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My review
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MINORITY REPORT
The Movie
Minority Report, to me, is Spielberg's best film, in addition is Tom Cruise's best film. What isn't this film missing that makes great films? Acting? Check, and damn fine performances. Everyone in this film plays their roles very well. Character development? Yup, that's here as well. Plot? That's also among the non-absent.
The year is 2054 and murder is stopped before it can happen, thanks to the Pre-Cognitives, or "Pre-Cogs". Pre-Crime Cop John Anderton is acused of a murder he's to commit in "less that 36 hours." Anderton sets out to prove his innocence, and in the mean time, we are presented a grand piece of cinema. The future perceived here isn't too far away. No question this was the best film of the summer, and I think it's second best of the year, next to Two Towers. Kudos to Spielberg, ILM, Tom Cruise, and the entire cast and crew of this film. Your work sure as hell paid off.
10 out of 10
The Video
This was my first time encountering the 2.39:1 ratio and what is known as the "Kaminski Effect". And I must say, both didn't bother me one bit. Yeah, this transfer is a bit grainy, but as Spielberg says on Disc 2, it's supposed to look like that. The colors are handled very well and the darks are handled even better. That's good, considering most this film has many a dark spots. As for the "Kaminski Effect", I thought it made the film shine on DVD. But like I've said, maybe I'm just blind.
9 out of 10
The Audio
Need a DVD to show off your new sound system, but your pal or gal doesn't want to hear the horrid dialoge of Episode II or sit through Fellowship for over 3 hours. Then Minority Report is your ticket. The "sonic-shotgun" scene sounds amazing, as does the "MagLev" and every other scene here. John Williams score is as powerful as ever, and dialoge is clear as a whistle. Nice job DreamWorks. Minority Report is presented in DTS 5.1 Surrond and Dobly Digital 5.1 and 2.0 Surrond.
10 out of 10
The Extras
Here is where I didn't expect much on this DVD, and I would have been happy with just an awesome presentation. Then I actually popped in disc 2 and was very impressed with the features. "From Story to Screen" is the first up, and features two sub-menus, "The Story: The Debate" and "The Players". The first is a great featurette on how the script guys adapted the short story. "The Players" features all the cast talking about their specific roles. Our next sub-menu is "Deconstructing Minority Report" and goes in-depth to how aspects of the films came to be. First up here is "The World Of Minority Report-An Introduction" features Sir Stevie discussing the gathering of scientists and futurists to get the movie to look like our world will in 52 years. Also mentioned here is how the film has the "washed out" look. John Williams has some interesting comments here for us as well. "Precrime and Precogs" is next, and gives us look at the development of the Precrime station. It then moves on to tell us how the Precogs were designed, and ends with Spielberg explaining the development and works of all the sweet gadgets in the film(i.e. - the jetpack and the sonic shotgun). "The Spyder Sequence" is next, and is a great featurette on how that scene came to be. The featurette boasts a nice breakdown of the sequence and shows CGI shots of when the spyders where in development. John Williams gives us insight on why he made the music like he did. Kaminski also goes into how he handled the overhead shots, and how challenging they were to get done. "Precog Visions" goes on to tell us how the Precog murder visions where done, a la Imaginary Forces(who did the best opening credits ever, Seven). The final featurette here is "Vehicles of the Future" and tells all about vehicles in the film. We see early MagLev CGI and designs of those cars. You then see concept art, early CGI, and behind-the-scenes footage. The next section is "The Stunts of Minority Report", and it covers "The MagLev Escape", "Hovercraft Chase", and "Car Factory". All three feature excellent depictions of their scenes and are worthy of a look. Next sub-menu is "ILM and Minority Report" and it kicks off with "An Introduction". Here we