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corycouger
10-16-04, 03:01 PM
The Associated Press

Robert De Niro was a no-show at his scheduled appearance to promote a film festival he founded. The American actor failed to appear with Rome authorities Friday, hours after he refused to accept an honor from the city of Milan, angering the mayor.

There was no explanation as to why he turned down the award Thursday, but the fury over his conduct apparently led him to cancel his appearance in Rome to promote an Italian showcase at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York.

"De Niro was embittered by yesterday's controversy and believed it opportune not to eclipse the important agreement with the province of Rome," Province President Enrico Gasbarra explained to reporters.

De Niro has been stung by accusations that his Mafia-thug roles have smeared the image of Italian-Americans.



The Order Sons of Italy in America wrote to the Italian government, urging it to cancel its plan to award the actor honorary citizenship.

The government has rejected that request, but has not said when it will confer the honor.


Do you think De Niro's roles exploit Italian Americans?

I don't

The person or persons they should be ashamed of is the family on Growing Up Gotti.

matome
10-16-04, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by corycouger

The person or persons they should be ashamed of is the family on Growing Up Gotti.

So true, Deniro is a friggin actor playing a part. Those idiots are real life gangsters basking in the "glory" of the mafioso.

Blade
10-16-04, 08:56 PM
Not that I necessarily agree with them, but I think that's their point. There wouldn't be any (or as much) "glory" of the mafia if it weren't for the Godfather movies.

flashburn
10-16-04, 10:16 PM
That is just rediculous to blame an actor for 'glorifying the mafia'. If it wasn't De Niro that did it, another actor would've.

Charlie Goose
10-17-04, 12:47 AM
When I saw the subject, I thought DeNiro was snubbing The Rapist.

I am also very angry with Sir Anthony Hopkins, because he glorifies the life of a cannibalistic serial killer.

GoldenJCJ
10-18-04, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Goose
When I saw the subject, I thought DeNiro was snubbing The Rapist.
yeah me too. I was getting ready to throw in a 'way to go Bob!'

Hiro11
10-18-04, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by corycouger
De Niro has been stung by accusations that his Mafia-thug roles have smeared the image of Italian-Americans.

Hmmm, let's examine some of his more famous roles:

Meet the Parents (2000) .... Jack Byrnes- mega-WASP ex-CIA guy/father

Analyze This (1999) .... Paul Vitti- stereotypical Italian mobster, but played for yucks, but I guess I'll give them this one.
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Ronin (1998) .... Sam- Non-ethnic spy/CIA guy.

Wag the Dog (1997) .... Conrad Brean- WASP CIA operative

Heat (1995) .... Neil McCauley- Irish bank robber

Casino (1995) .... Sam 'Ace' Rothstein- Jewish football handicapper/gambling ace.

Bronx Tale, A (1993) .... Lorenzo Anello- Italian/American bus driver, anti-mobster

Cape Fear (1991) .... Max Cady- Anglo psycho in a remake

Backdraft (1991) .... Donald 'Shadow' Rimgale- non-Italian, non-thug

Awakenings (1990) .... Leonard Lowe- non-Italian, non-thug

Goodfellas (1990) .... Jimmy Conway- Irish-American mobster

Midnight Run (1988) .... Jack Walsh- WASP bounty hunter.

Untouchables, The (1987) .... Al Capone- over the top depiction of a famous real-life Italian thug...I'll give them this one.

Brazil (1985) .... Archibald 'Harry' Tuttle- non-Italian hero/plumber

Once Upon a Time in America (1984) .... David 'Noodles' Aaronson- Jewish mobster

Raging Bull (1980) .... Jake La Motta- tragic Italian boxer, not a mobster and not a thug

Deer Hunter, The (1978) .... Michael Vronsky- Polish-American Vietnam vet

Taxi Driver (1976) (as Robert DeNiro) .... Travis Bickle- non-Italian Vietnam vet

Godfather: Part II, The (1974) .... Vito Corleone- more a man trying to protect his family than a "thug".

Mean Streets (1973) .... John 'Johnny Boy' Civello- more an honest loser caught up in a bad scheme than an Italian mobster

..he doesn't actually play stereotypical Italian mobsters any more than any other actor. Why does he have that stigma?

Blade
10-18-04, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by flashburn
That is just rediculous to blame an actor for 'glorifying the mafia'. If it wasn't De Niro that did it, another actor would've. But it wasn't another actor that did it. It was De Niro.

Ultimately, the Godfather movies (and movies like them) are not very sympathetic to the mafia. But much like Fight Club, the actual message of the movie is very easily lost in the aspects of the movie that show what is attractive about the lifestyle the movie depicts.

Personally, I think they ascribe more power to these films than they deserve, but that they helped mythologize the mafia is undeniable.

Charlie Goose
10-19-04, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Hiro11
Godfather: Part II, The (1974) .... Vito Corleone- more a man trying to protect his family than a "thug".
You made a good point, but let's be real about this particular one. The character of Vito Corleone was indeed a murdering gangster thug.

Cusm
10-19-04, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Blade
But it wasn't another actor that did it. It was De Niro.


Wouldn't Brando or Pacino, Pesci or hell even Cahn be more deserving of this than De Niro?

Blade
10-19-04, 03:46 PM
In my opinion? Brando and Pacino possibly. But they weren't showing up for the event this thread was sparked by. Also, De Niro seems more relevant to modern audiences than Brando, and more strongly associated with mafia/mob characters than either Brando or Pacino.

Pesci and Cahn, no Pesci's characters aren't usually very sympathetic or charismatic. Cahn? Who's that? ;) Doesn't have the name recognition of De Niro either as an actor or the mafia/mob roles he played.


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