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Rogue588
10-30-02, 10:56 PM
Reported on local NY ABC channel 7...

Jam Master Jay was shot dead in a recording studio in Jamaica, Queens. He and a hispanic friend were shot dead by a gunmen who walked into a room they were relaxing in and shot them both.

I'll post a link to the story as soon as it's up.

Rogue588
10-30-02, 11:17 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/wabc_103002_rundmcmemberkilled.html

Jam Master Jay Killed in Shooting
(New York-WABC, October 30, 2002) Jam Master Jay, a member of the pioneering rap group Run DMC, has been shot to death.
He was attacked at a recording studio in Queens, on Merrick Boulevard in the Jamaica section. Authorities tell Eyewitness News he and another man were sitting in a lounge next to the recording studio when someone burst in and opened fire. As of 11:00pm Wednesday, police had no one in custody in the killing.

Run DMC fans began gathering at the scene, some hugging each other and crying.

tsohg
10-30-02, 11:29 PM
Damn :( this will be another sad day to my f'ed up momemnts in hip hop :(

I'm just waiting to hear some half assed report on rap music violence and insinuate that was the cause of his death.

"The king of rappers there aint none hirer/sucka MC's should all retire." (not exact words)
R.I.P

Daryl
10-30-02, 11:45 PM
DAMN!

Man - as an "old schooler" myself - this hurts. For a lot of Run-DMC fans, it was "Hard Times" or "It's Like That" that first made them Run-DMC fans; for me it was 1984's "Jam Master Jay" that got me hooked. To this day I still rock the instrumental of that and "Peter Piper" just to hear Jay's incredible technique on the 1 and 2's.

R.I.P. J.M.J. :(

Jam Master Jay that is his name
And all wild DJ's he will tame
Behind the turntables is where he stands
Then there is the movement of his hands
So when asked who's the best, y'all should say:
"Run-D.M.C. and Jam Master Jay"

the aftermath
10-31-02, 12:19 AM
I'm speechless. Another hip-hop legend is gone. RIP Jam Master Jay. :(

HistoryProf
10-31-02, 12:21 AM
well goddamn....I be illin.....

Raising Hell was one of my favorite albums in high school....my addidas, it's tricky.....all solid gold from the, imho, best years of rap. This is just very sad :(

Thumbs
10-31-02, 12:30 AM
sad sad sad

The Edit King
10-31-02, 12:34 AM
Wasn't he a Minister?

Sad Indeed. :(

What Are DVDs
10-31-02, 12:36 AM
I just made a thread on this but deleted it after seeing this one open....here's what i got

We regret to inform you that the legendary DJ Jam Master Jay (Jason
Mizell)
of Run DMC, was killed in Jamaica, Queens, tonight at a recording
studio. The
news anchor reported that he appears to have died from a single shot to
the
head. The anchor also said that the police investigation to find out
what
really happened could go well into the morning. A 25 yr. old man was
shot in
the leg. Jam Master Jay was only 37. He will be sorely missed by the
Hip Hop
community. We would like to express our condolences to his family,
friends,
affiliates and fans. He won't be forgotten.

Sincerely
Christie Z- and Fabel Pabon

This is the only website that seemed the most official for Run DMC
news. God
willing, you can check this site for more information as it's
available.
http://thadweb.com/rundmc/

Afrika Bambaataa for alerted us to this news after he heard it on the
radio.

Jepthah
10-31-02, 02:00 AM
:(

no...no...no...no...

JMJ was the sonic keystone that made me jam on RAISING HELL all through the late 1980s...damn...why does this have to happen in this day and age...?

I hope the scumbag who took him away from us pays for this crime!

:mad: :(

dek
10-31-02, 02:32 AM
:(

the aftermath
10-31-02, 05:57 AM
Originally posted by The Edit King
Wasn't he a Minister?

Sad Indeed. :(
That was Rev Run of Run DMC, I believe.

costanza187
10-31-02, 07:49 AM
That's sad..I remember RUN DMC real well.

Doug Heffernan
10-31-02, 08:14 AM
I am from around the way
And Run goes to school every day
And Jay plays the records he has to play
And we get down with no delay, HEY!
I rock the party with the words I speak
And Run says the rhymes that are unique
And Jay cuts the records every day of the week
And we are the crew that can never be beat
So don't try to diss me, try to be my friend
'Cause if you do, you'll get yours in the end
The rhymes we say so set a trend
Because a devistating rap is what we send


R.I.P. Jay :(

matome
10-31-02, 08:34 AM
:(

Classic rap all the way...brings back the memories.

