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Old 09-07-02, 08:55 PM
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GameCube digital video output

Has anyone with a GameCube bought either the S-video or component video cables. If so, what's your opinion?

Apparently the component cable also has progressive scan capabilities. I was reading about it in Nintendo's online store and was wondering if it would be worth the money. Ideally I'd like the component, but I'm not sure I'd be able to tell much of a difference.
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I'm told that progressive scan technology is still quite expensive and that the more inexpensive Progressive Scan DVD players on the market aren't really progressive scan and that the image quality doesn't even come close to a higher end PS player and that the image quality is closer to that of a higher end non-progressive scan player (in the 200-300 dollar range). Based on that, I always figured that the progressive scan features of the GCN weren't going to be all that impressive. I haven't experienced it first hand though, so take that for what it's worth.
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S-video makes a nice improvement over composite, even on my 32" TV. I don't have a progressive scan TV, and don't feel like dropping $30 on a cable to go interlaced component, so I haven't tried that out yet.
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S-video makes a nice improvement over composite, even on my 32" TV.
I'll agree with that at least... that's true in almost every case.
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I haven't tried the Component, or for that matter the composite. I've got mine going S-Video through a multiple input selector.

I would not go anything less than S-video personally. I'd say going component, would depend on your setup, etc. You can get the S-video cables for about $10 without looking hard.
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I first bought the S-video because it was only $10-15 and didn't even realize there was component for it. After I purchased Beach Spikers and was denied the Progressive Scan mode because of my lack of Component, I decided enough. I dropped the 30 to Nintendo for the cable, and boy does it ever make a difference. It makes 2X difference or more on the S-video cable, and was pleasantly suprised to get progressive 16X9 on Super monkey ball 2 etc.

If you got Hdtv, get em .
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Sorry little off topic, but can someone tell me how to get dolby digital to work with the gamecube? Also, will it work with the s-video cable? or do you need to use the component cable? Thanks.

P.S. I think s-video looks alot better than the composite cable.
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Sorry little off topic, but can someone tell me how to get dolby digital to work with the gamecube? Also, will it work with the s-video cable? or do you need to use the component cable? Thanks.
Nintendo went with the fabulous choice of DPL II instead of Dolby Digital .

Ugh that's the one thing I hate about the system.
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Actually DPII is getting some really great reviews from Home Theater and Sound and Vision for whatever that's worth, but obviously it's not preferrable to DD.
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Originally posted by SpaceBoy
I first bought the S-video because it was only $10-15 and didn't even realize there was component for it. After I purchased Beach Spikers and was denied the Progressive Scan mode because of my lack of Component, I decided enough. I dropped the 30 to Nintendo for the cable, and boy does it ever make a difference. It makes 2X difference or more on the S-video cable, and was pleasantly suprised to get progressive 16X9 on Super monkey ball 2 etc.

If you got Hdtv, get em .
Well that's good news - I'm glad there's a signifigant difference.
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Originally posted by SpaceBoy
It makes 2X difference or more on the S-video cable, and was pleasantly suprised to get progressive 16X9 on Super monkey ball 2 etc.
Yeah, that one blew me away too. And the clarity looks so much improved over the orignial S. Monkey Ball. Yeah, if you can support the output, you'd be silly not to pick up the cables.
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I've only got a 27" tv, so I'm not sure how big of a difference it will make. I'm thinking about either getting the S-video and leaving it at that, or getting the component in case I upgrade my tv.
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I have the component cables, and it makes a huuuuge difference. The detail and colors are so much better than the regular composite cable that I think it was worth the $30. If the money isn't a major problem, I'd say it's a must.
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Well,ya DPLII, but how do you hook it up? there's no optical cable, will it work with the s-video cables, or do you need to use the component cable's?

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DPL2 is a two-channel system (matrixed 5.1), just like DPL (which is matrixed 4.0). You just have to have a DPL2 compatable receiver, which weren't very common a year ago but are more prevelant now.
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Originally posted by Cigar
Well,ya DPLII, but how do you hook it up? there's no optical cable, will it work with the s-video cables, or do you need to use the component cable's?

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Cigar, s-video and component video are video cables - not audio. I honestly don't remember whether s-video carries an audio channel, but I know for a fact that component video does not. What that means is that the audio cables you use are completely separate from the video cables. The only time this isn't true is with RCA (composite) because they usually include the third line for audio.
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Originally posted by Cigar
Well,ya DPLII, but how do you hook it up? there's no optical cable, will it work with the s-video cables, or do you need to use the component cable's?

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All you need, like Groucho said, is a receiver that can handle DPLII and the stereo (red and white) cables that came with the Gamecube. Whether or not you're using s-video or component doesn't matter, those are both just for video, neither carries any audio. The s-video cable come just like the cable that are packaged with the gamecube, the difference is that instead of a yellow cable there is an s-video plug. I think the component cables come without any audio cables, they go into the digital output and you hook up your original cables in order to get the sound.
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Originally posted by blakwngbrd
Cigar, s-video and component video are video cables - not audio. I honestly don't remember whether s-video carries an audio channel, but I know for a fact that component video does not. What that means is that the audio cables you use are completely separate from the video cables. The only time this isn't true is with RCA (composite) because they usually include the third line for audio.

Your are right. Composite has one video yellow and then two audio left and right. S video and Component video is only video no Audio at all.
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O.K. Thank's
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I recently ordered this VGA cable from a Hong Kong company. The instructions to build one yourself are here but I didn't feel like doing it, nor did I think I could do a good job, so I just bought one someone else made.

I'll give impressions of how it works when it arrives, along with comments on speed of service, shadiness, etc. People at the IGN boards have gotten this cable, though, so I'm pretty sure it'll work out well. They say the VGA progressive scan is very nice.
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If you have a TV with progressive scan, the cables are def. worth the money. Games look awesome. If you don't have a PS TV the improvment over Svideo in minimal.
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I have component cables and a progressive scan tv. It is a huge difference over the regular composite cables. Playing Rogue Leader with the composite cables had no sharpness at all, and the colors were very dull. The component cables make all of the colors very crisp and sharp. Basically, if you have component inputs on your TV you should be using component cables (isn't this the reason you bought a tv with component input in the first place?). If S-video is your best possible input use that. I just pray to god people out there aren't using RFU adapters hehe, it's time to upgrade then.

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