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10th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge Discussion Thread

It's that time again! Time for the 10th Annual Sci-Fi/Fantasy Challenge 2017!

List Thread for 2017

Dates: Dusk June 30-Dawn August 1st

Rules

Movies/TV shows should be labeled sci-fi or fantasy from either imdb.com or allmovie.com. Other labels don't matter as long as there is at least a sci-fi or fantasy label from one of those sites. Action/Sci-fi would be fine.

If anyone has a problem with something someone watches or just wants an opinion on if it's sci-fi or fantasy or not, ask here.

Sci-Fi/Fantasy documentaries are allowed but not DVD featurettes/interviews. Documentaries include UFO and alien abduction type shows.

As with the other challenges, the lists must be numbered or it won't count.

Use any counting method you prefer, as prize determination does not depend on number of items watched.

3 wild cards for all. Use for those shows you want to watch but know they really don't count but they're pretty close or borderline to counting.


Watching the movie with the commentary will count as an entry.

Watching multiple versions (theatrical and director's cut) of the same movie will also count.


How to win a prize

There's 1 way to get an entry:
Participate by watching at least 1 item (please number your lists!)

Audio:

Sci-fi/Fantasy Radio

I'm treating audio harshly since this is primarily a movie/tv challenge. That being said, one episode, 4 hours with commercials, of Coast to Coast counts as one entry. It's the same format for TV, only doubled. The topic of the show has to be sci-fi/fantasy related, so it shouldn't be that much of a problem with Coast to Coast.

If you're listening to something without commercials, or can skip them, you're looking at 3 hours of audio for one entry.

1/4 entry = 45 minutes without commercials and 60 with commercials.

1/2 entry = 90 minutes without commercials and 120 with commercials.

3/4 entry = 135 minutes without commercials and 180 with commercials.

1 entry = 180 minutes without commercials and 240 with commercials.

*Exceptions:* 1: The Tarzan films are eligible to watch and count for the watch list, but not for the check list.
2. Superhero films. If they do not have a sci-fi/fantasy tag, they count for the watch list, but not for the check list.

Checklist:

Spoiler:

*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

Watch one film from every decade, starting with the 1900s.
--- 1900(No time limit but must be at least complete short film) - (optional)
--- 1910(No time limit but must be at least complete short film) - (optional)
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

Watch a film in 12 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring laser blasters -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film From the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch a film that takes place underneath the Earth -
--- Watch a film that takes place in space -
--- Watch a film that takes place on or under the sea -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

He's dead, Jim. Watch 6 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Ray Bradbury -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Phillip K. Dick -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Edgar Rice Burroughs -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late HP Lovecraft -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson -
--- Watch a film starring Christopher Lee -
--- Watch a film starring Alan Rickman -
--- Watch a film starring Anton Yelchin -
--- Watch a film starring Kenny Baker -
--- Watch a film starring Bill Paxton -
--- Watch a film starring John Hurt -

Watch 12 films directed/produced/written by:
--- James Cameron -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Tim Burton -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- David Cronenberg -
--- James Whale -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Paul Verhoeven -
--- Robert Wise -
--- Robert Zemeckis -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- Jerry Warren -
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Samuel Z. Arkoff -
--- David Twohy -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- William Cameron Menzies -
--- Kevin Connor -
--- Alex Proyas -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Melies -
--- George Miller -
--- George Lucas -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Luc Besson -

Watch a film for each rating
--- G -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- R -
--- X/NC-17(Optional) -
--- Unrated -

Watch a film in 28 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Horror
--- Dystopian Society -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Alternate History -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Immortality -
--- Space Opera/Serial -
--- Mutants (non-critter) -
--- Comic Book -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Comedy -
--- Time travel -
--- Giant Critters -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Paranormal -
--- Kaiju -
--- Tech Noir -
--- First Contact -
--- Space Soldiers -
--- Magical Beings -
--- Future Crimes -
--- Animalcadabra -
--- Myths & Legends -
--- Worst Movie Ever -
--- Arthurian Fantasy -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Urban Fantasy -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Martial Arts Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

Watch a film starring 23 of the following actors:

--- Amy Adams -
--- Evelyn Ankers -
--- Lionel Atwill -
--- Susan Cabot -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Peter Dinklage -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Michelle Forbes -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Arthur Franz -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Ian Holm -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- Hugh Marlowe -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Doug McClure -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Julianne Moore -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Edward James Olmos -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Michelle Rodriguez -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Brian Thompson -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- David Warner -
--- Sigourney Weaver -
--- Raquel Welch -
--- Peter Weller -


2016's Discussion list.

