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Old 08-18-03 | 02:41 PM
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Seemingly Different Movies, Surprisingly Similar Plots

Plot 1: A widowed ex-preacher has lost his faith. Along with his son and daughter, he battles monsters using a surprising weapon...water. The climax involves our heroes having to survive an entire evening without leaving the building. The main character has a brother who is very different than him, but who he loves despite his faults.

Am I talking about

Spoiler:
Signs


or

Spoiler:
From Dusk Til Dawn


Plot 2: A loveable rogue who is a petty criminal infiltrates a criminal organization with the intent of taking it down from the inside. He is instantly befriended by the head of the evil organization and rises quickly to the top. Meanwhile, he falls in love with the honcho's girl. He is betrayed by somebody who he considers a friend...this former friend is then killed on the orders of the honcho. Honcho then tries to kill both the hero and the girl, but both escape. Eventually, the hero defeats the honcho.

Am I talking about

Spoiler:
XXX


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Gangs of New York
Old 08-18-03 | 02:56 PM
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Well, there's only seven plots as there is in all of Hollywood... if you want to get picky about it:

Plot 3: Girl gets kidnapped by evil forces with supernatural powers. Naive young man must team up with crafty old veteran who may or may not be just out for his own personal gain in order to sail in, rescue the girl and save the day.

Is that

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Star Wars

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Pirates of the Carribean

I bet you can do that with virtually any movie.
Old 08-18-03 | 03:11 PM
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You can do this with any movie. If you didn't like movies then you wouldn't be here. *Yawn moving to a smarter thread.
Old 08-18-03 | 03:14 PM
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Yeah, there are basically the same plot devices used over and over again in all stories, whether they are books, movies, plays, etc.

As for Plot 1, I'd have to say you're talking about Signs because as far as I can remember Harvey Keitel didn't have a brother in Dusk til Dawn.
Old 08-18-03 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by lesterlong
*Yawn moving to a smarter thread.
Boy, you took me down a notch. An intellectual such as yourself should have known better than to "slum" in this thread.

What I was trying to get at was not the basic plot of a movie ("Boy Meets Girl" etc). Rather, seemingly specific details about a movie that happens to match another film that at first glance is completely different.

renaldow, read my description for Plot 1 again. There's a reason I wrote "The main character has a brother..."
Old 08-18-03 | 03:42 PM
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Doesn't Entertainment Weekly do this every so often in their magazine? Looks like the moviemakers aren't the only ones stealing ideas, eh Groucho?
Old 08-18-03 | 03:45 PM
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Doesn't Entertainment Weekly do this every so often in their magazine?
They used to, although I haven't seen it for a while. They had a good one comparing When Harry Met Sally to Woody Allen movies.
Old 08-18-03 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
Boy, you took me down a notch. An intellectual such as yourself should have known better than to "slum" in this thread.

What I was trying to get at was not the basic plot of a movie ("Boy Meets Girl" etc). Rather, seemingly specific details about a movie that happens to match another film that at first glance is completely different.

renaldow, read my description for Plot 1 again. There's a reason I wrote "The main character has a brother..."
Sorry, but I'm so used to your elitist sense of humor in other threads I wanted to shoot back when you were in the spotlight. I didn't mean much by it.
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I knew I shouldn't have highlighted the second blacked out title. Damn me and my curisoity.
Old 08-18-03 | 09:29 PM
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I knew I shouldn't have highlighted the second blacked out title. Damn me and my curisoity.
Seriously...this concept is impossible to execute without major spoilers happening. I think you should show the titles, then spoilerize the description. At least then we can avoid spoilers for movies we haven't seen (that water thing is a MAJOR spoiler, for instance).
Old 08-18-03 | 09:38 PM
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Yea, I've seen the first film that that plot outlined, and kept thinking of where else it could have fit. Not a big deal.
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Ah, me and my friend had a lot of fun doing these before. The one that came up the most often was Braveheart vs. The Patriot (wants to be an indifferent farmer, thrust into war when his loved ones are threatened, ragtag bunch flock to him, etc etc).

Lately, it's been 8 Mile and Bend It Like Beckham.
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Or Debbie Does Dallas and The Terminator
Both arrive from a far-off place and then proceed to "do" everyone. And they both get theirs in the end.
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A friend of mine gave me this one:

A plot to use clones which were rejected by the Council years ago. Engineering a crisis so that the Council would be forced to use the clone army. A villain used as the template for the clones. All of this engineered by someone the Council trusts but whom is really a villain in the background who is playing both sides.

Is it...

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Star Wars Ep. II


or is it...

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Judge Dredd
Old 08-19-03 | 08:19 AM
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Well, there's only seven plots as there is in all of Hollywood... if you want to get picky about it:
Whether there are 1, 3, 7, 20, 36, 37, or some other number of basic plots is a matter of conjecture and debate. I personally do not find these schemas to be useful. It’s a little like saying there are only three primary colors.
Old 08-19-03 | 11:24 AM
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Of course there are more obvious ripoffs:

A CG movie about ants.

Is it.....
Spoiler:
Ants (gasp)


or is it....
Spoiler:
A Bug's Life



A deadly comet/meteor hurtles through space directly at Earth.

Is it....
Spoiler:
Armageadon


or is it....
Spoiler:
Deep Impact
Old 08-19-03 | 12:13 PM
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Without getting into plot details, how about Liberty Stands Still/Phone Booth or Overnight Delivery/Road Trip...
Old 08-19-03 | 12:46 PM
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Alice Sweet Alice and Communion. They're surprisingly have a very similar plot. Wait....
Old 08-19-03 | 12:57 PM
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Whether there are 1, 3, 7, 20, 36, 37, or some other number of basic plots is a matter of conjecture and debate. I personally do not find these schemas to be useful. It’s a little like saying there are only three primary colors.

There's more than three primary colors?
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A deadly comet/meteor hurtles through space directly at Earth.

Is it....
Spoiler:
Armageadon


or is it....
Spoiler:
Deep Impact
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Darn, I guessed
Spoiler:
Meteor
Old 08-19-03 | 01:55 PM
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A man charged with strictly enforcing the law hunts down criminals whose only crime is wanting to live, only to become a fugitive himself.

Spoiler:
BladeRunner


or

Spoiler:
Logan's Run
Old 08-19-03 | 02:23 PM
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After his family is killed, the hero leads a ragtag group of men to fight a massive empire. His two best allies are a foreigner and a tall, strong man. He falls in love with a woman the enemy believes to be on their side.

Spoiler:
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves


Spoiler:
Braveheart


Spoiler:
Gladiator
Old 08-19-03 | 02:53 PM
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Spoiler:
Girl goes off to remote location,Girl is killed,
Sister and boyfriend go looking for girl.

Psycho and Horror Hotel(both 1960, i think)
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Experienced with the ladies, one guy tries to teach his methods to a protege but finds out it's not the path to true happiness.

Spoiler:
Swingers

Spoiler:
The Tao of Steve

Spoiler:
Roger Dodger
Old 08-19-03 | 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by kenny79
Experienced with the ladies, one guy tries to teach his methods to a protege but finds out it's not the path to true happiness.

Spoiler:
Swingers

Spoiler:
The Tao of Steve

Spoiler:
Roger Dodger

Spoiler:
Deuce Bigelow, Male Gigolo


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