Dan

Dammit. I guess I'll have to check out the demo.
I was happy with NFS:Rivals, despite not playing it for months.

Decker

Yeah, the demo's pretty great. Why the hell can't this game be one of the many that Best Buy is giving a $10 GC with? I'm way more into it than most of what they offer (and I think it's the only Xbox One exclusive game not to get that promo).

starseed1981

Didn't even know there was a demo. Thx guys.

chuckd21

The game has digital only collector's editions, but they're each $10 off right now. After the demo is over is prompts you to maybe go ahead and pre-order the game. I got the middle bundle for $70 (normally $80).

Decker

I don't think that's exactly right. The Collector's editions both contain the VIP Pass. Normally the VIP Pass is $20, but if you are a Forza 5 VIP owner (came with the Limited Edition of that game), you get a $10 discount on this VIP Pass. I think the reason I'm seeing (and you're seeing) a $10 discount on the Limited Editions of that game is the reflection of that $10 VIP-owner discount.
Do you have the Forza 5 VIP pass Chuck?

chuckd21

Ah okay, that's what it is. Yes I have the Forza 5 VIP pass.

chess

I'm a little jelly on this one. I'm a big fan of open world racers like Burnout Paradise and NFS Rivals, and this looks both similar and great. I especially like the off road tire tracks and foliage destruction.

It does have one pet peeve of mine though, and I might not explain this well...maybe find a video or something. In chase cam, it looks like the handling and the camera pivot around the center of the car. It always looks off to me because a car should pivot around its front axle, especially if it oversteers like any RWD car would. It seems like such a trivial thing, but it's huge to me.

Videos to illustrate the handling/camera difference...and to show how pretty FH2 looks:

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Adam Tyner

It was a coin flip for me between this and DriveClub. I burned off a bunch of Reward Zone points to preorder DriveClub, and now I'm thinking that coin may have flipped the wrong way. D'oh!

I got swept up in the idea of it being a gift for my by-then-wife, who's a racing game fanatic, arriving the first day back after our honeymoon.

Decker

I don't think anyone should pre-order Driveclub. You'll get ample opportunity to try the actual game - not a demo, but a fifth of the tracks and all the game modes on launch day. If you like the game and the handling, buy the game then (either via the $49.99 digital upgrade or via disc). There's no advantage to pre-ordering it. No bonuses, no discounts.

If you used the Reward Zone certs, then that's better than losing them. If you don't like the PS Plus free version, you can return the unopened game and they'd re-issue the certs anyway.

chuckd21

It's amusing how the game is all "Look how beautiful this European countryside is. DESTROY IT!"

flashburn

If you're playing in anything other than the bumper or in car views you are playing the wrong way. 😃

Decker

I did think it's odd that plowing through wheat fields doesn't significantly change your car's handling. It seems like you should be skidding around like crazy and slowing way down. Instead it handles like the world's fastest Combine harvester.

chess

I always play chase cam. Not sure why.

I guess it's partly that I like to look at the car and watch it drift, and it also feels less claustrophobic to me.

Music

Ditto

Decker

I think it depends on the game, but in Forza 5 I always play via the in-car view (except for the right-hand drive cars).

chess

That's racist.

flashburn

You need to turn off assists and turn on the simulation settings.

starseed1981

Ok, never played the original but I did download this demo. It didn't really feel more "arcadey" than Forza 5 (which was the first Forza game I ever played) but I liked what I played.

starseed1981

Not to thread jack but how does this work? Day one demo?

Edit: N/M saw your post in the DC thread

mugwump

I usually play with in car view for Forza but the open world nature of Horizons 2 has me using chase cam as it's easier to spot potential shortcuts and obstacles. I also appreciate the fact that the demo offers three very different cars to try out as it highlights just how important car selection will be given the varied race types -- I can't control that Audi to save my life once I get off pavement.

flashburn

All I drove was the Audi and I had a blast racing off road with it. I was playing with Simulation steering enabled and TCS/Stability off, it didn't seem too bad to keep straight, and drifted like a pro.

Is there a way to switch to the other two cars in the demo after you pick the car?

FuQ

They absolutely are, I played the demo last night and Turn 10 logo is prominently displayed.

Decker

It turns out it kinda has the promo. No it's not listed in the $10 Reward Certificate with Pre-Order promo. But if you look at the item pre-order page, you see that if you pre-order by 9/27/14 and buy the game, you get a $10 Xbox Live Code and an in-game car (BMW M6 Coupe). That $10 credit would cover my VIP Pass and car pack. Good enough for me with GCU discount. Pre-ordered!

Music

But you would get a slight discount with GCU ($2) plus points back for the purchase itself...

Decker

Well, with tax the games are $51.84 in NV. My Reward Zone points would be 100 with GCU, where 250 = $5 -- $2 in Rewards essentially. So no difference I suppose. But I bought discounted PSN credit at Target. Maybe the disc version could be considered preferable because it comes with 3 months of PS Plus.
In either case, my point is that there's no reason to pre-order DRIVECLUB (unlike the bonuses you get from Forza Horizons 2). I would recommend trying the free version out before opening the disc or paying for the full version on PSN. No extra discounts, no pre-order bonuses offered here.