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Old 08-28-17, 08:03 PM   #8026
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Right, true.
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Old 08-28-17, 08:45 PM   #8027
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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I'm interested in purchasing an X, but I've read more discussion about Lara's face, than actual games.
The main appeal of the XB1X is the improved graphics, it doesn't have any exclusive games; all games play on all XB1 consoles.

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Couldn't Microsoft and Sony release these upgraded consoles in the first place?
That's like asking why didn't they just release the PS4 Pro instead of the original Playstation, or the XBX1 instead of the original Xbox. Technology changes over time, and costs for ever more storage/memory/processing power drop.

An XB1X released at the time of the launch of the original XB1 would've cost probably double, around $1000, if it was even technically feasible at the time to cram that much processing power onto a single chip.
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Old 08-28-17, 09:07 PM   #8028
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

so if you're not 4K as of yet and don't plan to do so in near future, the new XBOX won't really make sense, correct?
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Old 08-28-17, 09:14 PM   #8029
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so if you're not 4K as of yet and don't plan to do so in near future, the new XBOX won't really make sense, correct?
Not necessarily. For example, with Rise of the Tomb Raider, there's 3 "enhanced" modes. 2 are 4K modes, but the 3rd plays 1080p at 60fps, instead of the 30fps on the original Xbox One. Other games are likely to have similar enhanced modes for 1080p TVs.
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Not necessarily. For example, with Rise of the Tomb Raider, there's 3 "enhanced" modes. 2 are 4K modes, but the 3rd plays 1080p at 60fps, instead of the 30fps on the original Xbox One. Other games are likely to have similar enhanced modes for 1080p TVs.
well, that is nice...
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Old 08-30-17, 08:21 AM   #8031
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Have they mentioned if they are going to have a boost type mode like the Pro does? Anything to help with load times and such?
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

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Have they mentioned if they are going to have a boost type mode like the Pro does? Anything to help with load times and such?
Basically, the XB1X is always in boost mode when playing un-enhanced games (including 360 titles). It's not a switch that needs to be flipped on. Snippets from Eurogamer's rundown:

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What this means in practice is that games that cannot fully sustain their target frame-rate on Xbox One stand a really good chance of doing so on Scorpio.
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A popular technique in games development is to adapt dynamic resolution scaling. The idea here is straightforward: when a game is in danger of losing its lock on its performance target, be it 30fps or 60fps, the title scales down the image, running it at a lower resolution in order to maintain a smoother frame-rate.

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With the additional performance of the Scorpio Engine, we expect to see those titles hit the maximum render resolution that those titles support," says Goossen. "As you know, we can't boost it to 4K, but definitely the maximum resolution the game supports, we should be able to run it."
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"We built into the hardware the capability of overwriting all bilinear and all trilinear fetches to be anisotropic," Andrew Goossen reveals. "And then we've dialled up the anisotropic all the way up to max. All of our titles by default when you're running on Scorpio, they'll be full anisotropic."
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In a world where a Battlefield 1 campaign level can take anything up to two minutes to load, this one is especially welcome. "We're able to say that game loads will be fundamentally faster," Goossen reveals. "There are three ways we say that - one of which is the CPU boost. The 31 per cent CPU boost in terms of clock will help games that are CPU-bound in terms of their IO."
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"The second one is that we've that we've improved the hard disk speed," Goossen adds. "We're actually promising developers a 50 per cent improvement in overall bandwidth for the purposes of driving 4K textures, but this also helps us in this situation where you're running existing Xbox One and Xbox 360 titles. They will also benefit from the faster hard disk."
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Ah, well that's good to hear then. Maybe it will help with game install times from disc as well.
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Digital Foundry has a Halo Wars 2 XB1/PC/XB1X comparison up, with the caveat that the XB1X build isn't final.

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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

List Of Xbox One X Enhanced Games Grows To Over 130, Console Pre-orders Now Available.

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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

I still want to bet that you will see some Scorpio consoles in the wild on release day once some of the pre-orders fall through. I don't see a reason in pre-ordering the regular version, even though there isn't much of a difference between the two.
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I still want to bet that you will see some Scorpio consoles in the wild on release day once some of the pre-orders fall through. I don't see a reason in pre-ordering the regular version, even though there isn't much of a difference between the two.
Yeah, I'm considering canceling my pre-order. I don't know...
If I do, I should probably sell my S sooner than later, just to make up the difference a bit.
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

Some Best Buy locations are going to have demo units up and running the Xbox One X this weekend only.

Saturday, September 23: 12 noon–7 p.m.
Sunday, September 24: 11 a.m.–6 p.m.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xbox-on...7&eut=12527946
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

I have a Scorpio edition pre-ordered. I prefer the simple black aesthetics of the regular.

What am I missing beside the annoying green lettering and the "prestige"?
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I have a Scorpio edition pre-ordered. I prefer the simple black aesthetics of the regular.

What am I missing beside the annoying green lettering and the "prestige"?
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Don't forget about the green "Project Scorpio" lettering on the controller!! Should go great with those Day One controllers out there
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

i'm still so unsure if i need this X. i have the preorder, but no 4K capabilities as of yet and not planning anytime soon. i know it runs older games better, but what else?
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no 4K capabilities as of yet and not planning anytime soon. i know it runs older games better, but what else?
XB1X games can have a variety of enhancements, including running at 1080p with better framerates and/or additional effects.

But it's not mandatory to upgrade, and you're not going to lose out by not being able to play any games if you don't upgrade. It's just a better overall experience, similar to a PC upgrade.
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

ok, thanks. still have some time to decide. i mean my One works fine (except stupid Kinect sensor) and know someone who will buy it if i do decide, but we'll see...
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

my kinect and Elite controller will of course work with X right?
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As much as the Kinect works with the Xbox One, sure.
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Re: Xbox One: S $249 Now / X $499 November 7 2017

...although there's hasn't been word if there'll be a Kinect adapter promotion with the X like there was with the S, so you'll probably have to pony up $40 for an adapter. Fingers crossed, though.
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