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Old 11-20-02, 10:34 PM
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Enterprise 11/20

This is cracking me up! The whole crew (N’Pol and Porthos aside) are running high on methamphetamine. This writer has to have had lived with tweakers before. This is exact!
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I take it "tweakers" is drug slang? You learn something new every day...

As for the episode. Blah. I could bash it by saying, "TNG redid the ToS- The Naked Time in their third episode (The Naked Now) of the first season, and after 2 seasons that's the best they can do?" But I won't.
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Yeah. Tweakers refers to speed (notably meth) addicts. They do sort of "tweak"
What I'm loving is that (like Requiem for a Dream) the acting in this captures exactly how people tend to behave on this particular substance. It's so accurate that it's giving me scary flashbacks to one of my former lifestyles. Chilling! (Funny, too.)
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hmm....interesting....anyways....

I thought it was a mild formulatic show. Big surprise there. but there was more 'star trek universe' development and character development.

I'm not a military man but don't they already use a system with Red Alert? Red Alert isn't exactly copyrighted by mr. Berman. I thought that part was pretty ridiculous.

and why isn't T'Pol effected by the radiation? I mean radiation isn't exactly species specific like a virus. It basically should affect everyone in a similar way since their molecules are the same. Or is Vulcan blood and CSF made out of Lime Jello. it is green isn't it?
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Originally posted by tanman
Or is Vulcan blood and CSF made out of Lime Jello. it is green isn't it?
Copper (not iron) is their oxidizing agent. Phlox mentioned seratonin and other glandular excretions, maybe Vulcans don’t have those, but Dynobulans(sp?) do.

Seriously, what did this for me was the acting. All that was missing was a close up of their dilated pupils and the sound effect of their teeth grinding. I also liked the moral at the end. “Our obsessions brought out the best in us.”

I did do some of my best drawings and have some of my best comic book ideas back in my speed days. Problem is: You cannot sustain that level of obsessive and euphoric creativity (remaining sane and/or alive). I loved this episode for very personal reasons.

Didn’t joltaddict watch this episode? (disclaimer: only basing comments on joltaddict's own past comments.)
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This was the first episode of the season that I enjoyed! Yes, both TOS and TNG did this schtick, but it worked.

I thought Trip (what an approriate moniker this week ) was going to change the captain's chair so radically that he ended up with the Kirk Throne.

"Reed Alert"
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I wonder why they just didn't go back the way they came in at warp speed?
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I did find it a bit ironic that Malcom was a total screw-up in last week's episode, and all of a sudden he's the hero because of his tactical "genius"? Are the writers paying attention? I doubt this was intentional.

"Reid Alert", yeah, uh-huh. The term "Red Alert" existed in the military before ToS was on the air. Being that Malcom has his roots in the Royal Navy, you'ld think he'd know this. Writers are sleeping again.
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Originally posted by Kudama
Yeah. Tweakers refers to speed (notably meth) addicts. They do sort of "tweak"
Ah, that explains Tweak on South Park.
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Originally posted by tanman
I'm not a military man but don't they already use a system with Red Alert? Red Alert isn't exactly copyrighted by mr. Berman. I thought that part was pretty ridiculous.
That, and I thought it was a bit of a stretch to think that the Enterprise didn't have some sort of auto-pilot to help guide it through that asteroid field. With the advanced instrumentation on the ship, you'd think that was a no-brainer.
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I thought this episode was hilarious. I laughed through most of it. I really wanted Phlox to cut that guy's head open (i forget his name), that would have been classic.
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Originally posted by Red Dog
I wonder why they just didn't go back the way they came in at warp speed?
Well, they only needed 16 minutes or so to go thru all the crap. And, if they had done that (gone back), they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

OR! They could have gone up or down (Z-axis) and gotten out even quicker. (“Two-dimensional thinking.” ST:III) But, again, they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

See, they needed to blow stuff up.
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I liked this the other times I saw it when it was called the Naked Now and Naked Time
(I think those were the titles)
weren't both of those also due to a weird gravity area (that produced a virus instead of radiation)
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Lol. Mike, do you read the threads before you post?
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Why wasn't Porthos affected? He could have suddenly developed an affection for a particular Vulcan first officer's leg...
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Originally posted by Wizdar
Well, they only needed 16 minutes or so to go thru all the crap. And, if they had done that (gone back), they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

OR! They could have gone up or down (Z-axis) and gotten out even quicker. (“Two-dimensional thinking.” ST:III) But, again, they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

See, they needed to blow stuff up.

Not to be nitpicky (well, OK I guess I'm in a mood ) but the two dimensional thinking quote was Star Trek II, not III.

Now I must go shoot myself for picking up on that.
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Oh, damn.

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Originally posted by Wizdar
Well, they only needed 16 minutes or so to go thru all the crap. And, if they had done that (gone back), they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

OR! They could have gone up or down (Z-axis) and gotten out even quicker. (“Two-dimensional thinking.” ST:III) But, again, they wouldn’t have been able to blow stuff up.

See, they needed to blow stuff up.
Well, the radiation went out in 3-dimensions, so that wouldn't have worked.

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That, and I thought it was a bit of a stretch to think that the Enterprise didn't have some sort of auto-pilot to help guide it through that asteroid field. With the advanced instrumentation on the ship, you'd think that was a no-brainer.
That would have been too easy. Most future ships rarely used auto-pilot and I don't really recall if the TOS Enterprise had that capability (it probably didn't).

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Originally posted by Verminaard
Not to be nitpicky (well, OK I guess I'm in a mood ) but the two dimensional thinking quote was Star Trek II, not III.
Quick: what was the prefix code of the USS Reliant?

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Originally posted by Bandoman
Quick: what was the prefix code of the USS Reliant?

16309

OK, I admit I had to Google it.
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Originally posted by Verminaard
16309

OK, I admit I had to Google it.
I'm sorry, Sir, but you're disqualified from the Complete and Total Geek Award(tm) competition.
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…and thus ineligible for the complimentary bag of Bando(tm) brand Potato Chips??
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on a side note, t-pol has one hell of a nice ass.

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