learn Tom Cruise had to act against something that wasn't there and ILM geeks tell us Spielberg always had insight to the effects. "Holograms" hits first, and covers how John's holograms of Lara and Sean came to be. Here, ILM tells how they had difficulty creating the effect. Next is "Hall of Containment", and shows how that wild, but cool sequence came to be. We move on to "Hovercraft & Hoverpacks" that gives a nice view on how the Hovercraft was made, as well as the Hoverpacks used in the "chase" sequence. Pretty much all you see is real, but they tell how ILM added the backgrounds. "Cyber-Parlor" is last, and shows us how actors were filmed in front a green screen, then placed digitally back with the actors who were in the parlor. "Final Report" is a discussion with Spielberg and Cruise on their expirence working with each other and closes with the DVD credits. Nice way to end these featurettes. The next menu is "Archives" and kicks off with "Production Concepts". Here we see galleries of art for the following: "Precrime", "Hovership", "Hoversuit", "Hall of Containment", "Spyders", "Precog", "Cyberparlor", "Buildings and Architecture", "Roadway Systems", "Vehicles", "City Apartment", "Greenhouse Plants", and "Objects". Storyboards for the "MagLev Sequence", "Alley Chase", and "Car Factory". Next here are "Storyboard Sequences" and it shows storyboards for "MagLev Sequence", "Alley Chase", and "Car Factory". Some of the art here is pretty nice. Following are "Trailers" which has the movie trailers and Activision Game trailer, "Cast" is info on them, as is "Filmakers" and "Production Notes" is exactly that. Special mention to the menus, which are very, very kickass. A commentary is absent, but these features all but make up for it. I want to give this part a 10, but I feel the animatics that were on the website should have been included. So, as much as it will pain me, I have to go with a 9.
9 out of 10
Overall
The movie is still one of my favorites of the year, and the DVD is one of my faves as well. The presentation is awesome, and the extras are better than I expected. I dunno what else to say here except you need to pick this set up. Since our BTTF DVDs are screwed, take your $40 and get this. Not only do you save $20, but you get a damn nice DVD as well. Highly, highly recommended.
DVD Overall Rating - 9.5
MINORITY REPORT
The Movie
Minority Report, to me, is Spielberg's best film, in addition is Tom Cruise's best film. What isn't this film missing that makes great films? Acting? Check, and damn fine performances. Everyone in this film plays their roles very well. Character development? Yup, that's here as well. Plot? That's also among the non-absent.
The year is 2054 and murder is stopped before it can happen, thanks to the Pre-Cognitives, or "Pre-Cogs". Pre-Crime Cop John Anderton is acused of a murder he's to commit in "less that 36 hours." Anderton sets out to prove his innocence, and in the mean time, we are presented a grand piece of cinema. The future perceived here isn't too far away. No question this was the best film of the summer, and I think it's second best of the year, next to Two Towers. Kudos to Spielberg, ILM, Tom Cruise, and the entire cast and crew of this film. Your work sure as hell paid off.
10 out of 10
The Video
This was my first time encountering the 2.39:1 ratio and what is known as the "Kaminski Effect". And I must say, both didn't bother me one bit. Yeah, this transfer is a bit grainy, but as Spielberg says on Disc 2, it's supposed to look like that. The colors are handled very well and the darks are handled even better. That's good, considering most this film has many a dark spots. As for the "Kaminski Effect", I thought it made the film shine on DVD. But like I've said, maybe I'm just blind.
9 out of 10
The Audio
Need a DVD to show off your new sound system, but your pal or gal doesn't want to hear the horrid dialoge of Episode II or sit through Fellowship for over 3 hours. Then Minority Report is your ticket. The "sonic-shotgun" scene sounds amazing, as does the "MagLev" and every other scene here. John Williams score is as powerful as ever, and dialoge is clear as a whistle. Nice job DreamWorks. Minority Report is presented in DTS 5.1 Surrond and Dobly Digital 5.1 and 2.0 Surrond.
