Why are the forum Buttons being pulled from an AD server?
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Why are the forum Buttons being pulled from an AD server?
My pop up blocking program also blocks lots of ads and I can never see the buttons at dvdtalk.com to post messages and things unless I close it down. Why the heck are the buttons for New Message, register, faq, etc being pulled from ads.kleinman.com and not from the dvdtalk forums server?
It's really a pain in the ass.
It's really a pain in the ass.
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If your reasoning that the question answers itself is that they want to force peopel to have to look at ads, that's a really bad answer. DVDTalk gets paid the money for the ads whether or not my PC shows them to me or not. I'm not ever going to click one and if I have to make PC changes every time I want to post something here, I'll probably just go find somewhere else to post.
I would hope that a website as big and great as DVDTalk wouldn't purposefully force their users to have to be presented with tons of pointless, annoying, and intrusive ads. But I guess that's their choice.
I'm just looking for an answer one way or the other.
I would hope that a website as big and great as DVDTalk wouldn't purposefully force their users to have to be presented with tons of pointless, annoying, and intrusive ads. But I guess that's their choice.
I'm just looking for an answer one way or the other.
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Ad-blocking software is against forum rules.
http://www.dvdtalk.com/legal.html
DVD Talk is a private membership organization, NOT a public forum. Membership to DVD Talk is predicated on your ADHERENCE to the rules and policies detailed below. Failure to abide by these rules will result in the closure of your forum account and an end to your Membership on the site. DVD Talk Membership is not free, the membership fee (which is thirty dollars per year) is paid on your behalf by the advertisers on this site. As such you agree not to use any ad blocking or suppression software or be liable for your membership fee.
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I am sure Geoff could answer more directly than I, but I think the idea is that the ad server functions as a image server, and the buttons are images. The main server is optimized for the database and loading. The ad server is optimized for serving images. And a lot of the effort behind the scenes is to balance the server loads to handle the huge amounts of bandwidth and processing required for the forum.
That is my guess.
That is my guess.
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I'm pretty sure klemvor was right in his assumption that the reason the forum images are on the ad server is to inconvenience those blocking the ad server. As posted by Copenhagen, you cannot block the ads on the site, so there should be no problem for anyone - unless you are breaking the rules.
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Here it is from the horses mouth:
The images for the forum come from ads.kleinman.com in equal parts:
- To load balance. When we had them come from the same server that was serving the php pages it really dogged the system
- Ads is optimized to serve images and ads so they should load faster from there
- People who block ads (which they've basically agreed NOT to do in the member agreement) have a more difficult time using the forum
The images for the forum come from ads.kleinman.com in equal parts:
- To load balance. When we had them come from the same server that was serving the php pages it really dogged the system
- Ads is optimized to serve images and ads so they should load faster from there
- People who block ads (which they've basically agreed NOT to do in the member agreement) have a more difficult time using the forum
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Join the Premium Service coming soon and keep your buttons
Geoff feel free to use that great slogan when you launch the Dvdtalk Premium Service
Geoff feel free to use that great slogan when you launch the Dvdtalk Premium Service
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I'm sure it's wrong and naughty and all that but who the heck reads the "Terms of Agreement" when they sign up for something. I don't know that I've ever read one so I wouldn't have had any way of knowing about the ad server thing.
But as long as DVDTalk doesn't put in any ads with Pop Ups or with Sound, that's fine.
But as long as DVDTalk doesn't put in any ads with Pop Ups or with Sound, that's fine.
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I think it's pretty funny when a forum adds a requirement that ad-blocking be turned off in order to remain a member. I guess the people who run some websites forget that people visit other websites also and it's just absurd to think that everybody will go through the hassle of turning ads on & off just to visit DVDtalk.
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Originally posted by Peep
I think it's pretty funny when a forum adds a requirement that ad-blocking be turned off in order to remain a member. I guess the people who run some websites forget that people visit other websites also and it's just absurd to think that everybody will go through the hassle of turning ads on & off just to visit DVDtalk.
I think it's pretty funny when a forum adds a requirement that ad-blocking be turned off in order to remain a member. I guess the people who run some websites forget that people visit other websites also and it's just absurd to think that everybody will go through the hassle of turning ads on & off just to visit DVDtalk.
And really, "tons" of "intrusive" ads? Maybe I've just gotten used to it all, but I can think of the one pop-under that loads when you first visit the forums, banner ads at the top of each page, and then certain temporary "ad initiatives" like the current LOTR:TTT one and are usually posted about in here. How many others are there? Freedom is not free... and neither is bandwidth. He's gotta pay for it somehow.
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Originally posted by Static Cling
Hopefully some software will come out soon that will allow people to selectively allow images to be loaded from certain servers while blocking them from others.
Hopefully some software will come out soon that will allow people to selectively allow images to be loaded from certain servers while blocking them from others.
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I use AdsGone and it lets me do that. It has a huge list of servers that it doesn't allow ads from but if you do have to (like here), then you can select that server and put it in the "allow" list.
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Originally posted by Static Cling
Hopefully some software will come out soon that will allow people to selectively allow images to be loaded from certain servers while blocking them from others.
And really, "tons" of "intrusive" ads? Maybe I've just gotten used to it all, but I can think of the one pop-under that loads when you first visit the forums, banner ads at the top of each page, and then certain temporary "ad initiatives" like the current LOTR:TTT one and are usually posted about in here. How many others are there? Freedom is not free... and neither is bandwidth. He's gotta pay for it somehow.
Hopefully some software will come out soon that will allow people to selectively allow images to be loaded from certain servers while blocking them from others.
And really, "tons" of "intrusive" ads? Maybe I've just gotten used to it all, but I can think of the one pop-under that loads when you first visit the forums, banner ads at the top of each page, and then certain temporary "ad initiatives" like the current LOTR:TTT one and are usually posted about in here. How many others are there? Freedom is not free... and neither is bandwidth. He's gotta pay for it somehow.
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Originally posted by kelemvor
I use AdsGone and it lets me do that. It has a huge list of servers that it doesn't allow ads from but if you do have to (like here), then you can select that server and put it in the "allow" list.
I use AdsGone and it lets me do that. It has a huge list of servers that it doesn't allow ads from but if you do have to (like here), then you can select that server and put it in the "allow" list.
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Originally posted by Peep
Just a quick note to say that, while you started off quoting me, the "tons" of "intrusive" ads comment was actually from kelemvor. I have found DVDtalk to be totally within reason when it comes to ads (the stray misleading spam ad nonwithstanding).
Just a quick note to say that, while you started off quoting me, the "tons" of "intrusive" ads comment was actually from kelemvor. I have found DVDtalk to be totally within reason when it comes to ads (the stray misleading spam ad nonwithstanding).
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Originally posted by Ginwen
So far, this new google toolbar seems to be doing just that pretty well.
So far, this new google toolbar seems to be doing just that pretty well.