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10-22-04, 09:39 AM
Well, at Red Dog's prompting I started reading The Washington Post. Quite an interesting article, but one which won't probably allay the fears of those who worry that Kerry won't be sufficiently hardline wrt the Middle East.


<b><a href = "http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52688-2004Oct21.html">Kerry Exploring Cabinet Options</a></b>

By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 22, 2004; Page A23

If he wins the White House, John F. Kerry will immediately confront a difficult, divisive and deeply personal decision: which close friend will he have to stiff for secretary of state?

Kerry, who would name a national security team a few weeks after the election, is said by campaign sources to be under a fair amount of pressure to pick Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) or Richard Holbrooke to help repair global alliances and attract new allies to assist in Iraq. Both men are seasoned diplomats, ambitious and close friends and political advisers to Kerry. And both clearly want the job.

It was once assumed that Holbrooke, who was a U.N. ambassador under President Bill Clinton, was the front-runner. But campaign sources say Biden's stock soared after the ranking Democrat on the Foreign Relations Committee played a central role in helping to turn the campaign around last month with a sharper focus on problems in Iraq. Some say that Holbrooke could be sent to the Middle East as a special envoy as a possible consolation prize.

In the end, both men might be passed over for state, campaign sources say, because Kerry has told friends he wants to tap a Republican for one of the top national security posts, preferably defense or state. Those under consideration include Sens. Chuck Hagel (Neb.) and Richard G. Lugar (Ind.), as well as former senator Warren Rudman.

Further complicating matters, Kerry privately discussed the State Department post with New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) in the final days of the vice presidential search this summer, according to a Democrat familiar with that conversation. Richardson said he is not interested in any Cabinet job.

"The Kerry campaign staff should concentrate on winning the election before speculating on Cabinet positions," Richardson said.

This is only one of the major staffing decisions Kerry will face if he wins on Nov. 2. For a man who has never run anything larger than a district attorney's office, he would quickly name a national security team so it could hit the ground running in January. He would fill most other key Cabinet posts by Christmas Day, aides say.

A dark-horse candidate for defense, some said, is Richard L. Armitage, Bush's second in command at the State Department.

Jim Johnson, who ran the vice presidential search team for Kerry, former labor secretary Alexis M. Herman and David McKean, a longtime Kerry aide, are heading up the transition team, while a fundraiser from California is helping raise money for the search effort, aides said. McKean is studying past transitions and management paradigms to determine what would work best for Kerry.

All three transition figures could land a top job in a Kerry administration, despite concerns about the troubled 1992 Democratic transition -- when Warren M. Christopher, the head of that search team, was named secretary of state midway through the rocky process. But Kerry has a huge farm team from two Clinton administrations to choose from.

Johnson, who some Kerry associates said could be hurt by troubles at Fannie Mae, where he once served as chairman, is considered a front-runner for Treasury. Roger C. Altman, a top economic adviser to Kerry, is also in the mix. Former Treasury secretary Robert E. Rubin could probably have the job again if he wanted it, but many Democrats think he would head to the Federal Reserve to succeed Chairman Alan Greenspan.

Johnson is also in the hunt for White House chief of staff. John Sasso, who was recently put on the Kerry plane to restore order and discipline, is making a move for chief of staff, too, campaign sources say. His toughest competition could be Mary Beth Cahill, the campaign manager.

While Kerry has not told friends who would land where, he has made it clear he would want women, minorities and Republicans in top posts, aides say. Jeanne Shaheen, a former New Hampshire governor and early Kerry backer, would almost certainly land a domestic post, perhaps the Department of Health and Human Services, a source close to Kerry said. Herman is considered by some aides as another possibility for chief of staff. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.) is a possibility for homeland defense, as is Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine).

The list of minorities is longer. But Dennis Archer, former mayor of Detroit, and Deval L. Patrick, who are black, are considered in the running for attorney general. Jamie S. Gorelick, a member of the Sept. 11 commission, is also mentioned as a possible replacement for John D. Ashcroft.

Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, the chairman and co-chairman of the Sept. 11 commission, have been mentioned as possible replacements for Homeland Security Director Tom Ridge, as has former House member Timothy J. Roemer (D-Ind.).

Some candidates are taking themselves out of the running. Rep. Richard A. Gephardt (D-Mo.) has let it be known that he is not interested in heading the Labor Department. Others are lobbying hard for a job, including Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack (D), who could land at the Agriculture or Education Department, and Former Air Force Gen. Merrill McPeak, a likely pick for a top military post, campaign sources said.

10-22-04, 09:42 AM
so Richardson was Sec. of Energy, Ambassador to UN, Gov of NM and now possible Sec. of State, right? (i could be thinking of someone else here).

I would hope we would fill cabinet positions with people who know something about the departments or field as opposed to just political supporters. I think Energy and State are completely different areas and should have people who are experts in those areas

10-22-04, 10:05 AM
on the other side:


Staying or Going? Some Possibilities if Bush Wins

By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 22, 2004; Page A23

President Bush plans major changes in his Cabinet if he wins a second term -- perhaps nominating the first female defense secretary and first black attorney general -- but very little change among the small group of his closest advisers.

Public talk about the second-term lineup is verboten around the White House, since officials realize it would look presumptuous and even foolish with the race so close. But Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr. and senior adviser Karl Rove have a mental list of likely switches, according to colleagues, and people close to the White House are chattering about the possibilities.

If Secretary of State Colin L. Powell left, John C. Danforth might succeed him.