Thanks to Hamilton Books and GoldenWheels for donating prizes for the challenge!
Prize pack one: Sword and Sorcery Collection: Roger Corman's Cult Classics, Neverland and The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition

Prize pack two: The Ray Harryhausen Collectible Gift Set and The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition

Prize pack three: Star Wars: Ships of the Galaxy, Tim Burton Film Favorites BR and The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies Extended Edition

2018's updated checklist:
Spoiler:
*Watching enough shorts or TV to count as one entry, you can use that one entry as a check on the checklist, as long as each of them count for whatever you're checking. You can mix and match what you've seen to make a check, they all don't have to be grouped together as a single entry on your watch list.

3 Wildcards allowed

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following decades:
--- 1890 -
--- 1900 -
--- 1910 -
--- 1920 -
--- 1930 -
--- 1940 -
--- 1950 -
--- 1960 -
--- 1970 -
--- 1980 -
--- 1990 -
--- 2000 -
--- 2010 -

--- Watch films in at least two languages other than English.
--- First language -
--- Second language -

--- Watch a film in 9 of the following:
--- Watch a MST3K/Rifftrax/Cinematic Titanic/Hosted version of a sci-fi/fantasy film -
--- Watch a film featuring laser blasters -
--- Watch a film made on a low budget (ex. Corman or Castle movie) -
--- Watch a film based on a novel -
--- Watch a film which was nominated for a Hugo or Saturn Award-
--- Watch a Documentary Feature -
--- Watch a Film from the Criterion Collection (Doesn't have to be the Criterion Version) -
--- Watch a film with commentary -
--- Watch a film and at least two sequels -
--- Watch an animated film -
--- Watch a film with special effects by Ray Harryhausen -
--- Watch a film that takes place in the "future" but the year has already come and gone -
--- Watch a film and its remake/reboot

--- He's dead, Jim. Watch 4 out of the following:
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Gene Roddenberry -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Ray Bradbury -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Jules Verne -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late HP Lovecraft -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Richard Matheson -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late George Romero -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Christopher Lee -
--- Written by/inspired by/or related in some way to the late Alan Rickman -

--- Watch 10 films directed/produced/written by:
--- J. J. Abrams -
--- Luc Besson -
--- Tim Burton -
--- James Cameron -
--- John Carpenter -
--- Richard Fleischer -
--- Terry Gilliam -
--- Fritz Lang -
--- George Lucas -
--- George Melies -
--- Hayao Miyazaki -
--- Ridley Scott -
--- Steven Spielberg -
--- David Twohy -
--- The Wachowskis -
--- James Whale -
--- Robert Wise -

--- Watch a film in 7 of these ratings:
--- Unrated (pre-MPAA) -
--- Approved -
--- G -
--- GP -
--- PG -
--- PG-13 -
--- M -
--- R -
--- NC-17 -
--- X (not porn!) -
--- Unrated (post-MPAA) -

--- Watch a film in 11 of the following subgenres:
--- Alien invasion -
--- Based on fairy tale -
--- Christmas in July -
--- Comedy -
--- Comic Book -
--- Dark Fantasy -
--- Disaster -
--- Dystopian Society -
--- High Fantasy -
--- Horror -
--- Immortality -
--- Kaiju -
--- Mad Scientist -
--- Mutants (Critter or otherwise) -
--- Paranormal -
--- Post-Apocalyptic -
--- Prehistoric -
--- Psychological Sci-Fi -
--- Robot/Android -
--- Space Themed -
--- Sword and Sorcery -
--- Time travel -
--- Urban Fantasy -

Not sure what qualifies? Check here for a description or even better: here.