Jazzbutcher
10-31-02, 08:59 AM
You rocked the house.



Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
He's a one man band, in his own right
Jam-Master jams to the broad daylight
No instruments needed, just two record players
A stage, a crowd, and two rhyme-sayers
The creed is to hear, so have no fear
Definition defined, the position is clear
You couldn't be late, hesitate to debate
Jam-Master is here, and you could not wait
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Now he's the Jam-Master, and we're the MCs
Like lightning and thunder, we're knocking down trees
While sucker DJs are busting out seeds
My man Jam-Master scratching hard crossings
So why don't you listen, or you'll be missin'
The cuts and the scratches, bass, treble and the mission
The force and the power, coming hour after hour
So get up off the wall, don't you be a wall flower
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
The alert is red, this is what we said
The meaning of Master means he's our head
The meaning of Jam is a big party
The records that he plays for the crowds of plenty
And when he comes on, the crowd goes off
It's all hard rock, there's nothing soft
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
He has a little soul, to rock n' roll
Every record that he touches turns to gold
He's well conducted, self-instructed
His styles were plied, heavily constructed
Mechanically inclined, and if you don't mind
We add spice to your life, time after time
And think about times, where he's a long laster
We rock our rhymes for the Jam-Master
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
His name's Jam-Master, call him Jay
The crowd goes wild when he starts to play
Everything is correct, and A-OK
Jam-Master's on a move, but his sounds will stay
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
From end to start, start to end
Not only does he scratch, but he's our friend
We could not wait to let you see
The things that he does for D and me
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam
Couldn't wait to see Jam-Master jammin'
Couldn't wait to see the master jam

Jason
10-31-02, 09:01 AM
I really wish I had gone to that Aerosmith/Kid Rock/Run-DMC show this summer :( :(

josuff247
10-31-02, 09:06 AM
RIP Jay

Although no one deserves to die,
you especially did not.
Run DMCs lyrics were never about violence,
and seeing your interviews you seemed
like the nicest one in the group.
I got your greatest hits cd in my player
as a tribute to a true legend.

"JAY are the letters in his name
cuttin' and scratchin' are the aspects of his game"

RIP, Heaven is gonna be much iller!

Groucho
10-31-02, 09:16 AM
Maybe I had my head in the sand, but I thought that Run DMC wasn't part of the "gangsta" scene?

mdc3000
10-31-02, 09:37 AM
RIP JMJ...

This is quite sad... I've been a RUN fan for quite a while... i totally regret not seeing them this summer.... I'm gonna put on "Tougher Than leather" now and remember one of the hip hop greats...

MATT

das Monkey
10-31-02, 09:37 AM
Damn. I saw him perform less than a year ago.

das

Gil Jawetz
10-31-02, 09:49 AM
<h1>Goddamn that DJ made my day</h1>

Saw them a couple years ago. Jay was the show. He seemed larger than life, cutting up and scratching like crazy. I've been thinking about them lately with the WIld Style DVD out reminding me of all my great memories of discovering rap back in the day. Run DMC were huge to me and I ran their tapes until they were unlistenable.

R.I.P. Jay

Gil Jawetz
10-31-02, 09:50 AM
And one other thing. RUn DMC were never about violence, gangs or even cursing. This is bulls**** and it really makes me mad to think of all the people out there who will think "There goes another thug rapper killed by his own attitude." I don't know all about Jay's personal life but I think it's safe to say that this is a total raw deal.

Thumbs
10-31-02, 10:04 AM
"If you love this hip-hop thing like I love this hip-hop thing, it's a sad day," Big Daddy Kane's longtime DJ, Mr. Cee, urged as he fought back tears throughout Flex's show. "This has to stop, not just in hip-hop, but all over. This violence is just crazy. It's unreal."

http://thadweb.com/rundmc/pictures/jay-rip.jpg

Gil Jawetz
10-31-02, 10:10 AM
http://is.gseis.ucla.edu/impact/f01/Papers/Hildebrand/images/gapjay%5B1%5D.gif

dek
10-31-02, 10:14 AM
http://209.34.75.228/Artists/RUN%20DMC/JAY.jpg

Bust
10-31-02, 10:57 AM
Sad, sad, day.

BDB
10-31-02, 11:12 AM
I saw this on the front of the chronicle this morning and thought to myself how could that be.

