ass,once Lions Gate releases it uncut in the U.S(if they do). Many will cry 'rip-off' since the difference may be hardly noticeable expect for those watching closely.
The BBFC has the running times listed in PAL speed and it turns out,only a measely 8 seconds seperates the two versions!
http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classi...3?OpenDocument
So I assume the supposed 100 minute running time of the R rated version is incorrect? Since the BBFC list the uncut version in NTSC as 102 minutes 12 seconds. So if 8 seconds is the only difference between the two. The U.S version should run 102 minutes 4 seconds.
But I can see where the confusion between how much was cut came from. In this case,I would just get the R rated version when released since the cuts are very small.
Though it does seem to be a huge waste for studios to make two versions of films when the differences are so small. They should use seemless branching in those cases. Since you can bet your ass,once Lions Gate releases it uncut in the U.S(if they do). Many will cry 'rip-off' since the difference may be hardly noticeable expect for those watching closely.
#6
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Originally Posted by sdk
I did not read the article, but have you correct due to pal speed up..
#11
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
Saw Uncut With Extra 8 Seconds
That makes for a weird double-feature.
#12
Moderator
now as I understand it, the Region 1 disc will be the theatrical R-rated cut while the Region 2 UK edition will be the unrated complete cut, right (?), so unless you have the ability to view other region DVD's this is pretty much a null topic.
#13
Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: norway
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by FinkPish
You know, it actually helps to read the article, so you know what you are talking about. PAL speed up wouldn't be a factor here because it isn't comparing NTSC to PAL versions. Plus, the difference in PAL to NTSC would be a lot more than just 8 seconds.
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 842
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It isnt just cuts made to change the film, the sound was changed, the picture was changed to darken and lighten it to stop it being as disturbing and some was reframed too or blured, apparently
guess we will see when someone does a dvd comparison.
guess we will see when someone does a dvd comparison.
#17
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
Originally Posted by Romerojpg
It isn't just cuts made to change the film, the sound was changed...
Damn, that was so (unintentionally) funny!!!
Half the people in the theatre (including myself) were laughing there asses off, while the other half was pissed off at us.
I'm always courteous during a movie, but I lost it during that.
Laughed so hard I started crying!
Good stuff!
#20
Needs to contact an admin about multiple accounts
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tucson, AZ.
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
But 8 seconds were cut just to get an R? Pretty ridiculous.
I wonder if that means they've shortened or dubbed over Cary Elwes' hilarious moaning scene.
That scene was pretty funny. I think it would have been alot better if they let Elwes have his British accent instead of an American one.
--Ian
#21
DVD Talk Special Edition
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Ian_H
Look at Robocop. The "R" version is only a few seconds shorter than the uncut. They were able to pack alot of gore in those few seconds.
--Ian
--Ian
#23
DVD Talk Special Edition
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,391
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's not that great, but perhaps worth a buy. The acting is bad to mediocre, and I always wanted to get back to the bathroom scenes (the core of the film). Danny Glover's role seems so superfluous and useless.
I expected this to be a lot gorier, though. Maybe those 8 seconds will help
I expected this to be a lot gorier, though. Maybe those 8 seconds will help
#24
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Bay Area, CA
Posts: 5,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I love the film and will buy it cut in R1. Ive seen the uncut 8 seconds and its just more of the foot cutting off and Amanda going through the guys stomach and pulling out the key. thats about it as far as I have seen video of.
#25
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Thread Starter
This was in the imdb.coms trivia section..
The MPAA originally rated the film NC-17, due to the film's tone which director James Wan had to remove some content to secure an R rating.
Shots cut in the R-rated version, according to director James Wan and screen-writer/actor Leigh Whannell, included ones of Amanda sifting through the intestines, the fat guy struggle through the barb wire just to shorten the scene, and some forensic ones. The color was made more even and the sound was altered because the MPAA had problems with the tone of the original cut shown in Sundance.
If is this correct,then the tampering with the picture is more severe than 8 seconds of cuts. In that case,they better release the uncut version immediately..and I am going to not bother with the upcoming dvd.
Scream is a good example. Minor cuts that don't make a huge difference,but the unaltered soundmix creates a completely different experiance. Which is missing from the altered R rated mix which is surpressed abit to be 'less itense'.
The MPAA originally rated the film NC-17, due to the film's tone which director James Wan had to remove some content to secure an R rating.
Shots cut in the R-rated version, according to director James Wan and screen-writer/actor Leigh Whannell, included ones of Amanda sifting through the intestines, the fat guy struggle through the barb wire just to shorten the scene, and some forensic ones. The color was made more even and the sound was altered because the MPAA had problems with the tone of the original cut shown in Sundance.
If is this correct,then the tampering with the picture is more severe than 8 seconds of cuts. In that case,they better release the uncut version immediately..and I am going to not bother with the upcoming dvd.
Scream is a good example. Minor cuts that don't make a huge difference,but the unaltered soundmix creates a completely different experiance. Which is missing from the altered R rated mix which is surpressed abit to be 'less itense'.