Rest in peace VHS
#1
DVD Talk Special Edition
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Hollywood
Posts: 1,022
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rest in peace VHS
Life-changing video format gets last rites
Mon 22 November, 2004 13:59
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - It changed the lifestyles of a generation but after a lingering death, the last rites have been sounded for the revolutionary VHS home video format.
All over the world, Video Home System -- which let people record and watch television programmes when they wanted rather than at the whim of broadcasters -- is in headlong retreat as the Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) takes over.
Accepting the inevitable, Britain's biggest high street electronics retailer Dixons announced over the weekend that it was taking VHS video players off its shelves for good.
"We are now entering the digital age and the new DVD technology available represents a step-change in picture quality and convenience," said marketing director John Mewett.
Dixons is not alone. Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, offers only a handful of stand-alone VHS recorders on its website.
"VHS was pretty revolutionary," VHS player collector Andy Hain told Reuters on Monday. "The fact that people take them for granted so much today shows just how important they were."
For more than 25 years, VHS dominated the world home entertainment market after seeing off a challenge from Sony's Betamax in the early 1980s.
By the 1990s, a VHS recorder was a common feature in most homes as prices fell and technology improved -- although the art of actually programming a recorder remained a mystery to many.
To add insult to injury, police grudgingly admit that in Britain at least, house burglars don't even bother to take VHS players because new ones now cost so little that no one wants a second-hand model.
FILM INDUSTRY BENEFITS
When DVDs first came along in the mid-1990s, sales were initially very slow but now sales of DVD players outstrip those of VHS players by a factor of 40 to one globally. Leading high street film rental company Blockbuster reports that over 80 percent of its rentals are DVDs.
Far from undermining the film industry, DVD sales can make the difference between loss and profit.
Internationally the market for DVDs -- currently estimated at some $15 billion (8 billion pounds) a year -- is expanding exponentially and the industry expects that some 450 million households will have a DVD player by 2008.
But the explosion of DVD technology has brought with it a surge in piracy -- discs may be offer better-quality viewing but they are far more quickly copied than tapes and easier to carry.
The demise of VHS vindicates the foresight of Andy Hain who has been collecting VHS players for the past 11 years and has set up his own museum of video recorders.
He admits on his website, though, that the museum is rather small. "This is partly because VHS decks are a little dull," he reflects.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...9§ion=news
Mon 22 November, 2004 13:59
By Jeremy Lovell
LONDON (Reuters) - It changed the lifestyles of a generation but after a lingering death, the last rites have been sounded for the revolutionary VHS home video format.
All over the world, Video Home System -- which let people record and watch television programmes when they wanted rather than at the whim of broadcasters -- is in headlong retreat as the Digital Versatile Disc (DVD) takes over.
Accepting the inevitable, Britain's biggest high street electronics retailer Dixons announced over the weekend that it was taking VHS video players off its shelves for good.
"We are now entering the digital age and the new DVD technology available represents a step-change in picture quality and convenience," said marketing director John Mewett.
Dixons is not alone. Wal-Mart, the world's largest retailer, offers only a handful of stand-alone VHS recorders on its website.
"VHS was pretty revolutionary," VHS player collector Andy Hain told Reuters on Monday. "The fact that people take them for granted so much today shows just how important they were."
For more than 25 years, VHS dominated the world home entertainment market after seeing off a challenge from Sony's Betamax in the early 1980s.
By the 1990s, a VHS recorder was a common feature in most homes as prices fell and technology improved -- although the art of actually programming a recorder remained a mystery to many.
To add insult to injury, police grudgingly admit that in Britain at least, house burglars don't even bother to take VHS players because new ones now cost so little that no one wants a second-hand model.
FILM INDUSTRY BENEFITS
When DVDs first came along in the mid-1990s, sales were initially very slow but now sales of DVD players outstrip those of VHS players by a factor of 40 to one globally. Leading high street film rental company Blockbuster reports that over 80 percent of its rentals are DVDs.
Far from undermining the film industry, DVD sales can make the difference between loss and profit.
