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Old 06-01-03, 03:44 PM
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The Incredibles! Pixar takes on People!

The trailer for the Incredibles was hilarious! And Pixar has an astounding track record. could they be flirting with disaster with their next movie?

I hope not. But while the Incredibles are very "cartoony" looking, I often wonder if staying away from the human world has been a big benefit to Pixar. If creating the world that goes unseen by humans has been one very big aspect of Pixars success.

Pixar is obviously not trying to go for realism with this movie. And I am sure Story will remain the largest focus for them. But if ever there was a movie company that was due an error, it would be Pixar. And if ever there was a project they might take a misstep on, I imagine it might be this one.

I for one, hope this is not true. But for how long can they bat a 1000?

Hopefully forever, but even i know it isnt possible.

What is your take on this? How long do you think Pixar can keep this great track record going?
Old 06-01-03, 04:02 PM
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I heard somewhere, maybe on this board, that someone at Pixar said they could easily make realistic-looking humans, but they choose to keep them cartooney.
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Brad Bird (Iron Giant) is directing this... certainly don't think the Incredibles will be PIXAR's misstep... batting average to date=1000....batting average as of November 6, 2004=1000.

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Old 06-01-03, 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by shaun3000
I heard somewhere, maybe on this board, that someone at Pixar said they could easily make realistic-looking humans, but they choose to keep them cartooney.
Well, I know PDI/Dreamworks made this decision on Shrek. I'm sure has similar capabilities. The human in Toy Story 2 was leaps ahead of the first one.
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Pixar staff members have stated in past interviews that they're not going for photo-realism. They attempt to create what best serves the world they're trying to create. Which is why the ants in A Bug's Life are pastel-colored, for instance.

And just to back up my post, here's a portion of a recent interview with "Nemo" director Andrew Stanton and co-director Lee Unkrich:

You bring up an interesting point: We’ve finally come to the point where you can pull back. There are some people in this field whose ultimate goal seems to be photorealism — but then that brings up the question: “Why bother?” If you can have a team of highly educated technicians rendering a rock, why not just go shoot a rock?

Stanton: Well, that’s been our point all along. The last thing we’re trying to do is mimic reality exactly. Because we don’t get the point.

Unkrich: That’s my feeling exactly. And that’s part of why we’ve never, at Pixar, tried to create realistic humans. It’s far easier and far less expensive to shoot a real actor than to try and re-create a digital actor. The only exception to that — and this doesn’t really apply to what we do in our world — is the case of digital stuntmen.

Stanton: In a way, “Nemo”’s the closest we’ve ever come to the real world — and even that is actually very caricatured.

Unkrich: At Pixar, we want to create a believable world, but it’s not necessarily a realistic world. It’s essential to have a believable world in order for audiences to connect on a much higher level with the story and characters.

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Old 06-02-03, 11:22 AM
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Did anyone else notice the music in the Incredibles trailer? It was the theme from On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Old 06-02-03, 11:29 AM
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Pixar's choice is wise. I could name a CG movie that went for a photorealistic look and had an empty, boring story and uninteresting characters; and what happened to it? Well Finding Nemo just doubled that film's entire take in it's first weekend.
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Originally posted by pixyboi
Pixar's choice is wise. I could name a CG movie that went for a photorealistic look and had an empty, boring story and uninteresting characters; and what happened to it? Well Finding Nemo just doubled that film's entire take in it's first weekend.
Well, you hit it on the head there. What if Final Fantasy DID have a good story with interesting characters? It would have been fantastic. If you've seen the Animatrix short Final Flight Of The Osiris, you can see the potential for photo-realistic filmmaking. That 8 minute short was better than the entirety of Final Fantasy and left me longing for more.
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Originally posted by Jim
Did anyone else notice the music in the Incredibles trailer? It was the theme from On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
Yes. When I heard that, I was immediately transported to a snow-covered slope with George Lazenby escaping on only one ski.
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Originally posted by Jim
Did anyone else notice the music in the Incredibles trailer? It was the theme from On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
I noticed too. But it wasn't the music EXACTLY. Notes were changed slightly, probably to avoid any legal problem.
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Any links to the trailer?
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Originally posted by Numanoid
Well, you hit it on the head there. What if Final Fantasy DID have a good story with interesting characters? It would have been fantastic.
I didn't think the story for Final Fantasy was THAT bad, but still nowhere approaching the depth anything Pixar does. I think Pixar does well in touching simple and raw human emotions. If anything, Final Fantasy tried to do TOO MUCH. Pixar appeals to mass audiences whereas Final Fantasy made a story which was too "anime-like" and I think a lot of people didn't really get it (I think the Gaia concept really went over a lot of people's heads).

With said, I'll probably try anything Pixar and I look forward to an "all-human" cast.

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Yep. Noticed the 007 OHMSS theme too. Thought it strange that it would appear in a Pixar trailer.
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Originally posted by outcastja
Any links to the trailer?
It's up over at Apple...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/the_incredibles/
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Warner Bros. will rue the day this comes out and makes oodles of cash, for mistreating Brad Bird's previous film The Iron Giant. This teaser is great. It strikes me as a more lighthearted version of "Watchmen." Can't wait.
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It doesn't seem to be there anymore

Originally posted by Goldberg74
It's up over at Apple...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/the_incredibles/
Old 06-04-03, 05:18 AM
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It's up at Pixar's site now.

http://www.pixar.com/theater/trailer...les/index.html
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It seems hilarious, can't wait for this one
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It's great having that trailer in quicktime format, since you can freeze on all those headlines on the wall. Some of the more interesting ones:

"Golden Age of Superheros - Men and Women Take to the Skies"

"Mr. Incredible Retires"
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Originally posted by Jepthah
Warner Bros. will rue the day this comes out and makes oodles of cash, for mistreating Brad Bird's previous film The Iron Giant.
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Do you think Paul Dini has anything to do with this film?

Old 06-04-03, 08:57 AM
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Here's a direct link to the largest size trailer, in case you'd like to save it:

http://a1712.g.akamai.net/5/1712/51/...ibles_p480.mov
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Looks good. Can't wait.
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Argh!!
I still can't download it. When I click on any of the links at Pixars site I get a popup box that says the information the Plugin requested didn't download sucessfully, and when I try to save the direct link, I get a message saying IE couldnt open that internet site.

Help?

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Is this Pixars last Disney movie? (if they don't re-sign...which I don't think they will do)

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