10 out of 10
The Extras
Here is where I didn't expect much on this DVD, and I would have been happy with just an awesome presentation. Then I actually popped in disc 2 and was very impressed with the features. "From Story to Screen" is the first up, and features two sub-menus, "The Story: The Debate" and "The Players". The first is a great featurette on how the script guys adapted the short story. "The Players" features all the cast talking about their specific roles. Our next sub-menu is "Deconstructing Minority Report" and goes in-depth to how aspects of the films came to be. First up here is "The World Of Minority Report-An Introduction" features Sir Stevie discussing the gathering of scientists and futurists to get the movie to look like our world will in 52 years. Also mentioned here is how the film has the "washed out" look. John Williams has some interesting comments here for us as well. "Precrime and Precogs" is next, and gives us look at the development of the Precrime station. It then moves on to tell us how the Precogs were designed, and ends with Spielberg explaining the development and works of all the sweet gadgets in the film(i.e. - the jetpack and the sonic shotgun). "The Spyder Sequence" is next, and is a great featurette on how that scene came to be. The featurette boasts a nice breakdown of the sequence and shows CGI shots of when the spyders where in development. John Williams gives us insight on why he made the music like he did. Kaminski also goes into how he handled the overhead shots, and how challenging they were to get done. "Precog Visions" goes on to tell us how the Precog murder visions where done, a la Imaginary Forces(who did the best opening credits ever, Seven). The final featurette here is "Vehicles of the Future" and tells all about vehicles in the film. We see early MagLev CGI and designs of those cars. You then see concept art, early CGI, and behind-the-scenes footage. The next section is "The Stunts of Minority Report", and it covers "The MagLev Escape", "Hovercraft Chase", and "Car Factory". All three feature excellent depictions of their scenes and are worthy of a look. Next sub-menu is "ILM and Minority Report" and it kicks off with "An Introduction". Here we learn Tom Cruise had to act against something that wasn't there and ILM geeks tell us Spielberg always had insight to the effects. "Holograms" hits first, and covers how John's holograms of Lara and Sean came to be. Here, ILM tells how they had difficulty creating the effect. Next is "Hall of Containment", and shows how that wild, but cool sequence came to be. We move on to "Hovercraft & Hoverpacks" that gives a nice view on how the Hovercraft was made, as well as the Hoverpacks used in the "chase" sequence. Pretty much all you see is real, but they tell how ILM added the backgrounds. "Cyber-Parlor" is last, and shows us how actors were filmed in front a green screen, then placed digitally back with the actors who were in the parlor. "Final Report" is a discussion with Spielberg and Cruise on their expirence working with each other and closes with the DVD credits. Nice way to end these featurettes. The next menu is "Archives" and kicks off with "Production Concepts". Here we see galleries of art for the following: "Precrime", "Hovership", "Hoversuit", "Hall of Containment", "Spyders", "Precog", "Cyberparlor", "Buildings and Architecture", "Roadway Systems", "Vehicles", "City Apartment", "Greenhouse Plants", and "Objects". Storyboards for the "MagLev Sequence", "Alley Chase", and "Car Factory". Next here are "Storyboard Sequences" and it shows storyboards for "MagLev Sequence", "Alley Chase", and "Car Factory". Some of the art here is pretty nice. Following are "Trailers" which has the movie trailers and Activision Game trailer, "Cast" is info on them, as is "Filmakers" and "Production Notes" is exactly that. Special mention to the menus, which are very, very kickass. A commentary is absent, but these features all but make up for it. I want to give this part a 10, but I feel the animatics that were on the website should have been included. So, as much as it will pain me, I have to go with a 9.
9 out of 10
Overall
The movie is still one of my favorites of the year, and the DVD is one of my faves as well. The presentation is awesome, and the extras are better than I expected. I dunno what else to say here except you need to pick this set up. Since our BTTF DVDs are screwed, take your $40 and get this. Not only do you save $20, but you get a damn nice DVD as well. Highly, highly recommended.
DVD Overall Rating - 9.5
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Kaminski effect is?
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Well, this is my first post here. Tell me if you guys like this or not.
This was my first time encountering the 2.39:1 ratio and what is known as the "Kaminski Effect".
Well, this is my first post here. Tell me if you guys like this or not.
This was my first time encountering the 2.39:1 ratio and what is known as the "Kaminski Effect".
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Voila, do a google search and look at what you can get:
http://www.cameraguild.com/awards/kaminski.html
or for those who don't want to follow the link:
http://www.cameraguild.com/awards/kaminski.html
or for those who don't want to follow the link:
"Those who think cinematography is simply the mechanical act of capturing an image on film have never spoken with a cinematographer. Or more precisely, a cinematographer with heart," said two time Oscar winning cinematographer, Janusz Kaminski, ASC.