Internationally the market for DVDs -- currently estimated at some $15 billion (8 billion pounds) a year -- is expanding exponentially and the industry expects that some 450 million households will have a DVD player by 2008.
But the explosion of DVD technology has brought with it a surge in piracy -- discs may be offer better-quality viewing but they are far more quickly copied than tapes and easier to carry.
The demise of VHS vindicates the foresight of Andy Hain who has been collecting VHS players for the past 11 years and has set up his own museum of video recorders.
He admits on his website, though, that the museum is rather small. "This is partly because VHS decks are a little dull," he reflects.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle...9§ion=news
#2
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
#3
DVD Talk Special Edition
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Archives, Indiana
Posts: 1,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Green Jello
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
#5
I really don't see the big deal either way. If VHS needs to stay around for the tehnologically challenged, who cares? As long as it's not taking up shelf space for our DVDs and DVD related electronics, I say there is room in this world for both. Hell, there are still people I know who ask me where they can get a record player. Old formats may fade away, but they should never totally die out.
#7
DVD Talk Legend
Originally posted by nightmaster
As long as that continues J6P doesn't HAVE to put away his VCR and figure out the new recording mediums, and he's still happy to rent tapes....UGH!
As long as that continues J6P doesn't HAVE to put away his VCR and figure out the new recording mediums, and he's still happy to rent tapes....UGH!
#8
DVD Talk Hero
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Hail to the Redskins!
Posts: 25,295
Likes: 0
Received 49 Likes
on
38 Posts
Originally posted by Green Jello
Exactly. Also, Dixons dumping all VHS in the UK doesn't mean anything. It's not a big deal until places like Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Circuit City dump them.
Exactly. Also, Dixons dumping all VHS in the UK doesn't mean anything. It's not a big deal until places like Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Circuit City dump them.
#9
DVD Talk Special Edition
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Archives, Indiana
Posts: 1,758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by calhoun07
I really don't see the big deal either way. If VHS needs to stay around for the tehnologically challenged, who cares? As long as it's not taking up shelf space for our DVDs and DVD related electronics, I say there is room in this world for both.
I really don't see the big deal either way. If VHS needs to stay around for the tehnologically challenged, who cares? As long as it's not taking up shelf space for our DVDs and DVD related electronics, I say there is room in this world for both.
Last edited by nightmaster; 11-22-04 at 04:48 PM.
#10
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by DVD Josh
Best Buy and Circuit City already have. Walmart won't until it's deader than dead, they'll sell them until you can't buy VCRs anymore.
Best Buy and Circuit City already have. Walmart won't until it's deader than dead, they'll sell them until you can't buy VCRs anymore.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category
and so does Circuit:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categ...6+20012880&c=1
I'm a buyer for a major A/V retail chain. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
Last edited by Green Jello; 11-22-04 at 04:55 PM.
#11
Senior Member
Originally posted by Green Jello
Where do you get that? Best Buy still sells VHS VCRs.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category
and so does Circuit:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categ...6+20012880&c=1
I'm a buyer for a major A/V retail chain. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
Where do you get that? Best Buy still sells VHS VCRs.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....&type=category
and so does Circuit:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/categ...6+20012880&c=1
I'm a buyer for a major A/V retail chain. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
#14
DVD Talk Legend
Originally posted by philo
I'll continue to fire up my trusty VCR until all of my most wanted films are available and uncut on DVD.
I'll continue to fire up my trusty VCR until all of my most wanted films are available and uncut on DVD.
I have more than 500 movies on VHS that have yet to appear on DVD, many of which may never show up. And that's not counting another several hundred movies taped commercial free (and often OAR) from TCM, AMC (when they were still a decent channel), etc. that have never been available.
#15
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Beverly, MA
Posts: 5,506
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by Green Jello
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
I love when idiots think DVDs are a COMPLETE replacement for VHS. VHS sales have been dead for some time, but the thing that is finally pushing the format under are sales of the new recording formats like DVR and DVD-Rs.
I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs.
#16
huh?
