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Old 06-16-03, 04:20 PM
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songs that have a key/pitch/tempo change in the middle of the song

LA woman (around the 4:30 point)
stairway to heaven it goes from a slow pop accoustic song, to a rock anthem
what would you do (city high) goes toward the end of the song briefly to a dr dre sample
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Bon Jovi - Livin' on a Prayer

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - best key change EVER!

It's roof-punchingly fantastic and cheeeeeeesy
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Just about every good jam band & jazz musician.

Check out Moe., I've been studying Jazz guitar for almost 15 years, & they are the BEST modern band at drastically changing rhythems in mid-verse, although I don't think these are the kind of changes you are looking for. Phish is pretty good also, although most hate them.
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another good one sort of is the original version of "live and let die"
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Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen is the first song that came to my head.
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Practically any Mr. Bungle or Fantomas song.
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Radiohead's "Paranoid Android" has at least 3 key changes, two tempo changes, and several changes in the time signature/meter.

It's a complex song, I analyzed it for a music class in college.
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The Beatles songs "She Said She Said", "We Can Work It Out", and "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" are all excellent examples of shifts in time signature.

Songs that modulate key are a dime a dozen. It's pointless to even start mentioning them, there are so many examples.
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Most prog-metal/rock bands incorporate this into many songs.
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Originally posted by wendersfan
The Beatles songs "She Said She Said", "We Can Work It Out", and "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" are all excellent examples of shifts in time signature.

Songs that modulate key are a dime a dozen. It's pointless to even start mentioning them, there are so many examples.
And The Beatles "A Day In The Life".
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"Bring Me to Life" by Evanescence
"Total Eclipse of the Heart" by Bonnie Tyler
"It's All Coming Back to Me Now" by Celine Dion
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"The Ghost At Number One" by Jellyfish.

Starts off with a driving rock guitar, the verses are rock tempo, the chorus is almost 70's pop (complete with what sounds like a harpsichord) and then in the middle of the song there's a great 3 or 4 part harmony that sounds almost exactly like the Beach Boys.
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About a 100 different Rush songs.

Limelight comes to mind....7/8, 3/4, 6/8, 4/4...etc
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Originally posted by redhenry
And The Beatles "A Day In The Life".
I was listening to Mott the Hoople's "All the Young Dudes" this morning and remembered that there's a tempo shift coming out of the chorus into the verse.

Also, "Tattooed Love Boys" by Pretenders alternates between verses in 15/8 and a chorus that's in 4/4. Or, another way of looking at it is that the verses have alternating bars of 7/8 and 8/8, but it all works out the same.

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Maybe doesn't count, since it could be thought of as two songs, but I think there's more than 2 changes so:

Paul McCartney - Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
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pssssst...





...psssssssssssst...







...TOOL.
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Well, my first song choice was taken, Radiohead's "Paranoid Android" immediately sprang to mind.

Any prog-rock and prog-metal bands like Rush, King Crimson, Tool, Dream Theater.

I guess a better question would be are there many Top 40 pop songs that change key, pitch and/or tempo? Or is that too confusing to the masses who consume such music?
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Originally posted by RevLiver
Or is that too confusing to the masses who consume such music?


That reminds me when I used to be in a funk band. Everyone would be dancing and just for fun in the middle of the song the drummer would change the downbeat to the second beat of the measure...about 99% of the dancers would just totally lose it. It would actually make us laugh out loud on stage. We didn't even change time signature and it melted their faces.

Sorry...good memory flashback.
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Almost all Iron Maiden songs

In fact, I wish they would do more songs that stay heavy and SLOW. But the young white kids like it fast too...oh well. When in Rome...
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Most songs by Naked City. 30 second long jazzcore songs that go all over the place (different tempos,genres, you name it). Insane stuff but not recommended for most tastes. (but I like 'em )
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The Beach Boys' "Good Vibrations" suddenly sprang to mind with time signatures.

I think it goes from 4/4 to 6/8 (or the other way around, it's been a while since I've heard it).

If you want to read a book that talks about the more technical side of rock music with it's history, I'd recommend "Rock and Roll: It's History and Stylistic Development" by Stuessy and Lipscomb. I used it as a textbook in a Rock class I took in college, and it's surprisingly good in talking about technical aspects of the music.
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Originally posted by gilbertr76
pssssst...





...psssssssssssst...







...TOOL.
Does anyone think Tool is a radio friendly version of DT?
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Does anyone think Tool is a radio friendly version of DT?
Nope. DT wishes they could be as good as Tool.
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Originally posted by evenflowddt
Nope. DT wishes they could be as good as Tool.
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Originally posted by evenflowddt
Nope. DT wishes they could be as good as Tool.
Yeah, its gotta be tough ending every song in your cateloge the same exact way...

duh-duh, duh-duh, duh-duh...etc.




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