Who Framed Roger Rabbit censorship question
12-26-02, 10:53 PM
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit censorship question
It is known that the LD is not censored, but what about the VHS version? How is that censored in relation to the LD? Cause I’m considering trying to get the VHS version transferred to DVD in the event that the upcoming DVD will be censored.
12-26-02, 11:45 PM
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The reason it's a LD thing is because of three little letters CAV. I believe on VHS it went by to fast for you to even notice or do anything about it to stop it where as in the CAV you could go frame by frame.
LD still has some stuff cut out of it that were a little edgy. Also, I wouldn't consider it Censorship because no one Made Disney remove the scenes they did.
LD still has some stuff cut out of it that were a little edgy. Also, I wouldn't consider it Censorship because no one Made Disney remove the scenes they did.
12-27-02, 07:19 AM
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Jesus Christ people. Go to www.google.com and do a search on NAKED JESSICA RABBIT PICS, get your fix and stop whining about a FRAME of animation. Nothing in this movie was changed that affected the movie.
I cry..
I cry..
12-27-02, 07:29 AM
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Re: Who Framed Roger Rabbit censorship question
Originally posted by Class316
It is known that the LD is not censored, but what about the VHS version? How is that censored in relation to the LD? Cause I’m considering trying to get the VHS version transferred to DVD in the event that the upcoming DVD will be censored.
It is known that the LD is not censored, but what about the VHS version? How is that censored in relation to the LD? Cause I’m considering trying to get the VHS version transferred to DVD in the event that the upcoming DVD will be censored.
....I can't even imagine what your reaction would be to any Betty Boop releases.
This is kinky....
12-27-02, 09:09 AM
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12-27-02, 09:13 AM
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You can't even tell the difference betwen the "censored" and the "uncut" version unless you are going through frame by frame. It doesn't change the plot of the movie in any way.
12-27-02, 10:58 AM
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I think the only "real" change ever made to this movie was the scene in the beginning where Baby Herman puts his hand up a woman's skirt. And to be honest, if that is going to affect you buying the DVD, then you're better off without it. The rest of us will be happily entertained by this wonderful movie.
12-27-02, 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by pixyboi
I think the only "real" change ever made to this movie was the scene in the beginning where Baby Herman puts his hand up a woman's skirt.
I think the only "real" change ever made to this movie was the scene in the beginning where Baby Herman puts his hand up a woman's skirt.
12-27-02, 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by Groucho
And if you read the Snopes link, that was never changed (at least for video...I don't know about television broadcasts).
And if you read the Snopes link, that was never changed (at least for video...I don't know about television broadcasts).
12-27-02, 01:17 PM
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here's something
more @ http://us.imdb.com/AlternateVersions?0096438
Damn I hope the upcoming DVD isn't butchered
Some versions, including the television version shown on Fox, have an extra scene: Eddie Valiant had gone into Toontown, ambushed by the weasels and had a pig's head ``tooned'' onto his. He went home and took a shower during which Jessica walks into his apartment.
In the broadcast TV version, Baby Herman laments "I got a 50-year-old lust in a 3-year-old body" instead of the original "I got a 50-year-old lust in a 3-year-old's dinky" though the original line was heard in TV commercials for the film's theatrical release
When Eddie Valiant approached a gorilla, who was guarding the enterance door of a lounge, he said, "Nice monky suit." Then the gorilla responds, "Wise ass." On TV, the line was changed to "Wise guy", to make it more appropriate. The change was pretty noticeable, because the new voice was different from the gorilla's original voice.
There is a scene in the movie that was seen in the television versions and is cut out of the video version. Eddie Valiant attempts to break into Jessica Rabbit's dressing room and encounters an angry Judge Doom and Gorilla.
Damn I hope the upcoming DVD isn't butchered
12-27-02, 01:22 PM
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None of those changes you listed have anything to do with "censoring" the video release of the film. They are about changes made to the television release. If you are going to label every film where the television version is different than the home video version as "censored" on home video, you're going to have a pretty long list.
12-27-02, 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
None of those changes you listed have anything to do with "censoring" the video release of the film. They are about changes made to the television release.
None of those changes you listed have anything to do with "censoring" the video release of the film. They are about changes made to the television release.
It’s really sad that with DVDs we have to worry about censorship. We're supposed to BUY those and they censor them????
12-27-02, 03:52 PM
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uh.. please do what some said above and LOOK UP CENSORSHIP. You are using it when it's not suppose to be used.
Today's over used word of the day is CENSORSHIP.
Today's over used word of the day is CENSORSHIP.
