DARTH GAMER

Game Informer Top 10 Games of E3 2004

1.) Halo 2
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios
Developer: Bungie
Platform: Xbox

2.) The Legend of Zelda
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Nintendo
Platform: GameCube

3.) Final Fantasy XII
Publisher: Square Enix
Developer: Square Enix
Platform: PlayStation 2

4.) Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Nintendo
Platform: GameCube

5.) Jade Empire
Publisher: Microsoft Game Studios
Developer: BioWare Corp.
Platform: Xbox

6.) Splinter Cell 3
Publisher: Ubisoft
Developer: Ubisoft Montreal
Platform: PC, Xbox, PlayStation 2

7.) Resident Evil 4
Publisher: Capcom
Developer: Capcom
Platform: GameCube

8.) Gran Turismo 4
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment America
Developer: Polyphony Digital
Platform: PlayStation 2

9.) World of Warcraft
Publisher: Blizzard
Developer: Blizzard
Platform: PC

10.) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Publisher: Konami
Developer: Konami
Platform: PlayStation 2



-Billy Berghammer

I didnt even know there was a Splinter Cell 3 in the making yet! Very cool indeed. I love the series.

warcp

Gamespot's list is a bit different:

-- Best Game of the Show: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3 (Ubisoft - PC)
-- Best PC Game: Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3 (Ubisoft)
-- Best Xbox Game: MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf (Microsoft)
-- Best PS2 Game: God of War (Sony Computer
(Entertainment of America)
-- Best GameCube Game: Resident Evil 4 (Capcom)
-- Best Game Boy Advance Game: The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap (Nintendo)
-- Best N-Gage Game: Pathway to Glory (Nokia)
-- Best Mobile Game: Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3 (Gameloft)

Gromit

Nice mix of games for each console in Game Informer's list.

It's still good to have all 3.

Michael Corvin

That is what I was going to say. If you give Splinter Cell 3 to Xbox, each system has 3 and the last one for PC.

sfsdfd

Out of the top ten games, nine are sequels.

This is a primary reason why I no longer play games very often.

- David Stein

Groucho

I disgree with the idea that sequels are necessarily better or worse than brand-new games. Take each game on its own merits, that's my motto.

jrutz

I don't know about anyone else, but I thought the game of the show was Tales of Symphonia for the GC. This game was simply awesome to watch.

I just might have to buy a GC for this game.

Jeremy

Josh H

I agree, to an extent. I'm just getting sick of playing the same stuff over and over, even in series I love like Zelda and Metroid.

The limitation of sequels, is they really can't offer too much innovation. If they change too much, they'll alienate the fans of the original who want/expect more of the same.

Thus sequels perpetuate the problem of getting the same gameplay rehashed over and over again.

PixyJunket

As a long-time fan of the series (and the only reasons I really bought a PS2 was to play the import-only Tales of Destiny 2) I can relate. I am really excited for this one. Now if Namco would release ToD2 and the upcoming Tales of Rebirth here..

Groucho

On the flip side, while new games might be innovative (in reality most are just rehashes of other games), it is often in the sequel(s) that the gameplay is tweaked and made better.

Josh H

Oh, I agree. That's why my interest in gaming has been fastly waning in recent months.

Most knew games are just crappy knock offs of hit games, and most sequels are just slightly improved versions of the originals.

Just too much "same old, same old."

young

but, there's nothing new under the sun... every game is a rehash of something.

i'm w/ groucho. if it's a good game, that's what it is.

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my top 6 games that i'm looking forward to:
Forza
sw: KotOR 2
Jade Empire
GT4
FFXII
Tales of Symphonia

Josh H

I know. That's why numerous other hobbies have jumped above gaming for me in recent years.

Variety is the spice of life, and there's none in gaming IMO.

Groucho

Come on, it's ALWAYS been that way. After the success of PAC-MAN there were a billion PAC-MAN clones. After the success of SUPER MARIO BROTHERS every other game was a side-scroller. Not to mention that this isn't unique to video gaming...it's prevelant in EVERY form of popular entertainment.

The reality is that there is more variety now than there has ever been...especially if one seeks out games outside of the big publishers, goes multi-console, and games on PC as well. Look at this forum...all the time I see threads about little-known (but GREAT) games that are overlooked. Meanwhile, the "big" hyped games have pages and pages of replies and comments.

DeanoBKN

Although seeing nothing but sequels can get annoying, at least they don't follow suit with the movie industry. Most times, the sequel is better then the first game.

Josh H

True enough, it's just gotten old after 20 years of gaming.

And I know it's the same way in other entertainment. My movie watching and especially music listening has dwindled some lately as well.

I've been reading more, and mainly focusing on physical hobbies like weightlifting and running.

I don't really expect it to improve, but I guess I still have some glimmer of hope for something new and exciting to come out. Be every E3 is just dissapointment for me for the most part.

cheapskate

You'll be back... you'll be back...

In the meantime, enjoy the utterly non-repetitive activity of lifting a big heavy thing up and putting it back down again...

Excuse me while I play another round of Munch Man.

Josh H

I work a different body part everyday, and don't do the exact same workout twice, so it's not that repetitive.

Plus I enjoy the health benefits and the extra attention from the ladies.

PixyJunket

<3 C64

young

weightlifting and running is original??? c'mon man; they've been doing that since the dawn of time! i think the amphibians probably invented it (beta version).

Josh H

I never said they were original, but I haven't been doing them for 20 years, so I'm not sick of them yet.

Plus they have health benefits, so there's more motivation than entertainment to do those activities.

Groucho

Video games have health benefits too, you know. For instance, they protect my pale skin from the hot hot sun.

Josh H

Michael Corvin

You must not have played many of the Zelda games. There was a drastic jump in gameplay from 1 to 2. Then A link to the past went back to the Original Zelda Style. Then you have Ocarina of Time. Which is totally different than the previous efforts. Then Majora's Mask, which was pretty similar. Then you have Wind Waker which is quite different than the rest. And now they are bringing us another completely different game sometime soon.
Granted in all you build up your health to go fight the bad guy, but that is standard to all games.

I don't think the Zelda series are traditional sequels. IMO. Each is its own adventure and you don't have to know anything about the rest to play or enjoy each installment. Anyway, next poster...

PixyJunket

Majora's Mask was not pretty similar to Ocarina of Time.. in fact it is probably the most "different" Zelda game of the entire series. It looks and feels a bit similar because it's on the same engine, but that's about where it ends.