"Colossus:The Forbin Project" IS full frame!
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"Colossus:The Forbin Project" IS full frame!
I can't believe Universal has released this great film pan & scan. It is particularly horrendous seeing how it's a 2:35:1 ratio film!!!
Looks like Universal's website is correct so Charley Varrick, Raggedy Man, Tank & Iceman (another 2:35:1 film) will all be full frame.
You can go to Universal's website and send an e-mail complaining about this travesty, just click on contact us and follow along: http://homevideo.universalstudios.com
Looks like Universal's website is correct so Charley Varrick, Raggedy Man, Tank & Iceman (another 2:35:1 film) will all be full frame.
You can go to Universal's website and send an e-mail complaining about this travesty, just click on contact us and follow along: http://homevideo.universalstudios.com
Last edited by Jaymole; 11-17-04 at 04:38 PM.
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Bah! I was hoping against hope that it would end up being OAR. Oh well, I have my widescreen laserdisc and will continue to watch that.
Universal, you have lost a sale. Nice move.
Universal, you have lost a sale. Nice move.
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Originally posted by skipnet
What do you expect Colossus to but full frame, it was NOT a theatrical release, it WAS an ABC Movie of the Week. So it is OAR.
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What do you expect Colossus to but full frame, it was NOT a theatrical release, it WAS an ABC Movie of the Week. So it is OAR.
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Skip... move to Earth, it's nice here.
Well, it's MOSTLY nice, except that Universal Home Video has been putting out full-frame releases of movies that should ONLY be released in widescreen. Despicable.
Well, it's MOSTLY nice, except that Universal Home Video has been putting out full-frame releases of movies that should ONLY be released in widescreen. Despicable.
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That's very disappointing; I voiced my concern with Universal, but they looked to have ignored me (no surprise there...)
I'm more disappointed with Charley Varrick, but I suppose that will be open matte rather than p&s?
I'm more disappointed with Charley Varrick, but I suppose that will be open matte rather than p&s?
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Originally posted by skipnet
What do you expect Colossus to but full frame, it was NOT a theatrical release, it WAS an ABC Movie of the Week. So it is OAR.
Skip
What do you expect Colossus to but full frame, it was NOT a theatrical release, it WAS an ABC Movie of the Week. So it is OAR.
Skip
Technical Specifications for
Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
Laboratory
Technicolor, USA
Film negative format (mm/video inches)
35 mm
Cinematographic process
Panavision (anamorphic)
Printed film format
35 mm
Aspect ratio
2.35 : 1
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Originally posted by John Hodson
That's very disappointing; I voiced my concern with Universal, but they looked to have ignored me (no surprise there...)
I'm more disappointed with Charley Varrick, but I suppose that will be open matte rather than p&s?
That's very disappointing; I voiced my concern with Universal, but they looked to have ignored me (no surprise there...)
I'm more disappointed with Charley Varrick, but I suppose that will be open matte rather than p&s?
However, the new vhs edition stated "home video version" over the older vhs tape, so some music cues or songs in the background might have been altered, not sure about the DVD release though.
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Originally posted by marty888
This movie premiered theatrically in April 1970.
Technical Specifications for
Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
Laboratory
Technicolor, USA
Film negative format (mm/video inches)
35 mm
Cinematographic process
Panavision (anamorphic)
Printed film format
35 mm
Aspect ratio
2.35 : 1
This movie premiered theatrically in April 1970.
Technical Specifications for
Colossus: The Forbin Project (1970)
Laboratory
Technicolor, USA
Film negative format (mm/video inches)
35 mm
Cinematographic process
Panavision (anamorphic)
Printed film format
35 mm
Aspect ratio
2.35 : 1
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I read this on dvdanswers.com, and was very disapointed. I was wanting Tank and Iceman in OAR... guess not Tank is only 1.85:1, but Iceman was 2.35:1, ouch.
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A travesty. It is truly stupid and pointless to release a movie that fans have been waiting for 20+ yrs in a butchered P&S form!
