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10-02-03, 08:22 PM
Okay, birthday coming up and was going to buy myself something but so far I have been happy with my 8500 except for Halo, man that game is jumpy even on 800x600...anyway, on every other game ive been happy with my 8500, so convince me to get the 9800?

Will I need one when it comes time for doom 3 and half life 2? I blame the failure of Halo (requirement wise) on Microsoft...but how much of an improvement will I get...also, what abotu just getting the 9800 128 instead of the pro..or do they make a 64mg version? Thansk...

10-02-03, 11:21 PM
You won't NEED one to play either Doom 3 or Half Life 2, but it will perform and look substantially subpar. According to most benchmarks, for HL2, the game running at nominal resolution, with no AA/AF, on a 9800 gets about 50-60fps. The 8500 should run it at about the same FPS, but you will be sacrificing quite a bit of the effects due to the way the game scales based on your hardware.

Doom 3 is another story, I have no idea what kind of system it is using or what specific requirements it will have.

If you are willing to shell out the big bucks, get the 256mb card. They don't make a 64, it's either 128 or 256. Technically speaking though, the 128 is going to be a fine amount of video memory for quite a while still, but if it were me, I know I would wanna get a few years out of a card that expensive.

Also take into consideration the rest of your computer. If you are running something lower than ~1.5ghz or so, getting a 9800 will not help much. Then the case will be your CPU is too slow, and creating a bottleneck there instead of your Video card being too slow.

Another consideration is getting a 9700 Pro. They are dropping in price, and are going to perform close (within about 10%) to the 9800s.

10-03-03, 12:42 AM
Ergyu is right about looking at the rest of your system.

Personally I would not jump to a 9800 unless you have a very nice system already.

Putting a 9800 in a lower end system is a waste unless you are going to upgrade soon and are jumping on a deal now on the video card.

Give us your specs and you will get better advice :)

10-03-03, 02:53 AM
Ahh, sorry about that, typed quick and forgot to put my specs in there. Im running an

Athlon XP 1.4 ghz
512k DDR 2100 ram
windows XP and

What would be the best pruchase? The 8500 I have is the retail 64mg version.

10-03-03, 09:08 AM
Given your system specs, you should probably treat yourself to a new nforce2 mobo, cpu (2500+?) and ram (1GB PC3200?) before you think about a 9800. You could probably get those 3 parts for less than a 9800 256, and Santa is just around the corner!

Edit: Just for kicks, here are some prices off Newegg:

Albatron KX18D Pro II mobo $107 shipped
1GB Kingston PC3200 $204 shipped
AMD 2500+ (Barton) $91 shipped (retail box, w/ HSF)

I'm sure others might have different suggestions for the specific parts (such as the Asus A7N8X Deluxe mobo for $127 shipped, or perhaps faster [or cheaper] RAM), but this is just to give you an idea. You could also save some $ by going with refurbs on the RAM and CPU (I paid $66 for a refurb retail 2500+) (I personally would stick with a new mobo just to avoid the potential hassle of hunting around for backplate/cables/connectors/discs if the refurb came bare -- many folks not bothered by that, though).

10-03-03, 07:54 PM
So with my specs what do the rest of you guys think?

Gallant Pig
10-03-03, 08:11 PM
Your computer is junk, if you buy it, you'd be throwing your money away.

Wait until Doom comes out and upgrade then.

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