Kaminski came to America from his native Poland in the 1980s. His association with Steven Spielberg began after the 1989 airing of Wildflower, a Lifetime television movie he photographed for Diane Keaton. Spielberg hired him to shoot the television production Class of '61. Since then he has added to his list of credits the Oscar-winning Schindler's List, The Adventures of Huck Finn, Tall Tale, Little Giants, How to Make and American Quilt, Jerry Maguire, the Oscar-nominated Amistad and The Lost World.
Kaminski's collaboration with Spielberg on Saving Private Ryan included discovering different visual textures with an imaginative mix of camera films, lab processes and specialized techniques, such as "deconstruction of the slickness that you usually get with modern lenses" – in Spielberg's words.
Kaminski achieved that look by stripping the coatings off the lenses. He also flashed the film and used the Technicolor ENR process to alter contrast. Spielberg wanted deeply saturated colors, an idea he attributes to watching 16mm Signal Corps Ekatachrome footage documenting the invasion of France by the Allies.
"We wanted to create the illusion that there were several combat cameramen landing with the troops at Normandy," Kaminski said in an American Cinematographer interview. "… We succeeded in emulating the look of that footage for the invasion scenes… with both camera tricks and other technological means."
Lenses in 1940 were technically inferior to today's, so Kaminski had a set of older Ultra- speeds stripped of their protective coatings to emulate the look of 50 years ago.
"Interestingly, when we analyzed the lenses, the focus and sharpness didn't change very much, though there was some deterioration; what really changed was the contrast and color rendering. The contrast became much flatter. Without the coatings, the light enters the lens and bounces all around, so the images become kind of foggy but still sharp. Also, it's much easier to get flares, which automatically diffuses the light and the colors to a degree and lends a little haze to the image."
Kaminski would often mismatch the lenses if he had two cameras running, using one with coated Ultra-speeds and one with stripped lenses. That lent a certain lack of continuity in picture quality, suggesting an appropriate disjointedness.
Kaminski and his crew shot many feet of film with the camera shutter set at 45 or 90 degrees, a technique that was especially effective in filming explosions. Every particle of blasted sand seems to be visible. The idea, which was born in pre-production testing, helped to create a sense of reality and urgency.
Another technique was borrowed from cinematographer Douglas Milsome, BSC, who also used it in an epic war film, Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. The camera's shutter is thrown out of sync to create a streaking effect from the top of the frame to the bottom. It's another way to enhance realism by giving the images the less-than-perfectly controlled look of actual battle footage.
Kaminski, who recently completed his directorial debut for New Line Cinemas—the supernatural thriller, Lost Souls, said he hopes to now switch between directing and being a director of photography.
Next Kaminski is going to partner up with Spielberg again in the shooting of Minority Report starring Tom Cruise and Bill Condon.
Kaminski graduated from Columbia College in Chicago, then went on to the American Film Institute in Washington, D.C. He is married to actress Holly Hunter.
Kaminski came to America from his native Poland in the 1980s. His association with Steven Spielberg began after the 1989 airing of Wildflower, a Lifetime television movie he photographed for Diane Keaton. Spielberg hired him to shoot the television production Class of '61. Since then he has added to his list of credits the Oscar-winning Schindler's List, The Adventures of Huck Finn, Tall Tale, Little Giants, How to Make and American Quilt, Jerry Maguire, the Oscar-nominated Amistad and The Lost World.
Kaminski's collaboration with Spielberg on Saving Private Ryan included discovering different visual textures with an imaginative mix of camera films, lab processes and specialized techniques, such as "deconstruction of the slickness that you usually get with modern lenses" – in Spielberg's words.
Kaminski achieved that look by stripping the coatings off the lenses. He also flashed the film and used the Technicolor ENR process to alter contrast. Spielberg wanted deeply saturated colors, an idea he attributes to watching 16mm Signal Corps Ekatachrome footage documenting the invasion of France by the Allies.
"We wanted to create the illusion that there were several combat cameramen landing with the troops at Normandy," Kaminski said in an American Cinematographer interview. "… We succeeded in emulating the look of that footage for the invasion scenes… with both camera tricks and other technological means."