#18
Member
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: norway
Posts: 218
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by sracer
Why Ugh?! Why do you care if J6P still rents and buys VHS? Personally, I wish J6P would go BACK to VHS and leave DVD alone. Ever since DVD players dropped below the $100-$150 mark, there has been a dramatic decrease in the condition of rental discs. Discs are more scuffed, scratched, and smudged than ever before. Not a big deal for rentals, but when rental places have sales on those discs, it is virtually impossible to get a disc in good condition anymore.
Why Ugh?! Why do you care if J6P still rents and buys VHS? Personally, I wish J6P would go BACK to VHS and leave DVD alone. Ever since DVD players dropped below the $100-$150 mark, there has been a dramatic decrease in the condition of rental discs. Discs are more scuffed, scratched, and smudged than ever before. Not a big deal for rentals, but when rental places have sales on those discs, it is virtually impossible to get a disc in good condition anymore.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 499
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by ianholm
I still need the VCR for that porn that never seemed to make it's way onto DVD.
I still need the VCR for that porn that never seemed to make it's way onto DVD.
#20
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by huh?
I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs.
I idiots that think that DVR and DVD-R weren't made popular by the increased demand for DVDs.
#22
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 543
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Linear, Non-digital, easily degradable media is a dinosaur. I for one have been donating VHS tapes replaced by DVD to the library, and even they are reluctant to take them.
I look forward to the day when I bring my 2 VCRs to the library as a donation, along with my last replaced VHS tape
the ONLY VHS tape I still watch from time to time is Robin Hood: Men in Tights (R1) becasue there is currenlty no R1 DVD release of the title - aisde from that, I havent watched any VHS tapes since the year 2001
DIE Magnetic tape, DIE
I look forward to the day when I bring my 2 VCRs to the library as a donation, along with my last replaced VHS tape
the ONLY VHS tape I still watch from time to time is Robin Hood: Men in Tights (R1) becasue there is currenlty no R1 DVD release of the title - aisde from that, I havent watched any VHS tapes since the year 2001
DIE Magnetic tape, DIE
#24
Banned
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Reno, NV
Posts: 2,893
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by mr_jbloggs
Anyone know where that VCR Museum is? I'd like to plan a visit with the kids one day.
Anyone know where that VCR Museum is? I'd like to plan a visit with the kids one day.
http://www.totalrewind.org/
#25
Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
vc/r wont be tottaly obsolute yet. pre-corded video tapes can stopped being produced.while recordable videotape still can be offered.
however,with that being said,there is still a fair share of movies on videotapes(pre-recorded) that still need to in the digital domain yet. I have yet to see cry-babyand the chase(1994) two films that I am awaiting to take the pludge.
granted v.c.r has given consumer the abilty to watch alot,and record stuff,so I give credit where credit is due.so thank vhs and vc.r.
now we have reached the time with compact disc,laserdisc(remember those) video cd's cd-rom,that it would one day make room for newer technolgy. while there will be always newer electronics out there,the upcoming blU RAY. I think it is safe to say,that the majority of homes have at least a dvd player.some tivo,others a dvd recorder or and/or both.
I dont think we will see magnetic tape die off just yet,give or take a few years and it will go the way side of vinyl records and audio tapes.
I love my dvd recorder and dvd player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
however,with that being said,there is still a fair share of movies on videotapes(pre-recorded) that still need to in the digital domain yet. I have yet to see cry-babyand the chase(1994) two films that I am awaiting to take the pludge.
granted v.c.r has given consumer the abilty to watch alot,and record stuff,so I give credit where credit is due.so thank vhs and vc.r.
now we have reached the time with compact disc,laserdisc(remember those) video cd's cd-rom,that it would one day make room for newer technolgy. while there will be always newer electronics out there,the upcoming blU RAY. I think it is safe to say,that the majority of homes have at least a dvd player.some tivo,others a dvd recorder or and/or both.
I dont think we will see magnetic tape die off just yet,give or take a few years and it will go the way side of vinyl records and audio tapes.
I love my dvd recorder and dvd player!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!