FOX Admits It Needs To Lay Off The Reality Crap
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FOX Admits It Needs To Lay Off The Reality Crap
Fox Says It Needs to Lay Off on Reality
So I have an idea for a new reality show: "Who Wants To Be A Fox Network Chief Executive?" Honestly, I think FOX execs are constantly stoned because they always seem to have a delayed reaction to the bloody obvious.
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
LOS ANGELES - The sagging Fox network's chief executive admitted Monday it had leaned too heavily on reality programming this TV season, including the disastrous "Who's Your Daddy?"
Fox has been caught on the wrong side of audience taste in the past few months. Scripted series like ABC's Golden Globe-winning "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost" are hot, while viewers seem to have little patience for new reality series.
There were others, but Fox's problems were symbolized by "Who's Your Daddy?," the Jan. 3 show where an adopted daughter picked her birth father out of eight strangers and won a $100,000 prize.
Adoption advocates were appalled; the public didn't seem to care. Only 6.3 million people watched, according to Nielsen Media Research. Five other "Who's Your Daddy" episodes already filmed will be shelved, Fox entertainment president Gail Berman said Monday.
At its best, Fox is a mix of scripted and unscripted, high-brow and low-brow. "The Simpsons" can comfortably co-exist with "COPS," she said.
"In the case of this fall we drifted to too much on the unscripted side," Berman said. "But I think the audience expects loud things from Fox. Sometimes they work ... and sometimes they don't."
Fox is averaging 5.9 million viewers in prime-time this season, down from 6.5 million at this point last year, Nielsen said. More importantly for the youth-obsessed Fox, it is solidly in fourth place among viewers aged 18-to-49. It finished last season second behind NBC in this demographic.
So worried is Fox about audience trends that Berman was lowering expectations for its most popular show, "American Idol," which debuts this week. She said she expected ratings to decline in its fourth season.
Fox loudly proclaimed an all-season strategy last year, promising to debut new series all year round, including summer. Viewers rejected that, too, but Berman isn't giving up.
"There's no question that the audience, in our mind, is ready, willing and able to accept new programming in the summer," she said.
Fox will tweak the strategy this year, debuting some new shows in May instead of June, she said.
One new series will be the animated "American Dad," which is given a sneak peek after the Super Bowl. It's from "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane, who is also making new episodes of that cartoon after the cancelled series became an unexpected hit on DVD. Both new shows launch May 1.
Fox also announced that "That '70s Show" has been renewed for an eighth season, even though series stars Topher Grace (news) and Ashton Kutcher aren't returning. Both stars will make occasional guest appearances, Berman said.
LOS ANGELES - The sagging Fox network's chief executive admitted Monday it had leaned too heavily on reality programming this TV season, including the disastrous "Who's Your Daddy?"
Fox has been caught on the wrong side of audience taste in the past few months. Scripted series like ABC's Golden Globe-winning "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost" are hot, while viewers seem to have little patience for new reality series.
There were others, but Fox's problems were symbolized by "Who's Your Daddy?," the Jan. 3 show where an adopted daughter picked her birth father out of eight strangers and won a $100,000 prize.
Adoption advocates were appalled; the public didn't seem to care. Only 6.3 million people watched, according to Nielsen Media Research. Five other "Who's Your Daddy" episodes already filmed will be shelved, Fox entertainment president Gail Berman said Monday.
At its best, Fox is a mix of scripted and unscripted, high-brow and low-brow. "The Simpsons" can comfortably co-exist with "COPS," she said.
"In the case of this fall we drifted to too much on the unscripted side," Berman said. "But I think the audience expects loud things from Fox. Sometimes they work ... and sometimes they don't."
Fox is averaging 5.9 million viewers in prime-time this season, down from 6.5 million at this point last year, Nielsen said. More importantly for the youth-obsessed Fox, it is solidly in fourth place among viewers aged 18-to-49. It finished last season second behind NBC in this demographic.
So worried is Fox about audience trends that Berman was lowering expectations for its most popular show, "American Idol," which debuts this week. She said she expected ratings to decline in its fourth season.
Fox loudly proclaimed an all-season strategy last year, promising to debut new series all year round, including summer. Viewers rejected that, too, but Berman isn't giving up.
"There's no question that the audience, in our mind, is ready, willing and able to accept new programming in the summer," she said.
Fox will tweak the strategy this year, debuting some new shows in May instead of June, she said.
One new series will be the animated "American Dad," which is given a sneak peek after the Super Bowl. It's from "Family Guy" creator Seth MacFarlane, who is also making new episodes of that cartoon after the cancelled series became an unexpected hit on DVD. Both new shows launch May 1.
Fox also announced that "That '70s Show" has been renewed for an eighth season, even though series stars Topher Grace (news) and Ashton Kutcher aren't returning. Both stars will make occasional guest appearances, Berman said.
So I have an idea for a new reality show: "Who Wants To Be A Fox Network Chief Executive?" Honestly, I think FOX execs are constantly stoned because they always seem to have a delayed reaction to the bloody obvious.
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Well knowing is half the battle, now all they have to do is bring on shows with good writing and acting.
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Originally Posted by big whoppa
Quality of the writing in That 70's Show is declining. Sad but true.
