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Old 09-09-04, 09:26 AM
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Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
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I think this film should be banned:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092115/
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butterfly effect, violent?? you should really see more violent stuff like kill bill 1, battle royale, anything by Tackashi Miike, and then butterfly effect, monster, monster's ball will seem like G rated fare.
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I think people trying to step on others' rights of free speech need to be banned.
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What do movies like these have to do with free speech? You have freedom of speech but you can't yell FIRE in a crowded room or slander others. What are they trying to say with movies like these "I have a sick mind"

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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

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Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
you could say the same thing about some threads/posts, though
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

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Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. ..... I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?

Not only that, some movies are made to make people laugh when we have serious issues facing us every day. And some movies are made to make us cry, which can be detrimental to people with emotional problems. And some movies were made to provoke thought, which I guess is dangerous if you think some types of movies should be banned.

No "redeeming value"? Since when are we turning to movies to be "redeemed"?
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

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Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?


I'm assuming you're a troll since the movies you mention have very little violence in them at all.

To answer your question, yes. Ban them all. Then we'll burn the books, invade Poland and round up the Jews.*







*Sarcastic answer before you start tryign ban/flame my lame ass.
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Glitter and Gigli should be banned for life.
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

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Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster,Butterfly Effect,Monster's Ball. I think these movie and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
My thoughts?

NO WAY IN HELL should ANY movie be banned, unless were are talking kiddie porn.

He IS a troll.
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No, it has nothing to do with Michael Moore.

You should read Fahrenheit 451. Don't watch the movie, because it sucks, but read the book...
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So now I'm a Troll cause you don't agree with me? I was just stating my thoughts hoping to get some serious discussion going.
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i think you are too uptight.......movies are entertainment, people's definition of that varies so what you might find offensive or not necessary may be entertaining to others
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Other than movies like Kiddie Porn- NO.

I did not even think those movies were bad. Since you own Kill Bill which is far more violent you have me confused as to the purpose of the thread.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...81#post5194881


First they take the violent movies you like and I did not speak up to save them. Then when they came to take my violent movies I killed them.
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Kill Bill didn't seem that violent to me because it wasn't realistic. Some parts were almost silly. The movies I mentioned were very real.

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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Originally posted by orangeguy
Some movies show such terrible violence and have no redeeming value at all. It seems like they were just made to shock people. I'm talking about movies like Monster, Butterfly Effect, Monster's Ball. I think these movies and other movies like them should be banned. You thoughts?
Banning is not the answer. If you object to the content of the above movies and others like them (I'd say Saving Private Ryan is much more violent than the three you mentioned) then by all means, do not patronize their respective producers. You have every right to your opinion, but do not think that you can dictate what is acceptable for others.

Banning a work of art because of one group's (or just one person's) objection to its content is much more harmful to society than the work in question.
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But what part about the Butterfly Effect (for example) really went out of its way to disrupt you? I mean, yes it does suck that there are some (SPOILERS)
Spoiler:
fathers that sexually abuse their daughters
and
Spoiler:
females who grow up to be low-end call-girls
, but that kind of stuff happens in real life, which is way sadder to think about that think about its depiction in a movie. As far as BE goes, there is one part that's over the top, but only in the Director's Cut, where
Spoiler:
baby Ashton kills himself in the womb
but that is just as unbelieveable as Kill Bill.
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

Originally posted by orangeguy
Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all.
Some threads have no redeeming value at all, too.

Seriously though, unless they ban "The Passion of the Christ" first, these "movies are too violent" rants don't hold any water, IMHO.

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Originally posted by orangeguy
What do movies like these have to do with free speech? You have freedom of speech but you can't yell FIRE in a crowded room or slander others. What are they trying to say with movies like these "I have a sick mind"
Yelling FIRE in a crowded room and slandering others has nothing, I repeat nothing, to do with movies like you mentioned. Banning movies which the almighty orangeguy deems unacceptible for some asinine reason steps on the free speech rights of the filmmakers and actors in those films.

Go back to watching the Care Bears Movie. That shouldn't affect your seemingly fragile (and closed) mind.
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Yes, movies starring Hilary Duff, Lindsey Lohan, Freddie Prinze Jr. & Jennifer Love Hewett should be banned...

thanks for being concerned.
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Only child pornography and snuff films should be banned.

Anything else you don't like? just don't watch!
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Well as long as they tell me far enough in advance which ones are gonna be banned I'll happily buy up all the remaining copies.
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Re: No, it has nothing to do with Michael Moore.

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You should read Fahrenheit 451. Don't watch the movie, because it sucks, but read the book...
So, you're saying the movie should be banned?
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Originally posted by orangeguy
So now I'm a Troll cause you don't agree with me? I was just stating my thoughts hoping to get some serious discussion going.
No, generally new members who post a wildly controversial topic are doing it for a reaction, hence you being called a troll.

As for getting a serious discussion going, please do. So far you haven't made any points or shown examples of bad films and how they effect people. In other words, you've made controversial statements without any argument/reasoning behind them. Again, those are the actions of a troll.
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Re: Should some movies be banned and taken off the market?

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Some movies show such terrible Violence and have no redeeming value at all.
Then don't watch them. Just because you find them offensive, doesn't mean everyone will find it offensive and without artistic merit.


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