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Old 10-20-16, 10:24 AM   #26
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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It seems safe to assume that the "pro controllers" will sync with the portable unit as well. Having those only work with a home dock would be monumentally stupid.
Yeah, I think I saw that in the video, and Nintendo has confirmed that this is the case:

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Gaming springs into action by removing detachable Joy-Con controllers from either side of Nintendo Switch. One player can use a Joy-Con controller in each hand; two players can each take one; or multiple Joy-Con can be employed by numerous people for a variety of gameplay options. They can easily click back into place or be slipped into a Joy-Con Grip accessory, mirroring a more traditional controller. Or, if preferred, the gamer can select an optional Nintendo Switch Pro Controller to use instead of the Joy-Con controllers. Furthermore, it is possible for numerous people to bring their Nintendo Switch systems together to enjoy local multiplayer face-to-face competition.
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Old 10-20-16, 10:33 AM   #27
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Old 10-20-16, 10:43 AM   #28
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

*sigh*
Take my money, Nintendo.

Any guesses on pricing?
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Old 10-20-16, 10:45 AM   #29
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*sigh*
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Any guesses on pricing?
$299 is the going guess.
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Old 10-20-16, 10:46 AM   #30
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I wonder if the docking station can be purchased separately so that people can buy more than one and place them in different rooms in the house (without having to buy new system each time).

I may not purchase the system day one, but I will get it eventually… I always seem to.

… Basically it'll be for the Zelda game.
You could just use the Wii U to play zelda.
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Old 10-20-16, 10:51 AM   #31
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

I have an iPhone 6Plus, so screen size isn't issue for me but most games simply don't work well on phones. I play Smurfs' Village and PokemonGo. Sometimes Hearthstone. But for "real" games, we have a 2DS and a 3DS because that's what they were designed for.

Mobile gaming is big, but games designed for a good piece of hardware (like a Nintendo portable) are simply a notch above.
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Old 10-20-16, 10:53 AM   #32
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I don't see all that tech costing just $300
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Old 10-20-16, 10:53 AM   #33
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I agree. Mobile gaming is huge, but the games played on phones simply aren't the same.

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I don't see all that tech costing just $300
It depends on the specs, as it is now this is a tablet with a docking station (that charges and does HDMI output).
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Old 10-20-16, 10:54 AM   #34
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re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch

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*sigh*
Take my money, Nintendo.

Any guesses on pricing?
Nintendo has said that the Wii U launched at too high a price point, so I've gotta think that $299 is the absolute ceiling (at least outside of any premium-type bundles) with $249-$299 being more ideal, although that seems like a really tall order for what you get. I guess it depends on what comes with the base package and what's extra. With the way it's being marketed, I'd be surprised if the dock were sold separately, but that's a possibility.
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Old 10-20-16, 11:02 AM   #35
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Interesting theory, Adam. You're probably right. The "core" tablet & mini controllers could easily be the base system, and people can just add on what they want.

But those controls are TINY
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Old 10-20-16, 11:13 AM   #36
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That's an extreme case, though. You're taking half a controller and making it a full one temporarily. Cost effective, at least.
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Old 10-20-16, 11:29 AM   #37
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I'm in. I'm a mobile gamer these days with a 3ds in my bag
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Old 10-20-16, 12:54 PM   #38
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It depends on the specs, as it is now this is a tablet with a docking station (that charges and does HDMI output).
Yeah, in my opinion its not hard to see it costing $300 at all. For instance, as a comparison the Nvidia Shield Tablet (which I own) using an older Tegra chip was re-released the other year at $200 and that can run Android ports of games from the last generation just fine. You can even buy a full sized controller to pair with it

I don't think there's anything that unique about the hardware here at all that isn't already available (albeit in more complicated fashion and minus the game support) that the Switch is trying to offer here.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:04 PM   #39
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Yep. According to Verge, the Switch is indeed powered by a custom nVidia Tegra chip. In many ways, this is essentially the Shield 2.0.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/20/1...ts-new-console

$299 starting price seems reasonable.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:07 PM   #40
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Yup, Nvidia has a blog post about it too, which matches what the rumors said a few months back - https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/1...ntendo-switch/
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Old 10-20-16, 01:09 PM   #41
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I give nVidia a lot of props on that, they turned their one current failing product into a potentially huge win with this. Don't get me wrong, I like the Shield, but it never really sold that well.

The other bit of potential here is PC streaming, that would be an incredibly nice perk for a small subset of Nintendo gamers.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:24 PM   #42
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The problem with this system for me will be why would i want to play inferior looking/performing versions of games that i can play on the new ps4/xboxs, taking them mobile would be cool but i'm not gonna buy the same game twice

Then it boils down to do i want a system just for the few first party titles that will be coming out on it and the answer is no
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Old 10-20-16, 01:25 PM   #43
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Now I'm really confused. People are actually excited about this? I guess I don't see the appeal. It's basically a Wii U that you can use outside of your house. But how many people would would lug around a Wii U gamepad outside of their house anyways? The scenarios in that video were hilarious (playing at the basketball court, on the roof top, in a gym, etc). Maybe I'm missing something, but usually when I leave my house, the last thing I want to take with me is a tablet. If anything, the fear of that thing breaking and they system being useless afterwards would be enough to leave it at home.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:25 PM   #44
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So the mobile screen needs a cover, right? Did I miss that? I wonder if the dock will allow those to remain in place...
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Old 10-20-16, 01:30 PM   #45
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I like the look of it, but its not so different from the Wii-U to make me want to go out and get it right away, especially if its on the pricey side. I don't game that much on the go, so for me that side of it is not really as appealing. But its a nice looking machine and will keep an eye on it. When the price comes to a reasonable level i will take it under more consideration.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:39 PM   #46
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I agree with what a friend said, this is what the Wii U should have been 4 years ago.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:40 PM   #47
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Looking forward to overspending on my next Zelda/Mario machine.

If the Zelda game isn't diminished in any way for the Wii U I'll probably stick with that but if there's some ability or function that is better on the Switch I'll wind up with one I'm sure.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:40 PM   #48
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I don't get the WiiU comparison at all. It's a single-screen system. It just happens to have a small screen you can take away from the tv.

From the looks of what they've shown, this is a traditional console. It's a Gamecube 2.0.

No waggle. No motion. No inventory or map on your lap.
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Old 10-20-16, 01:46 PM   #49
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I really don't see this doing very well.

It seems to be more of a niche product. Nintendo's trying to fill a need that doesn't really exist.

It's a "me too" product that's trying to carve out a market from home console gamers, portable console gamers and phone/tablet gamers. But it doesn't appear to be offering much more than what's already out there.

They've changed their target audience based on the video. Not seeing any young kids or families... it's basically 20-somethings. Not sure they'll be all that captivated by this.

And the multi-player scenario sharing the same screen isn't a realistic. The screen is just too small to sit that far back from.
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I don't get the WiiU comparison at all. It's a single-screen system. It just happens to have a small screen you can take away from the tv.

From the looks of what they've shown, this is a traditional console. It's a Gamecube 2.0.

No waggle. No motion. No inventory or map on your lap.
The only comparison I guess would be the portable screen with the controllers attached kind of looks like the Wii U controller.
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