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Old 06-18-04, 03:06 PM
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Best Picture Oscar vs. Palme d'Or

Which award in your opinion do you respect more? Winners over the last 15 years:

Academy Award
2003 Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
2002 Chicago
2001 A Beautiful Mind
2000 Gladiator
1999 American Beauty
1998 Shakespeare in Love
1997 Titanic
1996 English Patient
1995 Braveheart
1994 Forrest Gump
1993 Schindler's List
1992 Unforgiven
1991 Silence of the Lambs
1990 Dances with Wolves
1989 Driving Miss Daisy

Palme D'Or
2004 Farenheit 9/11
2003 Elephant
2002 The Pianist
2001 The Son's Room
2000 Dancer in the Dark
1999 Rosetta
1998 Eternity and a Day
1997 Taste of Cherry / The Eel
1996 Underground
1995 Secrets & Lies
1994 Pulp Fiction
1993 Farewell My Concubine / The Piano
1992 Best Intentions
1991 Barton Fink
1990 Wild at Heart
1989 sex, lies and videotape

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Neither mean that much. Judging by the list I would go with the Academy.
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Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Neither mean that much. Judging by the list I would go with the Academy.
You don't think so? I think any film crew that puts all their work, passion and talent into a movie to have it submitted in any festival or competition would be tremendously honored to have their work recognized by their peers.
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The Academy. Even though they are the #1 award for films they still don't come off with "holier than thou" attitude like Cannes does. They still recognize entertaining films.
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Originally posted by rabbit77
You don't think so? I think any film crew that puts all their work, passion and talent into a movie to have it submitted in any festival or competition would be tremendously honored to have their work recognized by their peers.
While I'm sure it means a great deal to the people involved with the film, I meant that it doesn't decide which is the best film that year.
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has any film won both?
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Marty in 1955 won both.

The Lost Weekend won both in 1946, but that was the first year the Cannes festival existed and they gave the award to 11 movies that year.

Complete list of Palme D'Or winners

Complete list of Academy Award winners

It seems like whenever they do pick an American movie, they get it right. 1976: Taxi Driver, 1979: Apocalypse Now

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The best American films usually aren't in competition at Cannes.
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Originally posted by rabbit77
You don't think so? I think any film crew that puts all their work, passion and talent into a movie to have it submitted in any festival or competition would be tremendously honored to have their work recognized by their peers.
Sounds corny but If I were a director, The only thing I would care about is if my fans loved the movies I made - dead serious, The oscars and all that other garbage make me want to puke.
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Sounds corny but If I were a director, The only thing I would care about is if my fans loved the movies I made - dead serious, The oscars and all that other garbage make me want to puke.
Yeah but when you win an Oscar all the pretty actresses are willing to do anything to be in your next film.
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Yeah but when you win an Oscar all the pretty actresses are willing to do anything to be in your next film.
Yeah, true - but I would make it hell for them if they ever worked for me
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I'm going to analyze my preferred film, year by year:

1989: sex, lies, and videotape -- Cannes
1990: Wild At Heart -- Cannes
1991: Silence of the Lambs -- Academy
1992: Unforgiven -- Academy
1993: Schindler's List -- Academy
1994: Pulp Fiction -- Cannes (by a HUGE margin)
1995: Secrets and Lies -- Cannes
1996: Hated English Patent, didn't see the other film, so I'll leave this one blank. No winner.
1997: Taste of Cherry -- Cannes (I love all three films, but ToC is amazing)
1998: Liked SiL, but didn't think it was Best Picture material. Didn't see Eternity and a Day. No winner.
1999: American Beauty -- Academy
2000: Dancer in the Dark -- Cannes
2001: A Beautiful Mind -- Academy
2002: Chicago -- Academy
2003: LOTR:ROTK -- Academy

So by a 7 to 6 tally, the Academy is slightly ahead. Which really means that they're both equally brilliant or full of shit.

Man, this Michael Moore stuff is really rankling some of you!
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Apples and oranges comparison really.

Cannes is only the best film in the competition, not the best film of that year. ALOT less films to choose from.

That said, I like the Cannes winners - as I prefer independant and foreign films over the typical Hollywood cookie-cutter films.
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One is decided by a group of sheltered, out-of-touch elitists who hate America...and so is the other one.

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i do like Cannes but they have given their top award to some truly heinous films looking at that list.. Taste of Cherry, Dancer in the Dark and Elephant were all in the "poor to awful" range. the Oscars certainly don't always pick the truly best picture, but they haven't picked any films i find unbearable either like Cannes has.
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Pulp Fiction, Barton Fink, Wild At Heart.. lets go with the Palme d'Or... Let's not forget all the other films they have celebrated (although unsure if it matters in this post) like Blow-Up, La Dolce Vita, The Third Man, and Kagemusha for example.
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I'd have t osay the Academy. While I don't always agree with their choices, it does represent an award show of all films from the US. Cannes represents...those movies showing at Cannes.

In the end, I don't know how I can prefer an award anyway. I'd be happy to get either one.
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Originally posted by Grizzly
Taste of Cherry, Dancer in the Dark and Elephant were all in the "poor to awful" range


Now you must be purified!!
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I think most of the recent Academy Best Picture winners suck outright, with the exception of The Unforgiven and Silence of the Lambs. Probably the worst I can say of recent Palme d'Or winners is that The Son's Room was a little lame, but a decent film nontheless. Since I consider Rosetta to be one of the greatest films ever made, this is a no brainer. I would like also like to point out that I have seen every film listed (except Fahrenheit 911, which I'll see next weekend), so I do have an informed opinion about these films.
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Originally posted by JustinS
One is decided by a group of sheltered, out-of-touch elitists who hate America...and so is the other one.

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Only sad thing is that I have more Oscar films than Palme d'Or... and I do not have the EE version of LOTR: Return of the King.

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Originally posted by Coral
That said, I like the Cannes winners - as I prefer independant and foreign films over the typical Hollywood cookie-cutter films.
Thank you. I thought we were going to get to two pages before someone said how stupid Hollwood is and how cool foriegn movies are.
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Don't worry, my threads never get to two pages.

I voted for the Palme D'Or simply because they recognized the two most inspirational films for me: Pulp Fiction and The Third Man.
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Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Thank you. I thought we were going to get to two pages before someone said how stupid Hollwood is and how cool foriegn movies are.
Well, trying to say that and using the Palme d'Or winners as evidence would be pretty silly, since American movies win the top prize at Cannes more often than movies from anywhere else. Roughly 1/3 of the Golden Palm winners on the list given are American films, and that's not counting the films made by foreign directors but with mainly American casts.
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Originally posted by RyoHazuki
Thank you. I thought we were going to get to two pages before someone said how stupid Hollwood is and how cool foriegn movies are.
No problem.

Glad to be of assistance.


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