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Old 11-04-03, 08:59 PM
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why doesn't palmer's brother just tell him what it is? anyone think chase is gonna end up dead by the end of the season? another mole in CTU? they don't do enough background checks.
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The other thread was closed.

I don't think chase will end up dead, I think Kim will. That little speech by Jack about "Keeping my daughter under my eye" and the mole revelation at the end of the episode might lead to some creedance that Kim might be bumped off before this first 8 hours end.

And again, the Kim moments kinda slowed things down again.

Otherwise, this episode opened more questions.
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Enjoyed the episode, then watched next weeks preview which showed Fox has shit for brains.
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avoided the preview like usual
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This episode was better than the first. We finally got some intrigue in the last 5 minutes. The first 55 were like the first show, nothing but background.

What do you think the problem is with Dr. Packard? nitially thought that she was going to end up being a lacky working for Max from season two. I figured that Mandy was sent in to make the President sick, and then the Dr. was sent in to keep tabs on him, or finish the job.

Now with this mystery around her this early in the season, I think I was wrong. She must have some other agenda.

How about Gael working for CTU? It appears that he is working under Jack in the Field Ops division. It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out. Especially since we've seen the 'mole in CTU' angle played before. It could be different this time though because now we know who it is.

I have given up watching the promos at the end of the shows. I know that Fox is going to spoil something in everyone of them. Once the clock ticks to an even hour I turn it off.
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For those who missed the end of the show preview for next week, I think it has something to do with Dustin Hoffman, Rene Russo and a crazy monkey...oh, wait a minute, just having a flashback...

Not a bad episode tonight...but not as good as the premiere. I'm just hoping we won't see yet another attempt on the President's life this season. "Now breaking the assassination attempt record, let's give a big hello to President Palmer!"

BTW, I don't think they are going to kill off Kim...I mean poor Jack is never going to get off the smack if he has to deal with another family member's death. He'd also be closing in on the "Andy Sipowitz 'Let's see how many family members and friends we can kill off before you go back to substance abuse' Award".
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Originally posted by DGibFen
The other thread was closed.

I don't think chase will end up dead, I think Kim will. That little speech by Jack about "Keeping my daughter under my eye" and the mole revelation at the end of the episode might lead to some creedance that Kim might be bumped off before this first 8 hours end.

And again, the Kim moments kinda slowed things down again.

Otherwise, this episode opened more questions.
with the speech from jack I kinda think they are going to kill Jack this season
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well, tonite we had the return of Kim's stupidity..

the mole was RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER and she just gave him a message and walked away...

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Nice to know Olmeda made Michelle an honest woman.

What's the name of the actress playing the brother's wife? I'm trying to place her...

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Originally posted by ChrisHicks
with the speech from jack I kinda think they are going to kill Jack this season
the word is that that is what Keifer wants, however the other producers are trying to block it from occurring
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meh

The first half was pretty average. It picked up with the mole in CTU and the shootout in the crack house.
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wholly shit. The preview for next week is ****ing crazy.
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I had to laugh at Chase's advice to Jack-- sounded like dialogue straight from the movie "Airplane":

"Jack, it looks like you picked the wrong day to stop shooting heroin."

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Good episode!
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Originally posted by Jadzia
I had to laugh at Chase's advice to Jack-- sounded like dialogue straight from the movie "Airplane":

"Jack, it looks like you picked the wrong day to stop shooting heroin."

Didn't even think of that... haha. He should say something wacky like that every episode. Jack, looks like you picked the wrong day to (fill in the blank).

I enjoyed it tonight, as much as I enjoyed last week. Lots of stuff going on. I thought it was weird how fast Jack/CTU got the identity of the kid that was carrying the drugs/virus (I figured it would be drawn out to several hours). I started thinking this threat could be taken care of pretty fast.

I thought Kim's stupidity returned when she decided today HAS to be the day to tell Jack about her and Chasey. I know its part of the whole plotline so it had to happen. But really, it could have waited until there was no more threat of a deadly virus that could kill tons of people.
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Originally posted by Wazootyman
the word is that that is what Keifer wants, however the other producers are trying to block it from occurring
That's not what Keifer wants...he just suggested that it would be an exciting way to shake things up on the show. Trust me, ain't going to happen unless cancellation is assured...Sutherland IS the show.
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Any chance some future episode might involve the mole holding Kim hostage at CTU and because they don't negotiate with terrorists, Kim winds up dead?

Or am I just wishing for too much?
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SO, is that Kim having a lesbian experience rumor dead?
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It was a decent episode. I'm really beginning to like Wayne Palmer--I think he's gonna be a great character this year. My main problem with the episode was with Kim. Once again she shows her complete lack of common sense. She knows there is a bioterrorist threat and that her father is extremely stressed out, so what does she do? Of course she picks then to tell her dad that she's been doing his partner behind his back for the last 3 months.
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anybody else laugh at the "pulling a Sherry" line by palmer's brother. I personally think the doctor of palmer is a mole working against him and that the man who is the mole at ctu will some how kill somebody important within the next few "hours"
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Deleted a bunch of spoiler tags. Please see my note at the top of the thread about using them properly.
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I got it: Doc Anne is really Mandy's mom in deep undercover (with gene therapy to boot)!

The girl playing Chloe was also in "Legally Blonde 2" (the DVD just came out this week). I wouldn't discount the possibility that she does have a meltdown having to serve to masters this day in a high pressure situation.

I didn't like the mole being in CTU once again either. It's a cheap way to ratchet up the tension where the bad guys has an advantage in out-positioning Jack and company.

Kim's a brat, 3 years of more schooling notwithstanding. I think she's going to get Chase killed. But if Kim got killed, Jack foreshadowed it with his point that the job cost him his wife Terri.

2 hours into the season, and I almost miss Sherri. Heh. Wayne even uttered her name.

And yes, I wish I didn't watch the previews for the next hour. Grr...damn Fox marketing department!
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Keifer is supposedly on contract for more than this year. And Kim would upset the balance too much. Chase being the one killed seems more appropriate. Kim seeing the world from her fathers side and Keifers speach to Chase makes this occurance more obvious. Still it is early in the season so anything could happen.

On different notes I am dissappointed that Palmer did not have a metal hook for a hand after the attempted assasination attempt.
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Pretty boring stuff. Too much time on the soap opera elements: "I got you a job at CTU so I could keep an eye on you. I'm shocked, SHOCKED that you got involved with a field agent!"

If this keeps up, I probably won't last the season.
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• Quoth Groucho •<HR SIZE=1>Pretty boring stuff. Too much time on the soap opera elements: "I got you a job at CTU so I could keep an eye on you. I'm shocked, SHOCKED that you got involved with a field agent!"

If this keeps up, I probably won't last the season.
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Yeah, I was surprised how bored I was watching this. Even with its prior silliness, it was still an intense show. These first 2 episodes haven't even been that.

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