12-27-02, 03:52 PM
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Well, you could make that argument about every DVD that's released. "What IF this is censored?" Let's wait and see IF the disc is actually cut in someway before we get all excited, mmm'kay?
12-27-02, 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Jackskeleton
uh.. please do what some said above and LOOK UP CENSORSHIP. You are using it when it's not suppose to be used.
Today's over used word of the day is CENSORSHIP.
uh.. please do what some said above and LOOK UP CENSORSHIP. You are using it when it's not suppose to be used.
Today's over used word of the day is CENSORSHIP.
Originally posted by Groucho
Well, you could make that argument about every DVD that's released. "What IF this is censored?" Let's wait and see IF the disc is actually cut in someway before we get all excited, mmm'kay?
Well, you could make that argument about every DVD that's released. "What IF this is censored?" Let's wait and see IF the disc is actually cut in someway before we get all excited, mmm'kay?
12-27-02, 04:39 PM
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OK, you want to see this woman naked?
OK, you want to see this woman naked?
Well the pictures small but the lady in red looks pretty attractive
Or is there something i'm missing here?
12-27-02, 04:50 PM
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WFRR was not censored on dvd once, it just got a bad treatment in transfer and extra's. Besides being totally barebones it's still watchable. Further more, it's not censored, it's edited by the choice of the makers. No Government came in and DEMANDED disney to change it. they changed it on their own.
By your account on what is censored and what isn't EVERY MOVIE ever made would be considered "CENSORED" simply because and Editer came in and did what he is suppose to do, Edit the film in the way the studio/creator Wanted it to be edited. No one forced Disney to make the changes to the movie. It's like saying Lucas Censored himself by removing the line where Luke yells out "CARRIE" in ANH. it's not called censorship, it shouldn't even be considered censorship. The misuse of the word censorship by bands, televisions, movies and more cheapens the words power and meaning.
Frankly, this is not any sort of case on censorship but a choice made by the studio (and yes, a movie is Owned by a studio, I don't care what right a director should have, once they make a contract with a studio, it's both their movies) to edit out scenes they felt needed to be removed.
Disney in the same token did not CENSOR song of the south, they just don't wish to release it because of certain issues they have with it and how they don't want to DISNEY name attached to such controversy. Now saying WHO FRAME ROGER RABBIT is censored is like saying "Rescuers" was censored when they removed the scene that showed a nude lady in the window. It's not censorship, it shouldn't be considered censorship.
Further more, this does nothing to ruin the plot/story/film of who framed roger rabbit so why even care?
By your account on what is censored and what isn't EVERY MOVIE ever made would be considered "CENSORED" simply because and Editer came in and did what he is suppose to do, Edit the film in the way the studio/creator Wanted it to be edited. No one forced Disney to make the changes to the movie. It's like saying Lucas Censored himself by removing the line where Luke yells out "CARRIE" in ANH. it's not called censorship, it shouldn't even be considered censorship. The misuse of the word censorship by bands, televisions, movies and more cheapens the words power and meaning.
Frankly, this is not any sort of case on censorship but a choice made by the studio (and yes, a movie is Owned by a studio, I don't care what right a director should have, once they make a contract with a studio, it's both their movies) to edit out scenes they felt needed to be removed.
Disney in the same token did not CENSOR song of the south, they just don't wish to release it because of certain issues they have with it and how they don't want to DISNEY name attached to such controversy. Now saying WHO FRAME ROGER RABBIT is censored is like saying "Rescuers" was censored when they removed the scene that showed a nude lady in the window. It's not censorship, it shouldn't be considered censorship.
Further more, this does nothing to ruin the plot/story/film of who framed roger rabbit so why even care?
12-27-02, 04:54 PM
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Jack, I was going to put you my ignore list after learning that you hated Punch-Drunk Love, but your wise words on the subject of censorship stayed my hand.
12-27-02, 05:35 PM
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Disney censoring cartoons by is censorship. Not government imposed censorship, but censorship no less! Just like digitally masking sex scenes in Eyes Wide Shut is censorship!
Now in cases like taking out a nude picture is The Rescuers or that “take off clothes” line in Aladdin or Luke yelling “Carrie” that’s not the same thing. Just taking out stuff that’s not supposed to be there. Now editing sex scenes, dialog or racial slurs that are actually supposed to be there that’s censorship (Regardless of it effecting the plot or not)
Now in cases like taking out a nude picture is The Rescuers or that “take off clothes” line in Aladdin or Luke yelling “Carrie” that’s not the same thing. Just taking out stuff that’s not supposed to be there. Now editing sex scenes, dialog or racial slurs that are actually supposed to be there that’s censorship (Regardless of it effecting the plot or not)
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