My thoughts are with his family and friends :(

Gil Jawetz
10-31-02, 01:38 PM
Here's a nice article about Jay from a couple years ago: http://www.djtimes.com/original/djmag/jun00/JamMasterJay.htm

Daryl
10-31-02, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by buskerdog
<h1>Goddamn that DJ made my day</h1>



That's exactly what I was thinking this morning, man. So true, so true.

Andalusia
10-31-02, 02:07 PM
So friggin' senseless. Why?!

Rypro 525
10-31-02, 03:14 PM
this COULD bring back that east coast west coast thing but i dont wanna get into that until they find the bastard who did this. also does anyone know if they will cancel any of the aerosmith concerts since they, kid rock and run dmc played together now right?

Gil Jawetz
10-31-02, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Rypro 525
this COULD bring back that east coast west coast thing but i dont wanna get into that until they find the bastard who did this.

Run DMC and Jay have/had far more class than that.

This is from the CNN article:

Group avoided feuds
And unlike other rap groups, Run-DMC avoided feuds with other rappers. Run is an ordained minister, DMC overcame alcoholism, and Jam Master Jay was a married father of three children.

Any possible link between Jay's death and a rap war was dismissed by Russell Simmons, the founder of Def Jam records, Run-DMC's original label, and the brother of Joseph Simmons.

"They represented everything good and positive about hip-hop," said Russell Simmons in a statement.

"Before the media rushes to attribute this to East Coast - West Coast violence, they should examine Run-DMC's two decades of contributions and Jam Master Jay's personal character," he said.

"This has nothing more to do with so-called East Coast-West Coast violence than the snipers in Washington did."

Frank TJ Mackey
10-31-02, 08:28 PM
I don't get why the security officers would let the two killers into the building.

Once they did, people had to have heard the shots that were fired.

How the hell did they get out of the building without being stopped??

Makes me so damn mad.

RUN-DMC is truly one of the greatest music
groups ever assembled.

the aftermath
10-31-02, 08:38 PM
East Coast-West Coast thing? NO. That didn't even pop into my head when I heard the news.

Rogue588
10-31-02, 11:35 PM
I agree. This is pretty frustrating. This article makes it even more so...Jam Master Jay an Unlikely Target
By LARRY McSHANE

NEW YORK (AP) - As one of the forefathers of rap, with a history of social activism, Run-DMC's Jam Master Jay was an unlikely target for the kind of violence that killed rappers Tupac Shakur or the Notorious B.I.G.

He was married with three kids, and a fixture in the Queens neighborhood where he grew up. Yet authorities were searching Thursday for the gunman who killed the 37-year-old disc jockey with a gunshot to the head inside his recording studio.

"Jam Master Jay was a longtime family man and one of the founders of the group that knocked down all the doors for hip-hop, and a dear friend of mine,'' said Russell Simmons, the hip-hop impresario whose brother Joe was Jay's bandmate.

"I loved him,'' said a devastated Simmons. "I will miss him. He is irreplaceable.''

Chuck D, frontman for rappers Public Enemy, agreed with that sentiment.

"You draw the comparison to when John Lennon was shot,'' he said. "It's an enormous loss to the genre.''

The DJ - whose real name was Jason Mizell - was the man behind the music, working the turntables as Joe "Run'' Simmons and Darryl "DMC'' McDaniels rapped over his hard rock beats on hits like "Rock Box,'' "King of Rock'' and their Top 40 cover of Aerosmith's "Walk This Way.''

"He was family to me,'' McDaniels said. "He stuck to the true essence of what a DJ in a hip-hop performance should be. The whole music industry has lost a great talent.''

He spun and scratched records on twin turntables simultaneously, creating a new style and sound that was copied by endless disc jockeys. "If Grandmaster Flash was the first famous DJ, Jay had to be the second,'' said Andre Harrell, a Mizell contemporary who now heads Nu America Music.

While breaking new ground, Run-DMC made hip-hop commercially viable, becoming a platinum-selling act that earned a 1987 Grammy nomination.

In a 2001 interview with The Associated Press, Mizell talked about how some initially said rap was a passing fad.

"I hated that, because even before we were making records, I knew it couldn't be a fad because it was the biggest thing in the world to me,'' he said.

Run-DMC created opportunities for untold rappers to follow, expanding their work into movies and a line of clothing.

"It's a terrible loss,'' Adam Horovitz of the Beastie Boys, who joined Run-DMC on a national tour in the mid-1980s. "If Jam Master Jay and Run-DMC hadn't looked out for us way back when, I don't know where we'd be now.''

