The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
03-14-17, 01:42 PM
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03-14-17, 02:07 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
It is true that you can run a Switch into an Xbox One, yes. There are zero benefits to doing that, but you can do it if you want.
If I'd known then what I know now, that's what I would've done second as well. I tackled the Goron beast second, but an offense-heavy reward would be more my thing in this game than a defense-centric one.
If I'd known then what I know now, that's what I would've done second as well. I tackled the Goron beast second, but an offense-heavy reward would be more my thing in this game than a defense-centric one.
03-18-17, 01:08 AM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Weirdly, I'm in favor of both stamina and breakable weapons. If weapons are unbreakable, there'd be a tendency to find a weapon that works great for you and never use anything else (or have a small rotation). Destructible weapons force you to vary your play style, experiment more, improvise more on the fly, and approach things more strategically. As far reserving high level weapons because you don't want them to break...I prioritize but don't limit myself. The good stuff lasts a long while, and a weapon as good / better than the one you have in your hands is usually right around the corner anyway. I can't even carry all the high-ish level weapons I've found along the way. Constantly having to drop stuff to make room, and that's okay too. I will say that pausing the action to switch weapons -- repeatedly in some encounters -- can be a drag, and I'd still even say that Witcher III did it better where weapons degrade, are more consistently/easily repairable, and can be broken down to make new stuff. At the same time, quality weapons are way more abundant here, so...not quite apples to apples.
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On paper, I'd hate limited stamina and destructible weapons, but in practice, they really haven't been an issue for me.
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On paper, I'd hate limited stamina and destructible weapons, but in practice, they really haven't been an issue for me.
Because if I ever got an unbreakable weapon, all your reasons fly out the window, or, um, break down like all the fragile weapons in this game.
Spoiler:
At the very least, they shouldn't break so often. Seem like a single weapon can't even last one encounter with a group of enemies, and that's just shit.
03-18-17, 01:29 AM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Yep, how fast they break is my main issue. I'll get a high powered weapon and probably half the time it breaks during the very first or second enemy I fight.
03-18-17, 06:17 AM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I'm not arguing in favor of breakable weapons, and it's something I ordinarily hate, but it suits a survival game oriented around exploration, experimentation, and resource management, especially when there's such a wealth of weapons around. Not saying it's an ideal implementation, of course.
An exchange from another forum that I agree with:
Er, nope. This argument doesn't work. If I find a cool gun - that's a worthwhile pickup / reward, even though I have to also find ammo for it.
If I find a cool sword that will break after a few minutes use, that's a minor reward at best.
If I find a cool sword that will break after a few minutes use, that's a minor reward at best.
This is the base of the criticism regarding the weapon durability and I accept it.
Are there times when I'm fighting a Lynel and I'm really pissed-off that my two best weapons just broke and he still has half health?
Absolutely!
But you know what, it makes me have to think on my feet.
I know that I've got several bows and a couple more weapons in stock and also my Bomb Runes, so there's always something I could do - maybe I could flank him from one side, maybe parry his attacks, maybe dodge a blow and get a "Flurry Rush", perhaps find a high point and paraglide over him while dropping bombs, maybe I'll just have to run away and regroup in the nearest town - there's always something I can do in the spirit of the moment and that's simply the point of it all - and I love it.
If you had unlimited weapon durability, the game would be a cakewalk, just like pretty much any other Zelda game.
Are there times when I'm fighting a Lynel and I'm really pissed-off that my two best weapons just broke and he still has half health?
Absolutely!
But you know what, it makes me have to think on my feet.
I know that I've got several bows and a couple more weapons in stock and also my Bomb Runes, so there's always something I could do - maybe I could flank him from one side, maybe parry his attacks, maybe dodge a blow and get a "Flurry Rush", perhaps find a high point and paraglide over him while dropping bombs, maybe I'll just have to run away and regroup in the nearest town - there's always something I can do in the spirit of the moment and that's simply the point of it all - and I love it.
If you had unlimited weapon durability, the game would be a cakewalk, just like pretty much any other Zelda game.
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03-18-17, 12:02 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I'd be fine if it were a "cakewalk" 
The game is already bloated as it is, not having to scramble trough a menu with extra time devoted to item-management would be an improvement to the game.
Also, it's not like unbreakable weapons would suddenly give you a "win-button". It would just make the game flow better and not break up immersion as much, which to me is far more important than this strategic variety, or whatever the fuck people are using to justify this shitty game mechanic.
The game is already bloated as it is, not having to scramble trough a menu with extra time devoted to item-management would be an improvement to the game.
