Can John Fogerty play CCR songs again?
03-19-04, 05:38 PM
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Can John Fogerty play CCR songs again?
Listening to my CCR Chronicle album...what great songs. I remember that John and his ex-mates had a big falling out and that essentially, he can't play CCR songs. Has that been resolved? I think it's ridiculous that the man who penned them cannot sing them.
03-20-04, 08:59 AM
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Pick this LIVE CD or DVD up from 1998 and you'll hear these:
 | CCR classics: Born on the Bayou Green River Susie-Q I Put a Spell on You Who'll Stop the Rain Down on the Corner Bad Moon Rising Fortunate Son Proud Mary Travelin' Band Also includes a few of his solo hits: Premonition Almost Saturday Night Rockin' All over the World Joy of My Life Centerfield Swamp River Days Hot Rod Heart Old Man Down the Road |
03-20-04, 01:39 PM
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Re: Can John Fogerty play CCR songs again?
Originally posted by DVD Josh
Listening to my CCR Chronicle album...what great songs. I remember that John and his ex-mates had a big falling out and that essentially, he can't play CCR songs. Has that been resolved? I think it's ridiculous that the man who penned them cannot sing them.
Listening to my CCR Chronicle album...what great songs. I remember that John and his ex-mates had a big falling out and that essentially, he can't play CCR songs. Has that been resolved? I think it's ridiculous that the man who penned them cannot sing them.
03-21-04, 11:17 AM
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He's been playing them again for years, as evidenced by the 1998 live album above.
He eventually said screw it and just started playing them and paying the royalties to whoever has the rights.
He eventually said screw it and just started playing them and paying the royalties to whoever has the rights.
03-21-04, 02:10 PM
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Basically, in order to get out of his putrid CCR-era contract with Fantasy Records, Fogerty had to give up the publishing rights to all of his Creedence songs. As his relations with Fantasy further deteriorated throughout the 1970's, Fogerty decided to walk away from his Creedence repertoire, and never perform them again. He certainly had the legal *right* to perform those songs -- a bitter Fogerty just wasn't inclined to.
Two things changed his mind:
1) In early 1987, Fogerty was invited to jam with Bob Dylan and George Harrison at the Palomino Club in North Hollywood. They wanted him to do a CCR song, and when he balked, Dylan warned him that "if you don't do 'Proud Mary', everybody is gonna remember it as a Tina Turner song." Fogerty, swayed by what he called Dylan's "inescapable logic", went through with it, performing a Creedence tune live for the first time in many years.
2) Not long afterward, Fogerty was visiting the Mississippi grave of bluesman Robert Johnson, another musical legend whose song ownership was in severe disarray. During this visit, Fogerty realized that, no matter who technically "owned" Johnson's songs, they belonged to Johnson forever; in the eyes of history, no one could take that away. This helped Fogerty reconcile his own situation, and free himself to start doing CCR songs again in good conscience.
And no, Creedence didn't play Live Aid; they never reunited after their 1972 breakup.
Two things changed his mind:
1) In early 1987, Fogerty was invited to jam with Bob Dylan and George Harrison at the Palomino Club in North Hollywood. They wanted him to do a CCR song, and when he balked, Dylan warned him that "if you don't do 'Proud Mary', everybody is gonna remember it as a Tina Turner song." Fogerty, swayed by what he called Dylan's "inescapable logic", went through with it, performing a Creedence tune live for the first time in many years.
2) Not long afterward, Fogerty was visiting the Mississippi grave of bluesman Robert Johnson, another musical legend whose song ownership was in severe disarray. During this visit, Fogerty realized that, no matter who technically "owned" Johnson's songs, they belonged to Johnson forever; in the eyes of history, no one could take that away. This helped Fogerty reconcile his own situation, and free himself to start doing CCR songs again in good conscience.
And no, Creedence didn't play Live Aid; they never reunited after their 1972 breakup.
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1) In early 1987, Fogerty was invited to jam with Bob Dylan and George Harrison at the Palomino Club in North Hollywood. They wanted him to do a CCR song, and when he balked, Dylan warned him that "if you don't do 'Proud Mary', everybody is gonna remember it as a Tina Turner song." Fogerty, swayed by what he called Dylan's "inescapable logic", went through with it, performing a Creedence tune live for the first time in many years.
I actually have this recording. It was a Taj Mahal concert. A TERRIBLE recording though.
I actually have this recording. It was a Taj Mahal concert. A TERRIBLE recording though.
07-10-04, 03:50 PM
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I came into this forum about to ask the same question as the OP, but since that's already been done, I might as well ask another Fogerty related question.
How are his live shows now? I see he's performing at the Minnesota Fairgrounds coming up (along with Johnny Lang) and I was thinking he might be worth checking out. I like his songs, but I'm kind of afraid that he might have lost any luster for performing he might have had.
Would it be worth the $20 to see Fogerty and Lang (I've never actually heard Lang, except for Lie to Me, but I am a fan of the blues rock genre)
How are his live shows now? I see he's performing at the Minnesota Fairgrounds coming up (along with Johnny Lang) and I was thinking he might be worth checking out. I like his songs, but I'm kind of afraid that he might have lost any luster for performing he might have had.