Many are speculating that Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld would depart if Bush defeated John F. Kerry, although perhaps after he remained a while longer in hopes of seeing improved conditions in Iraq. Rumsfeld's likely replacement? Condoleezza Rice, the president's national security adviser, who would be the first female Pentagon chief.

According to Republicans, the most logical successors to Rice would be Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul D. Wolfowitz, an architect of the Iraq war who might be chosen if Bush were feeling vindicated; I. Lewis Libby, chief of staff for Vice President Cheney; and Rice's current deputy, Steven J. Hadley.

Secretary of State Colin L. Powell, who has repeatedly been cut out of major decision making, surprised some Washington speculators this summer by suggesting he might stay on. One possible replacement would be former senator John C. Danforth (R-Mo.), who was a finalist to be Bush's running mate in 2000 and who is now the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations.

Friends say that Attorney General John D. Ashcroft realizes he would be unlikely to be asked to stay on. The president has hinted he would be interested in hiring Larry D. Thompson, Ashcroft's former deputy. Thompson would be the first African American to hold the job.

Card has talked about leaving almost from the time he took the job but would be likely to stay for a second term out of loyalty to the president -- perhaps in his current job or as Treasury secretary or Homeland Security secretary.

Other possibilities for Treasury secretary would be Stephen Friedman, the president's economic adviser, and California businessman Gerald L. Parsky. If Card were to change jobs, his replacement as chief of staff probably would be Joshua B. Bolten, policy director of Bush's 2000 campaign and now director of the White House Office of Management and Budget.

Bush-Cheney campaign chairman Marc Racicot, a former governor of Montana, would be a possible successor to Bolten. Commerce Secretary Donald L. Evans has decided whether to Texas. A possible successor might be Mercer Reynolds, the Cincinnati businessman who was a partner with Bush in the Texas Rangers and headed fundraising for the $250 million Bush-Cheney campaign.

There is little doubt that Karl Rove, White House senior adviser and the chief architect of Bush's reelection campaign, would remain in his job, provided his election strategy succeeds.

Communications director Dan Bartlett, another member of the White House's Texas mafia, is so close to the president that his influence does not depend on his title. Insiders say he could fill a variety of jobs, including his current one.

Mark B. McClellan, former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration and currently administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, would be likely to succeed Tommy G. Thompson as secretary of Health and Human Services, according to GOP sources.

His brother, White House press secretary Scott McClellan, was recently married, is liking his job more all the time and might stay. Eventually, he might return to Texas. Dan Senor, who was spokesman for the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq, is frequently mentioned as a successor.

Nicolle Devenish, the Bush-Cheney campaign communications director, also would be considered.

Campaign manager Ken Mehlman would be given a major job if he decided against going into the private sector. He could be in line to become chairman of the Republican National Committee.

General Zod
10-22-04, 10:26 AM

10-22-04, 10:28 AM

Although it would probably be better to get one of each, so he can please everyone.

10-22-04, 10:35 AM
Dammit Zod, if you show him a .gif like that he'll never make up his mind!

10-22-04, 11:19 AM
The possible cabinet changes for the Bush admin looks pretty interesting.

10-22-04, 12:55 PM
Kerry should get Michael Moore and Al Franken cabinet positions.

10-22-04, 01:41 PM
If Bush is re-elected, he should get rid of Ashcroft the minute the election is over. I still can't believe he put him in that post in the first place.

Myster X
10-22-04, 01:53 PM
I vote Whoopi Goldbug for press secretary and Sean Penn for US ambassabor to Iraq.

10-22-04, 03:16 PM
If Kerry wins, I seriously doubt you'll see a Republican as Sec of State. There's way too much damage to that dept. and a new face and approach would be needed to bring the State Dept. back from the depths it has shrunk to over the past 4 years. My guess is Biden.

Sec of Defense could and probably should be a Republican. They have the reputation of being strong on defense and Hagel and Lugar have actually been critical of the administration's planning of the post Iraq scenario. If they can work across party lines, both could be good candidates for Defense.

10-22-04, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by B.A.
If Bush is re-elected, he should get rid of Ashcroft the minute the election is over. I still can't believe he put him in that post in the first place. actually i think the cabinet resigns at the last cabinet meeting of the first term, so he'll be out sometime in december i think

10-22-04, 04:24 PM
what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create?

10-22-04, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by DaveNinja
what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create?

Particle board and duct tape :)

10-22-04, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by DaveNinja
what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create? A bunch of people left over from the Carter administration, specifically, anyone who worked under, and was influenced by, Cyrus Vance.

10-22-04, 06:27 PM
Bzzzz... the correct answer to "what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create?" is Cardboard and scotch tape...thats cardboard and scotch tape.

10-22-04, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by DaveNinja
Bzzzz... the correct answer to "what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create?" is Cardboard and scotch tape...thats cardboard and scotch tape.

Damn :mad: I was so close!

10-22-04, 07:16 PM
Republicans are being floated by Dems now in attempt to woo voters. Forget it, it won't happen.

Dennis Archer is a great guy.

10-22-04, 07:27 PM
Forget it, it won't happen.

Just like middle class tax cuts.

10-23-04, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by DaveNinja
what would be the worst possible cabinet Kerry could create?

keeping the current one

11-03-04, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Venusian
on the other side:


So, when will we begin to hear something substantive about changes for the second Dubya administration? December, after the final Cabinet meeting? Earlier?

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