But the 70's Show has run it's course and is fairly played at this point.
One can only hope that success of shows like Lost and Desperate Housewives will help bring about the demise of most awful 'reality' type shows.
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We admitted we were powerless over reality television - that our programs had become unmanageable...
... the first step toward change is admitting that you have a problem.
(Now if I could just quit watching Celebrity Fit Club on VH1... I'd be okay.)
... the first step toward change is admitting that you have a problem.
(Now if I could just quit watching Celebrity Fit Club on VH1... I'd be okay.)
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I don't think it's reality shows that's bad for Fox. The reason Fox is doing poorly with reality shows is that they are making BAD reality shows. I think it's pretty obvious how shows like 'Who's Your Daddy' will do poorly in the rating even before they aired it. So why even bother making BAD reality shows like those?
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It was only a matter of time (just like the Primetime game show craze a few years back) before people got tired of this crap. What scares me is that so many people are still into it. I barely have enough time to watch good scripted shows.
How about this for a new Reality program.TV executives who kill TV Executives?
How about this for a new Reality program.TV executives who kill TV Executives?
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Everybody that I know doesn't watch the reality shows. I don't even watch much TV because of the "reality" of the shows. The "Entertainment" industry doesn't have any creativity in writing anymore...
Thankfully, The Family Guy will be back on....
Thankfully, The Family Guy will be back on....
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Originally Posted by Timber
Yeah, because it's just sooo hard not to watch it.
The crap takes up the spot of a potentially fantastic TV show, that's the reason so many are happy about this I do believe. The more reality shows that are started up and are around, the more likely it is that shows like Arrested Development and Family Guy will be canceled.
It's one thing just to let it be and to just not watch it, but that doesn't change the fact that the trash is taking up air space of shows that could be so much better, and more worthy of being there.
It's great if people actually like the stuff, and I know that there are a ton of those people, but personally I've never been caught up in the reality TV craze. I've hated it with a passion since The Real World. I can't even get myself to fall into it all.
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
The crap takes up the spot of a potentially fantastic TV show, that's the reason so many are happy about this I do believe. The more reality shows that are started up and are around, the more likely it is that shows like Arrested Development and Family Guy will be canceled.
It's one thing just to let it be and to just not watch it, but that doesn't change the fact that the trash is taking up air space of shows that could be so much better, and more worthy of being there.
It's great if people actually like the stuff, and I know that there are a ton of those people, but personally I've never been caught up in the reality TV craze. I've hated it with a passion since The Real World. I can't even get myself to fall into it all.
It's one thing just to let it be and to just not watch it, but that doesn't change the fact that the trash is taking up air space of shows that could be so much better, and more worthy of being there.
It's great if people actually like the stuff, and I know that there are a ton of those people, but personally I've never been caught up in the reality TV craze. I've hated it with a passion since The Real World. I can't even get myself to fall into it all.
Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Reality TV, but I don't blame it for good shows being cancelled. They might make it a little tougher, since reality shows are cheaper to produce, and thus can garner lower ratings and survive, but I don't think it keeps great shows from being made.
I think it takes the place of other crap. Good shows usually make it on the air, even if they don't last (Damn Wonderfalls)
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Originally Posted by UAIOE
About damn time FOX.
Now they need to learn to not cancel GOOD shows.
Now they need to learn to not cancel GOOD shows.
WonderFalls
Tru Calling
Firefly
John Doe
Greg the Bunny
Undeclared
Cracking Up
Andy Ricther Controls the Universe
They'd be wise to own up to their itchy cancellation instincts and revive any of these shows a la Family Guy IMO. They'd almost have a full schedule of decent shows!
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Originally Posted by TheKing
I don't buy that.
There is nothing to buy here. These "reality" shows got a huge following all of a sudden, those in charge decided to milk it dry over the years, and quite a few great shows suffered because of that.
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Originally Posted by BrentLumkin
These "reality" shows got a huge following all of a sudden, those in charge decided to milk it dry over the years, and quite a few great shows suffered because of that.
Last edited by rfduncan; 01-19-05 at 10:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
Exactly...
WonderFalls
Tru Calling
Firefly
John Doe
Greg the Bunny
Undeclared
Cracking Up
Andy Ricther Controls the Universe
They'd be wise to own up to their itchy cancellation instincts and revive any of these shows a la Family Guy IMO. They'd almost have a full schedule of decent shows!
WonderFalls
Tru Calling
Firefly
John Doe
Greg the Bunny
Undeclared
Cracking Up
Andy Ricther Controls the Universe
They'd be wise to own up to their itchy cancellation instincts and revive any of these shows a la Family Guy IMO. They'd almost have a full schedule of decent shows!
You forgot
Keen Eddie
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Originally Posted by rfduncan
Well - as TheKing mentions, COST is a major factor here. Making a reality show costs a fraction of producing a series (considering
Besides, perhaps if more chances were taken on better programs, more money could be made long term. The "reality" deal is a fine money-maker right now, but it's not going to last. All of these years that have been spent on milking a fad dry could have been used to help cement other shows, which would have a better chance for long term success.
I'm just glad it looks like it could be the end to "reality" TV, I really am.