Also, it's not like unbreakable weapons would suddenly give you a "win-button". It would just make the game flow better and not break up immersion as much, which to me is far more important than this strategic variety, or whatever the fuck people are using to justify this shitty game mechanic.
03-18-17, 03:10 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
No, but that'd take a game that constantly keeps players on its toes and makes it more static and stale. I'm not trying to justify anything, and like most people, I have a long list of things about Breath of the Wild that I'm not crazy about. Destructible weapons are so low on the list for me that I can't even relate to the outcry.
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03-18-17, 08:41 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I do agree that how fast the weapons break is a bit of a pain at times. Overall though it doesn't bother me too badly as it's fairly easy to find new ones around.
03-18-17, 09:53 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I think what's more annoying is the goddamn rain. Happens way too ofthen and You pretty much have wait it out if You're attempting a climb.
03-19-17, 02:10 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Finished it this morning. I still got side stuff and shrines to get but I'm going to take a break and play some other stuff before doing that. For me I don't think it's quite the best game ever or even best Zelda ever that people have been saying but it's still a well made Zelda game and I'm happy they are willing to try new things with their big franchises.
03-19-17, 08:44 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Finished tonight as well. With as much as I died in the over worlds, the bosses were a joke. Gannon was laughably easy. Once you figure out the shield perry, nothing posses a threat. That beng said. I loved this game, was a ton of fun, and there is still so much left to do.
03-19-17, 09:59 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Finished tonight as well. With as much as I died in the over worlds, the bosses were a joke. Gannon was laughably easy. Once you figure out the shield perry, nothing posses a threat. That beng said. I loved this game, was a ton of fun, and there is still so much left to do.
03-20-17, 03:52 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Yeah, coming to this from Dark Souls III, the bosses are insanely easy in comparison. Still really enjoying the challenge of the journey. The overworld enemies can be tough at times.
03-20-17, 04:00 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Are the recipes you find/create not saved anywhere? It's so odd to me that the cooking isn't streamlined with as much as central a concept it is to the game mechanics.
03-20-17, 05:42 PM
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03-20-17, 09:50 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I'm playing this game as much as I can - and with a new baby at home, our second child, it hasn't been easy - and I'm really loving what this game has done. It's definitely the best Zelda I've probably played since Ocarina of Time. The open world exploration is a lot of fun, and there's always something you come across, people you meet, shrines, new large enemy 'bosses' to tackle, etc. Quite fun to just run about. I also really appreciate how the narrative bits, as far and far between as they may be, actually provide this game with more structure in story than any Zelda game we've seen in some time, as well.
But I can't objectively disagree with any of the complaints that have been levied against it, either. The weapon durability thing... it makes sense to a certain degree, but Nintendo leaned way too heavily into this component of the game. Cooking just stops being fun after a while, and becomes a chore. The 'better' weapons you obtain from shrines are still fairly brittle. The stamina meter is a bit too unforgiving in the early portion of the game. There also seems to be little reason to actually engage in those enemy camps most of the time because most of the time the reward they offer is just a pittance.
But still... everything else about this game comes together in such a way that I really, really love spending time with it. Zelda has made me put basically everything I wanted to play in February on the back burner until some future date.
But I can't objectively disagree with any of the complaints that have been levied against it, either. The weapon durability thing... it makes sense to a certain degree, but Nintendo leaned way too heavily into this component of the game. Cooking just stops being fun after a while, and becomes a chore. The 'better' weapons you obtain from shrines are still fairly brittle. The stamina meter is a bit too unforgiving in the early portion of the game. There also seems to be little reason to actually engage in those enemy camps most of the time because most of the time the reward they offer is just a pittance.
But still... everything else about this game comes together in such a way that I really, really love spending time with it. Zelda has made me put basically everything I wanted to play in February on the back burner until some future date.
03-21-17, 07:39 AM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Having a great time with this so far. Right now I'm running around trying to find/complete the temples. I've got the boss fight in the giant elephant waiting for me, which is why I am trying to increase the number of heart vessels I have.
And boy, they weren't kidding about being able to go pretty much anywhere you can see. I've had the most fun just wandering around and seeing what I can see.
And boy, they weren't kidding about being able to go pretty much anywhere you can see. I've had the most fun just wandering around and seeing what I can see.
03-21-17, 10:55 AM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
Love to throw 5 hearty radishes into the cauldron and get 12+ hearts added to my health.
03-21-17, 10:58 AM
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03-21-17, 11:34 AM
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03-21-17, 05:02 PM
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Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Breath Of The Wild (March 3, 2017 - Switch/Wii U)
I'm still confused on how quest tracking works. Main Quests always point to the next objective but none of the side quests seem to work that way? It just points you to the quest giver. Do you need to unlock the part of the map that contains the next odjective location?