--- Watch a film starring 15 of the following actors:
--- Amy Adams -
--- John Astin -
--- Benedict Cumberbatch -
--- Keith David -
--- Faith Domergue -
--- Harrison Ford -
--- Morgan Freeman -
--- Samuel L. Jackson -
--- Peter Jason -
--- Scarlett Johansson -
--- Milla Jovovich -
--- Christopher Lloyd -
--- Boris Karloff -
--- James McAvoy -
--- Roddy McDowall -
--- Sir Ian McKellen -
--- Gary Oldman -
--- Chris Pine -
--- Chris Pratt -
--- Vincent Price -
--- Keanu Reeves -
--- Kurt Russell -
--- Zoe Saldana -
--- Arnold Schwarzenegger -
--- Andy Serkis -
--- Will Smith -
--- Patrick Stewart -
--- Akira Takarada -
--- Charlize Theron -
--- Liv Tyler -
--- Sigourney Weaver -

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YAY!!! Can't wait!
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Please let me know of any changes to the checklist that people would like to make! Or any suggestions, really, about it. I will finalize it a day or two before the challenge starts so people can work on their lists with it.

Thanks!
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i assume superhero films count? batman, superman, ironman? although mainly action adventure its listed as sci fi too
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I can't wait. I've already found myself watching some sci-fi this month, just to whet my appetite. I also have made some purchases just for this Challenge. I found Dragonheart in the bargain bin at Wal-Mart, I bought the Buck Rogers In The 25th Century Complete Series Set on Blu Ray, and I plan to buy the Power Rangers Series Set that has the first 5 years, as well as use a $5 Video Credit off of a TV Season from Amazon to buy Season 3 of Babylon 5.
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10 years already? I feel old.
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Another opportunity to attack my largest unwatched pile!

Originally Posted by numbercrunch
i assume superhero films count? batman, superman, ironman? although mainly action adventure its listed as sci fi too
I consider them all fantasy.
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I do have a huge stack of Gundam blu-rays of series to watch/re-watch in HD for the first time. That should be a lot of fun depending how much time I have to get through some of them.
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Originally Posted by numbercrunch
i assume superhero films count? batman, superman, ironman? although mainly action adventure its listed as sci fi too
Depends what genre the movie is considered to be. IMDb.com is the most used choice (I think, at least), to determine this. I know I go there first. So taking Iron Man as the example, the genres are listed as "action, adventure, sci-fi" so it would qualify. Don't forget that there is often more genres listed after the cast list. Looking at the 1989 Batman, it does not have a sci-fi or fantasy label, so it wouldn't technically qualify.

That being said, if you watch something and you think it qualifies, there are 3 wild cards you get for the month for the borderline movies. Also, feel free to ask here and I will make a final decision. I know last year, I made an exception for Tarzan. In general, I do believe Superhero movies would qualify even without the sci-fi/fantasy label, but try to follow the spirit of the law if you can.

Basically, I look at if there is anything fantastical or futuristic involved in the movie. Is there something that doesn't exist yet, or couldn't exist in real life? Yes? Then it likely will qualify.
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Originally Posted by malazar
I do have a huge stack of Gundam blu-rays of series to watch/re-watch in HD for the first time. That should be a lot of fun depending how much time I have to get through some of them.
Speaking of Gundam, I'm considering revisiting Gundam Wing, on Hulu, since I haven't seen it since its Toonami days on Cartoon Network.
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Depends what genre the movie is considered to be. IMDb.com is the most used choice (I think, at least), to determine this. I know I go there first. So taking Iron Man as the example, the genres are listed as "action, adventure, sci-fi" so it would qualify. Don't forget that there is often more genres listed after the cast list. Looking at the 1989 Batman, it does not have a sci-fi or fantasy label, so it wouldn't technically qualify.

That being said, if you watch something and you think it qualifies, there are 3 wild cards you get for the month for the borderline movies. Also, feel free to ask here and I will make a final decision. I know last year, I made an exception for Tarzan. In general, I do believe Superhero movies would qualify even without the sci-fi/fantasy label, but try to follow the spirit of the law if you can.

Basically, I look at if there is anything fantastical or futuristic involved in the movie. Is there something that doesn't exist yet, or couldn't exist in real life? Yes? Then it likely will qualify.
I guess an example would be Daredevil. It's on Max Go, but only under Action/Adventure, and not sci-fi. Yet, I would consider a blind man who has superhuman senses to qualify.
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I had already decided to do a Babylon 5 re-watch for this challenge before Stephen Furst passed

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember we had a superhero film debate the year one of the Batman films was released and a blanket decision was made to count them (I guess everyone who was going to see it in theaters wanted it to count - I think The Dark Knight was the film in question).
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Originally Posted by lisadoris
I had already decided to do a Babylon 5 re-watch for this challenge before Stephen Furst passed

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember we had a superhero film debate the year one of the Batman films was released and a blanket decision was made to count them (I guess everyone who was going to see it in theaters wanted it to count - I think The Dark Knight was the film in question).

