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Old 12-13-13, 06:48 PM   #51
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It's the first console generation where neither console manufacturers are losing money per each console sold. I'm sure that plays into the fact that the tech specs (and the less than impressive graphics) aren't as impressive as high end PC's. That said, I've been pretty impressed by the graphics in Killzone and Ryse.
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Old 12-13-13, 07:18 PM   #52
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I wonder if this will be another short console generation. If these consoles are already outdated compared to PCs, in four years they are going to seem ancient.
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Old 12-13-13, 07:51 PM   #53
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I wouldn't consider them outdated compared to PCs, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 struggled to be on par with PCs for a majority of their life time. There just is no realistic way to making a 5 year future-proof console that pushes [email protected] with very high to ultra detail without it costing over a grand.

That said, I am playing a nearly maxed out copy of Assassin's Creed IV in 1080p on my big screen on a $200 card. I don't think I was ever able to max out current games on previous graphic cards without paying at least $500.

That said, Nvidia put out some guides on a few newer games (ie: AC IV) with proper settings for each setup. They try to achieve 40fps minimum FPS at 1080p. Mine recommends using FXAA but I've been running with TXAA 4X with no noticeable slow down ( I will admit, I am not capturing the framerate ). My goal for the most part is to stay on par with the console counterparts, this is easy to blow past as both the Xbox One and PS4 versions of this game run at 30 FPS locked. The Wii U version rarely hits above 25 fps.

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Old 12-13-13, 09:41 PM   #54
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I wouldn't consider them outdated compared to PCs, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 struggled to be on par with PCs for a majority of their life time. There just is no realistic way to making a 5 year future-proof console that pushes [email protected] with very high to ultra detail without it costing over a grand.
Sure, outdated is not the right word, the actual hardware in both systems is actually pretty cutting edge. Underpowered is the correct word. The last generation systems at launch Microsoft was losing something like $200-$500 per system sold, and Sony was losing over $500.
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Old 12-13-13, 11:44 PM   #55
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For those of you just getting started into PC gaming, you don't need to go really crazy. I spent about $800 on parts last year to build a new machine (was able to re-use a couple things from my old rig like the hard drives and dvd drive). Ended up with a machine that could run newer games like Sleeping Dogs at over 60fps with no problems, and this was with only a $100 graphics card.

I got a new case, power supply, i5, 8GB RAM, some nVidia card that I don't have anymore (wasn't able to run FarCry 3 at 60fps), a power supply, a 24" LCD monitor, and a handful of fans for that price.
And you don't even need to go that far. Just throwing a decent graphics card into a stock desktop (think a Dell or HP), can give new life to an older PC. You won't be at the bleeding edge, but depending on what you have you may be able to run a lot of current games adequately, and older games perfectly.

That's one thing I really like about PC gaming is the versatility. You only need to pay for what you actually need. It's just doing the research to determine what that is that can be a bit of a pain in the ass.
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Old 12-14-13, 06:17 AM   #56
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Sure, outdated is not the right word, the actual hardware in both systems is actually pretty cutting edge. Underpowered is the correct word. The last generation systems at launch Microsoft was losing something like $200-$500 per system sold, and Sony was losing over $500.
Yeah, underpowered is the word I was looking for. These consoles aren't even running all games at 1080p yet. That's just sad in 2013. 1440p is becoming the new norm with PCs. Heck, some of the more "hardcore" PC gamers have three monitors linked for even higher resolutions.

I think another problem is that the last generation of consoles just lasted too long. If these new consoles had come out a year or two ago, they would have been much more impressive.
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I think another problem is that the last generation of consoles just lasted too long. If these new consoles had come out a year or two ago, they would have been much more impressive.
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Old 12-14-13, 02:23 PM   #58
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Yeah, underpowered I guess is the right word. In the past i'd be impressed with stuff like Gears of War or various Metal Gear Solid releases over the games coming out in the PC world at the same time, but with so much cross-platform stuff and the fairly conservative specs on these consoles, it just seems like a weird time to me. Although a big plus for PC gamers, I suppose.

