Ralph Wiggum

The only thing that I know of as concrete is the hiding in walls on certain levels.

The other night I attempted to kill an invincible player who wasn't lagging as far as I could tell. I hope it was just lag.

I've heard rumors of Gameshark BS making its way into the game as well.

What has everyone here seen? Has there been any word from Sony about fixes for the servers or glitches?

fujishig

Urgh, I hope not. That's the one thing I was hoping wouldn't make it's way onto online console gaming. It took the fun out of Counterstrike, for me.

s}{ammer

Last night was the worst I have ever seen. Every game we played in had something "cheat like" going on.

I know for a fact that one guy shot me and then ran out a rock wall on Night Stalker.

Three of us were shooting a player who was not lagging. It was an all out firefight and he wouldn't go down. Then when the round ended he was shooting his gun non stop and not reloading.

Two or three times while we were playing there were 9 players on one team.


I was reading scea.com's forum and I read that gamesharek released an infinite health code then removed it when trhey saw it working online. Not sure if this is accurate though as some people said that GS had tested the code online and did not release it. Either way I think you will find that it is in fact out there.

goLUCKY

Game Shark Codes working online, now that's very sukekekekekeke.

Carl Spackler

Main reason I sold my copy.
Glad I did too because used copies and mine went for 55+ on ebay.
Awesome b/c thanks to dvdtalk, I bought it for $39 shipped from amazon after finding the deal here! thanks.

P.S. - Now holding out for Ghost Recon on the Xbox to take over from SOCOM.

Lethal Nemesis

I was with you in that game, and yeah, we were pumping about 1000 bullets into that guy and he never died.

As for the no reloading - do you remember what type of gun he had? It could have been one of those guns with the 75 bullet clips.

I've seen the 9 player thing in other games before. I figured that it was a server or network glitch.

Whether the no reloading or the 9 player thing was a code or server glitch, the guy getting shot 1000 times definitely looked like a GameShark at work.

chanster

Where is the fun in that? Its a joke. Infinite health = no challenge.

nevermind

I agree. It's one thing to cheat yourself, it's another to cheat other players. Damn_shame, IMO.

I have no idea how gameshark works. Do they alter code to make infinite health,ammo, etc. possible, or are the cheats there from the developers?

If the gameshark alters code, they should be sued by the developers and Sony, because after hearing this, I'm not going to buy it - and others may do the same.

If the cheats were built into the game from the beginning by the developers, then they better learn from this and make sure it doesn't happen in the future.

qbert

cheaters are suck.

s}{ammer

one good thing is that now that vice city is out there aren't nearly as many players online so the servers were good last night. I played a couple games and they were on the up and up. I wonder if perhaps it was just server problems. I'll have to hold my opinion until I see more cheating.

DigIt

AFAIK, it finds the memory address where, for example, your "health" score is stored, and it changes that value to always remain 100%.

nevermind

Then they should be sued, IMO.

Jeremy517

For what?

nevermind

Isn't the machine code covered by some sort of copyright or propietary law?

Also, loss of revenue. Like I said, I'm surely not going to buy an online game where a fair game is not possible. The replay value is in the toilet if every time you play the game, you cannot harm the opponent. If someone wants to cheat an offline game, fine - they only hurt themself.

Maybe in future games these cheaters can be branded as such, and put on an ignore list. I don't have the NA adapter yet, but would something like this be possible?

Jeremy517

It doesn't edit code, it only edits memory.

Ralph Wiggum

So there isn't really anything Sony can do about this from the server side then?

Gallant Pig

Not without patching the game (talking about the wall cheats, not the alleged gameshark stuff).

The game definitely needs to be patched too, the wall cheat is very popular.