Michael Moore Gets World's Biggest Bonner
12-09-02, 05:11 PM
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Michael Moore Gets World's Biggest Bonner
In a story distributed to the press with little purpose other than to put the filmmaker in the limelight so he gets an Oscar nomination:
Bowling for Columbine director Michael Moore has received a death threat from a British neo-Nazi group, Combat 18, while appearing at a London theater, the London Sunday Times reported. Scotland Yard has confirmed that it is investigating a letter sent to Moore from the group, which sometimes calls itself C18. Moore found the letter -- which stated, "Moore, you're going to be shot. (s) C18" -- in his dressing room at the Roundhouse in Camden, north London.
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12-09-02, 07:08 PM
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Re: Michael Moore Gets World's Biggest Bonner
Originally posted by Pants
In a story distributed to the press with little purpose other than to put the filmmaker in the limelight so he gets an Oscar nomination:
In a story distributed to the press with little purpose other than to put the filmmaker in the limelight so he gets an Oscar nomination:
The categories BFC will most likely be nominated always have sparse choices to begin with, and a relatively high profile person like Moore is a shoe in for a nomination. It's no different than Pixar being nominated for (and usually winning) best animated short every year.
12-09-02, 10:27 PM
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Heh, I hear gun nuts all the time saying they want to kill him.
Besides, he doesn't need any press, who are they going to nominate over him? there aren't exactly hundreds of popular documentries out there.
Besides, he doesn't need any press, who are they going to nominate over him? there aren't exactly hundreds of popular documentries out there.
12-09-02, 11:41 PM
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Re: Michael Moore Gets World's Biggest Bonner
Originally posted by Pants
In a story distributed to the press with little purpose other than to put the filmmaker in the limelight so he gets an Oscar nomination:
In a story distributed to the press with little purpose other than to put the filmmaker in the limelight so he gets an Oscar nomination:
I mean puh-leeze....so is this all part of that vast left-wing Scottish conspiracy?!!??!?!
12-10-02, 12:23 AM
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What irony that would be for Michael Moore to die by the bullet.
Oh, I thought the thread title was a misspelling of the word "bonnet" and took it to mean Mr. Moore just got a new hat.
12-10-02, 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by DeputyDave
But England doesn't have a gun problem.
But England doesn't have a gun problem.
12-10-02, 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by BizRodian
Besides, he doesn't need any press, who are they going to nominate over him? there aren't exactly hundreds of popular documentries out there.
Besides, he doesn't need any press, who are they going to nominate over him? there aren't exactly hundreds of popular documentries out there.
12-10-02, 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by DeputyDave
But England doesn't have a gun problem.
But England doesn't have a gun problem.
According to the Metropolitan Police's own predictions, 2002 is set to see another massive rise in shootings, murders and attempted murders as a small number of gangs wield an enormous and terrifying sway in pockets of the capital.
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2246966.stm
12-10-02, 11:43 AM
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A successful documentary is the "kiss of death" for the Oscars. If your documentary makes money, gets critical acclaim, and is seen by more than a handful of people you can forget about a nomination. Roger and Me, Hoop Dreams, etc. If you want to win the Oscar for Best Documentary make sure:
1. Nobody sees it.
2. It's about the Holocaust.
1. Nobody sees it.
2. It's about the Holocaust.
12-10-02, 12:02 PM
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Also, Crumb wasn't nominated.
And Moore making an anti-gun movie, then being threatened by gun violence isn't ironic. That's like (and I'm just comparing situations, not the people involved) saying it's ironic that Martin Luther King Jr. fought for civil rights, only to be killed by a racist.
And Moore making an anti-gun movie, then being threatened by gun violence isn't ironic. That's like (and I'm just comparing situations, not the people involved) saying it's ironic that Martin Luther King Jr. fought for civil rights, only to be killed by a racist.
12-10-02, 12:17 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
A successful documentary is the "kiss of death" for the Oscars. If your documentary makes money, gets critical acclaim, and is seen by more than a handful of people you can forget about a nomination. Roger and Me, Hoop Dreams, etc. If you want to win the Oscar for Best Documentary make sure:
1. Nobody sees it.
2. It's about the Holocaust.
A successful documentary is the "kiss of death" for the Oscars. If your documentary makes money, gets critical acclaim, and is seen by more than a handful of people you can forget about a nomination. Roger and Me, Hoop Dreams, etc. If you want to win the Oscar for Best Documentary make sure:
1. Nobody sees it.
2. It's about the Holocaust.
12-10-02, 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Pants
Are the academy voters in the doc catagory jealous of success or something?
Are the academy voters in the doc catagory jealous of success or something?
Another trend with the Academy Awards is to weigh subject matter over actual artistic merit. So, if you make a great documentary about kids playing basketball, I can trump you anytime I want with my documentary about the Holocaust…regardless of its quality. This happens in all categories, of course, not just Best Documentary.
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You may be right, but this perception of artistic integrety runs 180 degrees of the rest of the accademy which frequently rewards "sell outs".
I would tend to feel your second point is the more likely, that they don't judge the movie by its "filmic" merits, but by its subject. Therefore, the best doc ever made about a comic book artist would lose to the worst Holocaust doc ever made.
I would tend to feel your second point is the more likely, that they don't judge the movie by its "filmic" merits, but by its subject. Therefore, the best doc ever made about a comic book artist would lose to the worst Holocaust doc ever made.
12-10-02, 12:54 PM
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Pants, you made a very good point. I think that a stunt like you suggested wouldn't make any difference to that and so still say that it would be pointless to make one.
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Originally posted by BizRodian
Pants, you made a very good point. I think that a stunt like you suggested wouldn't make any difference to that and so still say that it would be pointless to make one.
Pants, you made a very good point. I think that a stunt like you suggested wouldn't make any difference to that and so still say that it would be pointless to make one.
On another note, I do believe this film will get a nomination because, like I said, in the eyes of the acadamy, the subject of the film will merit it a nom.
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12-10-02, 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by majorjoe23
Also, Crumb wasn't nominated.
And Moore making an anti-gun movie, then being threatened by gun violence isn't ironic. That's like (and I'm just comparing situations, not the people involved) saying it's ironic that Martin Luther King Jr. fought for civil rights, only to be killed by a racist.
Also, Crumb wasn't nominated.
And Moore making an anti-gun movie, then being threatened by gun violence isn't ironic. That's like (and I'm just comparing situations, not the people involved) saying it's ironic that Martin Luther King Jr. fought for civil rights, only to be killed by a racist.