I just can't see how this is a good business decision on Universal's part. They are better off financially to have not even released the title at all than have 100,000+ unsold copies because of this assinine decision.
Same with ICEMAN, another film deserving of so much more. No sale from me and many of my aquaintances.
How many more years will we have to wait, Universal?
I just can't see how this is a good business decision on Universal's part. They are better off financially to have not even released the title at all than have 100,000+ unsold copies because of this assinine decision.
Same with ICEMAN, another film deserving of so much more. No sale from me and many of my aquaintances.
How many more years will we have to wait, Universal?
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Originally posted by zyzzle
A travesty. It is truly stupid and pointless to release a movie that fans have been waiting for 20+ yrs in a butchered P&S form!
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A travesty. It is truly stupid and pointless to release a movie that fans have been waiting for 20+ yrs in a butchered P&S form!
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Damn, I never have seen this movie, but I was going to buy it blind based on all I have read about it and actually was looking forward to seeing it. Thanks, Universal, for killing that hope.
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I have just eMailed Universal myself and below is what I sent. I know people are mad about this situation but please try to keep it civil and to the point so it actually get read.
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I have just heard confirmation that Universal is indeed releasing a Full Screen only DVD of Colossus: The Forbin Project. I am totally baffled as to why Universal would released a DVD that will be bought by film enthusiasts like myself but released it in a aspect ratio that I (and other enthuaists) will NEVER buy it in! I thought we had got past the days when studios released DVD's in the full screen only aspect ratio, appealing to those less informed as to the true butchering a film receives when released in FS. The viewing public has become much more aware of the benefits of the OAR (Original Apsect Ratio) and the comparative sale of dual FS and WS releases bare out the fact that WS DVD's are much more preferred. With more and more consumers buying 16x9 TV's it further proves the more prudent reason for WS releases of DVD's.
I have purchased hundreds of Universal DVD's (I have over 1200 overall) and am very pleased with the quality of the WS DVD's I have bought but I will tell you upfront that know matter how much I want a particular film I will NEVER purchase a Full Screen DVD from any studio (accepting of course a film's OAR is 1.33:1).
I would ask that Universal please consider the possibility of a second Wide Screen DVD release of Colossus: The Forbin project. This would not be without precedence as Warner had a similar situation a coupe of years ago with Willy Wonka and 4-5 months later relented by releasing a WS version that was very much appreciated by us film lovers.
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I have just heard confirmation that Universal is indeed releasing a Full Screen only DVD of Colossus: The Forbin Project. I am totally baffled as to why Universal would released a DVD that will be bought by film enthusiasts like myself but released it in a aspect ratio that I (and other enthuaists) will NEVER buy it in! I thought we had got past the days when studios released DVD's in the full screen only aspect ratio, appealing to those less informed as to the true butchering a film receives when released in FS. The viewing public has become much more aware of the benefits of the OAR (Original Apsect Ratio) and the comparative sale of dual FS and WS releases bare out the fact that WS DVD's are much more preferred. With more and more consumers buying 16x9 TV's it further proves the more prudent reason for WS releases of DVD's.
I have purchased hundreds of Universal DVD's (I have over 1200 overall) and am very pleased with the quality of the WS DVD's I have bought but I will tell you upfront that know matter how much I want a particular film I will NEVER purchase a Full Screen DVD from any studio (accepting of course a film's OAR is 1.33:1).
I would ask that Universal please consider the possibility of a second Wide Screen DVD release of Colossus: The Forbin project. This would not be without precedence as Warner had a similar situation a coupe of years ago with Willy Wonka and 4-5 months later relented by releasing a WS version that was very much appreciated by us film lovers.
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Originally posted by calhoun07
Anybody see a copy of this yet? Is it confirmed full screen? (yes, I am holding out hope to the end!)
Anybody see a copy of this yet? Is it confirmed full screen? (yes, I am holding out hope to the end!)
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I iwsh they would remake this movie. Just to see how the modern version would look. Don't get me wrong I love the old one, but I would be interested in how the computer as we know it today would be portrayed.