The inevitable SNES Classic is coming (inc. Starfox 2!; 21 games, 9/29/17, $80)
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This will go right next to my NES Classic. I will hack it as well and put everything on there. I will rarely, if ever, play it, but I don't care. I'm in for the form factor.
I think it's baffling that this console appears to have changed the controller input ports to either match the original connections or be miniature versions of them. I get why they'd do that for legacy compatibility, but I don't understand why then the NES didn't do the same? The NES supports the Wii Classic Controller which is essentially an SNES controller. Why wouldn't the SNES Classic follow suit?
Fuckin' Nintendo gonna Nintendo. And fuckin' Brent gonna fuckin' buy.
I think it's baffling that this console appears to have changed the controller input ports to either match the original connections or be miniature versions of them. I get why they'd do that for legacy compatibility, but I don't understand why then the NES didn't do the same? The NES supports the Wii Classic Controller which is essentially an SNES controller. Why wouldn't the SNES Classic follow suit?
Fuckin' Nintendo gonna Nintendo. And fuckin' Brent gonna fuckin' buy.
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I'm going to attempt to get one of these, but recently I found my original Super NES in a shoe box at my parents' house with ten games in it. I'm going to hook it up and see if it still works. I have never played Earthbound or the original Star Fox. That's the main reason why I'm going to try to get a classic.
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I'll try and preorder if I see them available. Won't go out of my way to get one though.
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Some better than others. Nintendo seems to focus on Nintendo titles being included so they'd do alright.
Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT and MM, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Conker's, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox 64, Blast Corps, 1080, Wave Race 64, Paper Mario, Ogre Battle, Rayman 2, Pilot Wings, Mischief Makers, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Tetrisphere, etc; all aged pretty decently
Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT and MM, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Conker's, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox 64, Blast Corps, 1080, Wave Race 64, Paper Mario, Ogre Battle, Rayman 2, Pilot Wings, Mischief Makers, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Tetrisphere, etc; all aged pretty decently
Also N64 was the first system with Pokemon games. Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2, Pokemon Snap, and Pokemon Puzzle were all pretty good games. I don't think the Pokemon Stadium games made it onto the Virtual Console though.
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Some better than others. Nintendo seems to focus on Nintendo titles being included so they'd do alright.
Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT and MM, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Conker's, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox 64, Blast Corps, 1080, Wave Race 64, Paper Mario, Ogre Battle, Rayman 2, Pilot Wings, Mischief Makers, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Tetrisphere, etc; all aged pretty decently
Super Mario 64, Legend of Zelda OOT and MM, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, Conker's, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Fox 64, Blast Corps, 1080, Wave Race 64, Paper Mario, Ogre Battle, Rayman 2, Pilot Wings, Mischief Makers, Mario Party, Smash Bros, Tetrisphere, etc; all aged pretty decently
Notably, Rare re-released Banjo-Kazooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day, and Blast Corps on Xbox. MS likely isn't going to be too big on making them available on a rival's console.
Nintendo probably owns the rights to the games featuring Nintendo characters that Rare developed, such as Donkey Kong Country on the SNES Classic, but any Rare "originals" are unlikely.
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If it wasn't for the THQ Wrestling games and Goldeneye I probably would not have played my N64 much.
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I'm skeptical that they'd be included as well, but anything's possible. Nintendo is allowing Minecraft players to login using Xbox Live, and several Rare titles were released on the Game Boy Advance years after the acquisition. If Microsoft is willing to accept whatever licensing fee Nintendo's offering (assuming the N64 Classic ever even comes to market)...
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A few of those are Rare titles that might have licensing issues since Rare was never fully owned by Nintendo and instead is now part of Microsoft.
Notably, Rare re-released Banjo-Kazooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day, and Blast Corps on Xbox. MS likely isn't going to be too big on making them available on a rival's console.
Nintendo probably owns the rights to the games featuring Nintendo characters that Rare developed, such as Donkey Kong Country on the SNES Classic, but any Rare "originals" are unlikely.
Notably, Rare re-released Banjo-Kazooie, Conker's Bad Fur Day, and Blast Corps on Xbox. MS likely isn't going to be too big on making them available on a rival's console.
Nintendo probably owns the rights to the games featuring Nintendo characters that Rare developed, such as Donkey Kong Country on the SNES Classic, but any Rare "originals" are unlikely.
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No Tetris Attack, no sale!