Would it be worth the $20 to see Fogerty and Lang (I've never actually heard Lang, except for Lie to Me, but I am a fan of the blues rock genre)
07-10-04, 05:05 PM
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How are his live shows now? I see he's performing at the Minnesota Fairgrounds coming up (along with Johnny Lang) and I was thinking he might be worth checking out. I like his songs, but I'm kind of afraid that he might have lost any luster for performing he might have had.
Would it be worth the $20 to see Fogerty
How are his live shows now? I see he's performing at the Minnesota Fairgrounds coming up (along with Johnny Lang) and I was thinking he might be worth checking out. I like his songs, but I'm kind of afraid that he might have lost any luster for performing he might have had.
Would it be worth the $20 to see Fogerty
Posted on Mon, Jun. 28, 2004
Fogerty delivers barrage of hits at Villa Montalvo
By Brad Kava
Mercury News
Veteran rocker John Fogerty told an almost-full house at Villa Montalvo's Garden Theatre that he had just finished recording a new album the day before the Friday night show that opened his national tour.
Trouble is, the album won't be out for a few more months. So Fogerty gave the rattle-your-jewelry Saratoga crowd 90 minutes of almost solid classic-rock hits, all done in a venue that had the intimacy of a back yard. A very nice back yard.
From the Creedence Clearwater Revival songbook there was a too-short ``Suzie Q,'' a politically relevant ``Fortunate Son,'' the wedding standard ``Proud Mary,'' ``Green River,'' ``Who'll Stop the Rain'' and ``Have You Ever Seen the Rain?'' There were later hits that sounded like old ones: ``Centerfield'' and ``Old Man Down the Road.'' And some rarities: ``Rockin' All Over the World'' and ``Blue Ridge Mountain Blues.''
The real beauty was in hearing songs often covered by others done in the voice that made them famous. The band, which included former Other Ones and Bruce Hornsby drummer John Molo, had a few first-night rough spots, but otherwise, there was no bad moon rising around this bend. Fogerty is definitely ready to play.
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Review: Fogerty puts new life into old Creedence nuggets
Thursday, July 1, 2004
By GENE STOUT
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER POP MUSIC CRITIC
A nearly full moon rose above the trees Wednesday night at Marymoor Park as John Fogerty closed a near-flawless concert with "Bad Moon Rising," a classic tune from his days with Creedence Clearwater Revival.
The same thing happened at Fogerty's 1998 concert at Chateau Ste. Michelle, where the veteran rocker played a triumphant show after bouncing back from a bitter legal dispute that had fractured CCR years before.
Looking trim and fit at Marymoor, Fogerty powered through a 90-minute set filled with spirited renditions of "Born on the Bayou," "Green River," "Who'll Stop the Rain," "Lodi," "Down on the Corner" and other CCR favorites, as well as such solo tunes as "The Old Man Down the Road" and "Centerfield," which featured the singer-guitarist on a baseball bat-shaped guitar. Also featured were a bluegrass tune from his Blue Ridge Rangers days and a nod to Bo Diddley, an important influence early in his career.
If Fogerty was tired of playing songs that were hits so many years ago, it wasn't apparent in his performance. He infused them with fresh energy and enthusiasm, bringing the crowd to its feet with the fiery opening song, "Born on the Bayou."
"This is a young crowd -- young!" Fogerty said as he gazed at a sea of energetic, middle-aged concertgoers grooving to a high-energy blend of rock 'n' roll, blues, country and bluegrass.
Among those in the audience was Mick Fleetwood of Fleetwood Mac, which was scheduled to play the White River Amphitheatre Thursday night. Among those in Fogerty's talented band was guitarist Billy Burnette, who played with Fleetwood Mac for seven years.
Fogerty could have relied more on band members on many of the songs, but chose to do most of the heavy lifting himself. Changing guitars for nearly every song, he played crisp leads while singing in a strong, powerful voice that has aged well. His trademark yowl was still a thrill to hear.
Fogerty introduced his band as "the best musicians he has ever had the pleasure of playing with," a dig at his former CCR bandmates, with whom he recorded an amazing 19 singles in five years. Surviving members formed Creedence Clearwater Revisited, enlisting a new singer to take Fogerty's place.
For a crowd-pleasing "Suzy Q," CCR's first big hit in 1968, Fogerty played a Rickenbacker guitar similar to a model he used at the 1969 Woodstock festival. A high-revving "Up Around the Bend" brought wide grins to concertgoers' faces, while the traditional "Midnight Special" was greeted with handclaps. But Fogerty seemed disappointed by a lackluster singalong during "Cotton Fields (the Cotton Song)."
Fogerty finished his show with the Delta blues-influenced "The Old Man Down the Road," the 1975 hit "Rockin' All Over the World" and the swamp-boogie classic "Bad Moon Rising."
The singer-guitarist returned for a short, high-powered encore featuring two CCR megahits, "Fortunate Son" and "Proud Mary."
07-18-04, 03:56 PM
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It's actually kind of scary just how good Fogerty still is, as was evidenced when he played the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Concert and then brought out the Premonition DVD/CD. I'd jump on the chance to see him live .