My memory is bad, so I myself don't remember off the top of my head, but I do remember during the Drive In Challenge back in April when someone asked about superhero movies, Caligula said best to save for July when they all count. That would explain that reasoning.
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If anyone is interested in trying it out for the month, you can become a Coast Insider for $7.99 a month, which includes full archives available of the past five years I believe to choose from to listen to anytime you want. It is available on the computer, and Android. Perhaps iPhone too, but I don't know as I don't have an iPhone myself. I became a Coast Insider back in April and greatly enjoy 24 7 access to the show whenever I want, without having to limit myself to only listening in the middle of the night.
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Yeah, I believe there was a blanket ruling on Superhero movies to allow them. Some things just have to meet the smell test. I remember one year Austin Powers was not listed as Sci-fi on IMDB despite involving time travel and sharks with frickin' lasers.
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With the new season of Game of Thrones starting the 16th I'm planning a mega-marathon of S1-S6. I don't know yet if I'll start this month or wait for July, after all it's 60 episodes to get in over 16 days. It's doable but I'd pretty much have to put anything else on the back burner those two weeks.
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Actors that passed are Kenny Baker, Bill Paxton, and John Hurt. Stephen Furst just a few days ago.
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Originally Posted by shadokitty
I guess an example would be Daredevil. It's on Max Go, but only under Action/Adventure, and not sci-fi. Yet, I would consider a blind man who has superhuman senses to qualify.
That came to mind as well.
Originally Posted by lisadoris
I had already decided to do a Babylon 5 re-watch for this challenge before Stephen Furst passed

Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember we had a superhero film debate the year one of the Batman films was released and a blanket decision was made to count them (I guess everyone who was going to see it in theaters wanted it to count - I think The Dark Knight was the film in question).
I honestly couldn't remember, perhaps it was before I was the host? But I am ok with adding this to the Tarzan exception.
Originally Posted by caligulathegod
Yeah, I believe there was a blanket ruling on Superhero movies to allow them. Some things just have to meet the smell test. I remember one year Austin Powers was not listed as Sci-fi on IMDB despite involving time travel and sharks with frickin' lasers.
Someone tried to say sharks with frickin' lasers didn't count? Weird! I will confirm that as long as I'm a host, that sharks with lasers (even sharks in a tornado) would count in this challenge.

Originally Posted by shellebelle
Actors that passed are Kenny Baker, Bill Paxton, and John Hurt. Stephen Furst just a few days ago.
Thanks, will add these to the memorial section!
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Ok, added the exception for superhero movies to the rules. I did add that like Tarzan movies, that they will count for the watch lists but not the check lists if they do not have a sci-fi/fantasy genre tag.

Did update the memorial section, next year, I'll pare some down, but for now, I'll keep what we have already unless we add more names to it. Feel free to suggest more!
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I'm behind on both the last seasons of Sense 8 and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. So besides that I have about 60 movies cued up.
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For anyone interested in seeing it next month, Kong: Skull Island is now available to buy digitally, and perhaps on DVD and Blu Ray as well. I just saw a big splash screen on the Xbox Store.
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Originally Posted by LJG765
Ok, added the exception for superhero movies to the rules. I did add that like Tarzan movies, that they will count for the watch lists but not the check lists if they do not have a sci-fi/fantasy genre tag.
Thanks i think this makes sense given IMDV's inconsistency with the superhero genre labeling
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OK, this is the first of what I hope are just a few questions about where movies fit. I would think that Edward Scissorhands fits in the Urban Fantasy catageory. Is this correct?
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I finally decided to buy Xena: Warrior Princess on DVD. I was motivated when I noticed that the Complete Series Set was now OOP. So, with not knowing how much longer the individual Season Sets would be in stock at Amazon, especially since the Season 1-4 bundle only had 5 left in stock, I grabbed them while I had the chance.
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Originally Posted by shadokitty
Speaking of Gundam, I'm considering revisiting Gundam Wing, on Hulu, since I haven't seen it since its Toonami days on Cartoon Network.
I am looking forward to re-visiting that when it comes out on blu-ray. I think it is coming out later this year, although there isn't an official street date yet. I haven't watched it since the DVDs first came out around the same time you watched it, so I am really curious to see how it holds up. If you end up revisiting it on Hulu, I will be interested to see what you think.

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