Run-DMC, three friends who hailed from the Hollis section of Queens, was always above the thuggishness that later came to dominate hip-hop. "It's not like we just have scrambled brains and gold chains,'' McDaniels once told the AP.

Last year, Simmons said: "We never talked about nothing that was ungodly too much anyways. Run-DMC was no thugged-out gangsta killers, cursing all over their records.''

They were the only rap act at Live Aid, the fund-raising concert for African famine victims, and they joined Little Steven Van Zandt for the anti-apartheid anthem, "Sun City.'' They also contributed the track "Christmas in Hollis'' to the Special Olympics project, "A Very Special Christmas.''

Run-DMC did anti-drug concerts, established scholarships and set up voter registration booths at its live shows.

"They represented everything good and positive about hip-hop,'' remembered Russell Simmons.

The band achieved a level of fame previously unheard of for rappers. Their list of firsts is staggering: first rappers with a gold album, first with a platinum album, first on American Bandstand, first on the cover of Rolling Stone.

Their videos became MTV staples. And though their record sales had waned in recent years, they remained a formidable concert draw: the group recently completed a tour with Aerosmith and Kid Rock.

"They're the Rolling Stones of rap,'' Ice Cube said recently.

In a 1987 interview with the AP, the trio sipped tea in a Manhattan hotel room. The band revealed, giggling, why they decided to bring Aerosmith singer Steven Tyler in for their remake of "Walk This Way'': because none of them knew the lyrics.

Mizell recalled scratching the song for Tyler, repeating guitarist Joe Perry's riff without ever getting to the vocals - evidence of their fascination with beats over lyrics.

In Queens, fans had created an impromptu memorial to Mizell outside his recording studio, just a short distance from the neighborhood where he grew up.

"We've lost a legend,'' said fan Terrence Chadwick, 37, standing outside the studio. "Jam Master Jay was truly a legend to this community.''
I wouldn't say Run DMC were tame because that would be the wrong word to use...but they didn't talk any SH*T the way today's rappers do.

Although...on the news a little while ago they said the police are looking into death threats that another rapper named 50 cent received. If that's the case, that is TOTALLY f'd up man because I GUARANTEE one Jam Master Jay would be worth ONE HUNDRED 50 Cents.

But I guess that's the difference between then and now.

I agree with Frank. Why the hell did security let them in? Wouldn't they know who the killers were?

And one more thing...this tired excuse blaming violence on the "media" is ridiculous. I think it's time for people to take some responsibility for what they sow.

RMSpuhler
11-01-02, 04:35 PM
For the killer's sake, I hope the cops find him before others do.

People always fight in and over rap: Nas or Jay-Z? East or West? Eminem or, well, anyone else? But no matter who a rap fan' favorite artists were, whether it was gangsta, underground or anywhere in between, everyone loves Run DMC.

Jay was a legend and, evidentally, a very good person - a double play not all-that-common in hip-hop. He will be sorely missed.

RS

Aghama
11-01-02, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Rogue588

Although...on the news a little while ago they said the police are looking into death threats that another rapper named 50 cent received. If that's the case, that is TOTALLY f'd up man because I GUARANTEE one Jam Master Jay would be worth ONE HUNDRED 50 Cents. JMJ discovered 50 Cent, but I don't think they're really close or anything. Word is that he was in $500k worth of debt, so if this is over anything it's money.

Julie Walker
11-02-02, 10:37 PM
Man this is sad news! I was'nt even aware of it until i saw this thread & my heart just sank:(


They were to me what rap is all about & the best of the best. To bad not many others followed there way & we have alittle to much crap(gangsta wannabe's) out now,with some good stuff here & there.

cupcake jesus
11-03-02, 11:38 AM
so sad - got to see them in Syracuse in March 2001, and there was more positive energy in the room than at any show i've ever attended. got to meet them afterword, too - great, down to earth guys.

RIP JMJ...

Frank TJ Mackey
11-05-02, 03:45 PM
I bet and would certainly hope that the newer Greatest Hits
joint will jump back up the charts.

It has the stuff from the 80's when they were really on top
of their game.

Pick it up because it's great stuff especially if you don't have their albums.

Venom
12-20-02, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Julie Walker
Man this is sad news! I was'nt even aware of it until i saw this thread & my heart just sank:(


same here, although extremely late. i don't know how i had no idea about this at all. that's screwed up as i live in a cave, i have cable and the internet.

very sad news, and disappointing that justice has still not been served?


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