Lenses in 1940 were technically inferior to today's, so Kaminski had a set of older Ultra- speeds stripped of their protective coatings to emulate the look of 50 years ago.
"Interestingly, when we analyzed the lenses, the focus and sharpness didn't change very much, though there was some deterioration; what really changed was the contrast and color rendering. The contrast became much flatter. Without the coatings, the light enters the lens and bounces all around, so the images become kind of foggy but still sharp. Also, it's much easier to get flares, which automatically diffuses the light and the colors to a degree and lends a little haze to the image."
Kaminski would often mismatch the lenses if he had two cameras running, using one with coated Ultra-speeds and one with stripped lenses. That lent a certain lack of continuity in picture quality, suggesting an appropriate disjointedness.
Kaminski and his crew shot many feet of film with the camera shutter set at 45 or 90 degrees, a technique that was especially effective in filming explosions. Every particle of blasted sand seems to be visible. The idea, which was born in pre-production testing, helped to create a sense of reality and urgency.
Another technique was borrowed from cinematographer Douglas Milsome, BSC, who also used it in an epic war film, Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket. The camera's shutter is thrown out of sync to create a streaking effect from the top of the frame to the bottom. It's another way to enhance realism by giving the images the less-than-perfectly controlled look of actual battle footage.
Kaminski, who recently completed his directorial debut for New Line Cinemas—the supernatural thriller, Lost Souls, said he hopes to now switch between directing and being a director of photography.
Next Kaminski is going to partner up with Spielberg again in the shooting of Minority Report starring Tom Cruise and Bill Condon.
Kaminski graduated from Columbia College in Chicago, then went on to the American Film Institute in Washington, D.C. He is married to actress Holly Hunter.
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Rented it and watched on Christmas night.
Much better than I thought it would be. I guess about 75% of the plot (I do that to most thrillers), but it was really cool movie.
Great rental, very good buy if you find a good deal ($13 or below).
Much better than I thought it would be. I guess about 75% of the plot (I do that to most thrillers), but it was really cool movie.
Great rental, very good buy if you find a good deal ($13 or below).
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Maybe it's just me, but the "extras" on disc two seemed light and promotional in nature.
When you compare them to really good docs, such as "The Beginning" on the Phantom Menace DVD, or the new touchstone LOTR:TFOTR:EE 2-disc 6-hour documentary, well, the Minority Report extras seem a bit anemic.
The ILM bits were interesting but not in-depth (compare with the extras even on Jurassic Park, for instance), the interviews were short and self-congratulatory (or Cruise complimenting Spielberg, and vice versa), and overall the entire second disc felt like a long commercial.
I wish they went a little deeper into the aspects of the story and characters. I would've liked to have *seen* the "brain trust" they interviewed to discuss the future technology, and it would have been really nice to have spent more time with the underrated Kaminski.
It's a shame, because this film is an instant-classic, and deserves better, IMHBAO.
I've already *bought* the disc. I don't need to be sold on it. You had me at "hello."
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When you compare them to really good docs, such as "The Beginning" on the Phantom Menace DVD, or the new touchstone LOTR:TFOTR:EE 2-disc 6-hour documentary, well, the Minority Report extras seem a bit anemic.
The ILM bits were interesting but not in-depth (compare with the extras even on Jurassic Park, for instance), the interviews were short and self-congratulatory (or Cruise complimenting Spielberg, and vice versa), and overall the entire second disc felt like a long commercial.
I wish they went a little deeper into the aspects of the story and characters. I would've liked to have *seen* the "brain trust" they interviewed to discuss the future technology, and it would have been really nice to have spent more time with the underrated Kaminski.
It's a shame, because this film is an instant-classic, and deserves better, IMHBAO.
I've already *bought* the disc. I don't need to be sold on it. You had me at "hello."
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A little off topic, but I'm having the same problem as Halofan1.