As far as PC game performance, I think it helps that it seems like both CPU and GPU tech has slowed down a bit the last few years. The leap from Sandy Bridge to Ivy Bridge and now Haswell hasn't been that significant, so my i5 2500K is still a champ after 3 years. And although the 290 and 780 from AMD and Nvidia are new designs, everything else are basically rebadged cards from the last year or two which pushes the price points down for gaming at 1080p.
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Old 12-14-13, 03:33 PM   #59
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Intel has been holding back waiting for AMD to compete. We could have had the 8 core mainstream chips 2 years ago. I can't wait to see skyrocket prices on new Haswell-E MBs, CPUs, and new DDR4 ram.
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Old 12-16-13, 08:44 AM   #60
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Re: PC Gaming Thread

This is sort of an overlap but:

SteamOS Installation on VirtualBox

Build Your Own Steam Machine

Supported games: Basically any Steam Linux game, including Metro Last Light, Football Manager 2014, Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs, Team Fortress 2, Monaco, Counter-Strike (& Source), Left 4 Dead 2, Planetary Annihilation, Europa Universalis IV, Serious Sam 3: BFE, Half-Life Complete, Broken Sword 5, Frozen Synapse, etc;

If Steam can get this to catch on, many more developers will be porting over to Linux/SteamOS as well, the biggest company to commit so far is DICE.

The Just Cause 2 Multiplayer Mod is set to launch today as well, turning the game into a thousand player+ multiplayer game .




Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance is due on PC/Steam "any day now" as well.



I think this was in direct response to DmC and Lord of Shadows turning out so well on PC (both have similar gameplay to MGR:R)

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Old 12-16-13, 11:43 AM   #61
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I think this was in direct response to DmC and Lord of Shadows turning out so well on PC (both have similar gameplay to MGR:R)

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interestingly enough, on my mediocre laptop, I can pull off ultra settings in DMC somehow.
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Old 12-17-13, 10:38 AM   #62
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For anyone that plays Planetside 2, a big patch that in part balances the game out is being released today.

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/...pm-cet.162621/

Assassin's Creed IV DLC is now available as well.

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Old 12-17-13, 12:42 PM   #63
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For some reason I decided to get Fallout 3 GOTY, it was $6 or something. The mod community is just crazy. Crazy I say!

And yeah, I already have played more than 200 hours in the Xbox 360.

But they have this new mod, where you have a sister, looks awesome!
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Old 12-17-13, 12:51 PM   #64
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a game that will blow your mind with mods on PC is Left 4 Dead 2. There are TONS of completely new campaigns to play. it is ridiculous
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Old 12-17-13, 01:20 PM   #65
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Speaking of triple monitor setups. I'm considering hooking my new PC to three monitors. I currently have it attached to a 42 inch TV. Any ideas on a good set of monitors? I really don't have much experience with PC gaming monitors lol.
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Old 12-17-13, 03:59 PM   #66
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What do you want to do?

And what kind of hardware do you have?

Other than that, your typical 3 24'' (1080p) from a good brand: Dell, Asus, etc.
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Old 12-17-13, 04:51 PM   #67
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What do you want to do?

And what kind of hardware do you have?

Other than that, your typical 3 24'' (1080p) from a good brand: Dell, Asus, etc.
I'm primarily using my new PC for gaming and media storage. I've been reading up on monitors today and a lot of people mentioned the BenQ XL2420TE. Not sure if it is really a noticeable difference in quality over the cheaper screens that Asus puts out that many seem happy with.

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Old 12-17-13, 09:47 PM   #68
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The latest GeForce Experience lets you stream to Twitch, for those with Nvidia cards.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/17/g...ame-streaming/
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Old 12-19-13, 11:11 AM   #69
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Assassin's Creed IV just got a PhysX update:



Lot of complaints about how the game runs on PC. Maybe it's because of my video card being recent but it runs beautifully here.

Metal Gear Rising is $19.99 (Pre-Order, due Jan 9th, 2014) on Steam.

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Old 12-21-13, 08:34 PM   #70
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Since it's called PC gaming thread...



What a unique and original gaming experience. I got it on sale over at Steam but I would've paid full price had i known how great the game was. I guess I would describe it as
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an examination at non-linear vs linear level design. Do we really have a choice in games?


I can see this being used in video game classes in the future. It really deserves to be on best of 2013 games lists...
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Old 01-03-14, 02:11 PM   #71
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This article seems appropriate for a lot of people after Steam sales.

http://kotaku.com/were-buying-more-p...lay-1493402988
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Old 01-03-14, 02:17 PM   #72
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Also, this site is fun if you plug in your steam ID. I'm not that crazy, but here's mine...

http://steamdb.info/calculator/?play...an&currency=us

My Steam Profile (from SteamDB)
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Old 01-03-14, 05:35 PM   #73
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I be cray cray

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Old 01-03-14, 05:38 PM   #74
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All those games and only 69 hours played?
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Old 01-03-14, 06:02 PM   #75
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My Steam Profile (from SteamDB)

  • Worth: $2262.42
  • Games owned: 185
  • Games not played: 107
  • Percentage: 58%
  • Hours spent: 274.0h

The dollar amount spent is obviously incorrect as I've purchased most of those games well below the current price.
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