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eloped_by_Rare
For example, It's Mr. Pants, released in 2005, was announced in 2001 as Donkey Kong Coconut Crackers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_Mr._Pants
There is a single Nintendo DS Rare "original" title, Viva Pińata: Pocket Paradise , released in 2008. However, I don't think MS sees a handheld as a competitor, as MS isn't in the handheld market. Still, it's been 9 years since a new Rare title has appeared on a Nintendo system.
None of the Rare original N64 titles have ever appeared on the Wii or WiiU Virtual Consoles.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...a)#Nintendo_64
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...a)#Nintendo_64
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Don't get me wrong -- I completely agree with everything you're saying, and I don't think it's likely we'll see Rare represented beyond DK64. (Honestly, I don't think a Nintendo 64 Classic is especially likely either, but I guess we'll see next Fall.) I'm not holding my breath, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Nintendo and Microsoft could work something out. Microsoft did just give Rare Replay away to folks who streamed their E3 conference.
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By the same token, a novelty set top box that may only be available for a few months is kind of its own unique thing as well. I don't consider it to be quite the same situation as Virtual Console, since that's more of an ongoing thing.
Don't get me wrong -- I completely agree with everything you're saying, and I don't think it's likely we'll see Rare represented beyond DK64. (Honestly, I don't think a Nintendo 64 Classic is especially likely either, but I guess we'll see next Fall.) I'm not holding my breath, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Nintendo and Microsoft could work something out. Microsoft did just give Rare Replay away to folks who streamed their E3 conference.
Don't get me wrong -- I completely agree with everything you're saying, and I don't think it's likely we'll see Rare represented beyond DK64. (Honestly, I don't think a Nintendo 64 Classic is especially likely either, but I guess we'll see next Fall.) I'm not holding my breath, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that Nintendo and Microsoft could work something out. Microsoft did just give Rare Replay away to folks who streamed their E3 conference.
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I'll do the opposite of my NES-mini prediction and say that no one, ever will find this in any store at any time ever and forever!
I would get this (if I found it without any effort), even though I already own an SNES along with all the games on this, except for 3 which don't care for anyways. So it would be redundant, but a pretty sweet redundancy.
I would get this (if I found it without any effort), even though I already own an SNES along with all the games on this, except for 3 which don't care for anyways. So it would be redundant, but a pretty sweet redundancy.
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I think it's baffling that this console appears to have changed the controller input ports
It's been announced that Nintendo increased the length of the cords to... five feet. Way to fix something without actually fixing it. You will still not be able to leave the machine set up in your A/V rack across the room.
The biggest question with this thing is if N will have gone to any effort to stop it from being hacked. I would not be surprised to see its power port is no longer USB-based. You can bet that they arrogantly/cluelessly did not predict what would happen with the NES Classic, and you can also be sure they absolutely hated what ended up being widely done with the thing. For those in the know, if the SNES ends up locked to its original selection of games, it will end up the far inferior choice.
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You can bet that they arrogantly/cluelessly did not predict what would happen with the NES Classic, and you can also be sure they absolutely hated what ended up being widely done with the thing. For those in the know, if the SNES ends up locked to its original selection of games, it will end up the far inferior choice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gee...039/%3Famp%3D1
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You can bet that they arrogantly/cluelessly did not predict what would happen with the NES Classic, and you can also be sure they absolutely hated what ended up being widely done with the thing. For those in the know, if the SNES ends up locked to its original selection of games, it will end up the far inferior choice.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gee...039/%3Famp%3D1
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Hadn't seen that; pretty cool.
No, of course their engineers aren't morons, but N is typically very proactive against hacks and one of the more hardline companies in standing against emulation/piracy. It's hard to envision their upper management signing off on that release with a full understanding of how easily and extensively it would be hacked. Probably a typical corporate situation where the grunts knew exactly what was going on and collectively rolled their eyes at the way the executives confidently marched ahead. It would be interesting to know exactly what went down inside the company as more and more hacking news broke..
I will be looking forward to seeing whether or not the SNES retains USB connectivity.
No, of course their engineers aren't morons, but N is typically very proactive against hacks and one of the more hardline companies in standing against emulation/piracy. It's hard to envision their upper management signing off on that release with a full understanding of how easily and extensively it would be hacked. Probably a typical corporate situation where the grunts knew exactly what was going on and collectively rolled their eyes at the way the executives confidently marched ahead. It would be interesting to know exactly what went down inside the company as more and more hacking news broke..
I will be looking forward to seeing whether or not the SNES retains USB connectivity.