There are no icons anywhere for me. I've even tried it in Netscape as well. I can't see if a thread is locked, I can't jump to the last post in a thread and I can't start a new thread. I can see the smiley faces and stuff within the text, but there is no functionality on a post either. I can't edit a post or click on someones user information. This just started about a month ago. I can't seem to fix it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
There are no icons anywhere for me. I've even tried it in Netscape as well. I can't see if a thread is locked, I can't jump to the last post in a thread and I can't start a new thread. I can see the smiley faces and stuff within the text, but there is no functionality on a post either. I can't edit a post or click on someones user information. This just started about a month ago. I can't seem to fix it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
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A little off topic, but I'm having the same problem as Halofan1.
There are no icons anywhere for me. I've even tried it in Netscape as well. I can't see if a thread is locked, I can't jump to the last post in a thread and I can't start a new thread. I can see the smiley faces and stuff within the text, but there is no functionality on a post either. I can't edit a post or click on someones user information. This just started about a month ago. I can't seem to fix it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
A little off topic, but I'm having the same problem as Halofan1.
There are no icons anywhere for me. I've even tried it in Netscape as well. I can't see if a thread is locked, I can't jump to the last post in a thread and I can't start a new thread. I can see the smiley faces and stuff within the text, but there is no functionality on a post either. I can't edit a post or click on someones user information. This just started about a month ago. I can't seem to fix it. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Wow, I didn't even know I had an ad blocker. How do I disable it? I looked under the advanced setting under internet options on IE, but didn't see anything. Please help. Thanks.
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My ad blocker blocks the ads but still lets the icons through. I think mine works by both size and type. Pretty slick, I guess. And a little annoying of the site owners, eh?
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Did we watch the same movie??
I rented this movie and thought it was ridiculous and predictable and borring!
It also had some STUPID attempts at humor:
It also had plot holes and dead ends:
and it hammerd home lots of plot that had already been revealed by other characters. There were so many "AHA! bet you didnt see that coming!" moments that of course had already been revealed in the previous scenes. The FX were old hat. Lots borrowed from Blade Runner or Fifth Element.
This movie couldnt end soon enough for me.
It also had some STUPID attempts at humor:
Spoiler:
It also had plot holes and dead ends:
Spoiler:
and it hammerd home lots of plot that had already been revealed by other characters. There were so many "AHA! bet you didnt see that coming!" moments that of course had already been revealed in the previous scenes. The FX were old hat. Lots borrowed from Blade Runner or Fifth Element.
This movie couldnt end soon enough for me.
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Well, Im not good at reviews so Im not goin to try to get indepth with one, but I did think it was a very good film. Pretty much kept me on my toes the entire time. Cruz gave a great performance. I have yet to check out the extras but will soon. It did have some ring to The Fifth Element, but only slightly due to the female cog (sp?). All in all a great film in which many of my friends enjoyed.
Actually, I did not notice any real attempts at humor, did not think they were trying to attempt any.
Save Ferris- you must have a little pre-cog in you to know what the future scenes were gonna reveal.
Actually, I did not notice any real attempts at humor, did not think they were trying to attempt any.
Save Ferris- you must have a little pre-cog in you to know what the future scenes were gonna reveal.
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It reflected Fifth Element because of the futuristic city and traffic scenes i think also.
It pounded home lots of the plot several times in case we missed it the first time
It just seemd to me several times where there was supposed to be a 'surprise' and it came off being underwhelming.
The 'humor' elements seemed to be genuine attempts at humor because (if i remember correctly) of the music cues. Check this if u have the DVD. I seem to remember cartoony 'waah waah's' and loopy music. (no really!)
o yea another plot hole:
It pounded home lots of the plot several times in case we missed it the first time
Spoiler:
The 'humor' elements seemed to be genuine attempts at humor because (if i remember correctly) of the music cues. Check this if u have the DVD. I seem to remember cartoony 'waah waah's' and loopy music. (no really!)
o yea another plot hole:
Spoiler:
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Just got my copy, it is AMAZING. I still love the movie just as much as my first viewing back in June. I checked out some of the extras, they're great as well. Still my pick for best of 2002. Highly reccomended.
And I've noticed the John Williams score much more this time, it's underrated in my opinion.
And I've noticed the John Williams score much more this time, it's underrated in my opinion.