Official PS3 Thread - March 09 Edition

[Ocelot]

the new price drop news/rumor begins:
http://www.2old2play.com/News/PlaySt...2nd_is_The_Day

The current "rumor" is that the PlayStation 3 80GB console will retail for USD $300. That would be a $99 price reduction in the console, bringing it closer to reach for many gamers. However, be prepared for Sony to refuse to comment or straight out say this is untrue, it wouldn't be the first time they've pulled that stunt. It's in Sony's best interest to hide the price drop from gamers because we'll halt purchasing of the PS3 until the price drop occurs.

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by dsa_shea

My PS3 was dead in the water with the YLOD or flashing red light. You get no warning it is coming and it makes backing up the hard drive impossible. Also, even if you are able to do this you will lose all of the stuff that is copy prohibited. This includes games that you spend countless hours on like: Rock Band 1 and 2, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Guitar Hero, Mercenaries 2 and others to name some of the more popular titles. Excuse me while I go tear down the walls.

Oyi, i bet you're feeling like ants on a hot pan... Okay, here's what i would do if i'm in your shoes (and no, i really don't want to be in your shoes right now).

use a 2nd working PS3 to help you out... Swap the hdd of the working PS3 with the one you have. Then use the working PS3's BACKUP option to transfer the contents to an external hdd. This will save the exact image of your broken PS3's content. So, if you ever get the broken PS3 fixed, use that to fully restore your PS3.

Now, with the "new" PS3, you should be able to use all of the game saves and game files. The only thing you won't be able to play are the PSN downloads... For those contents are linked to consoles. You'll need to redownload them... If you haven't use up the SIX download counts, you can download them to the "new" PS3. First you'll need to relink the "new" PS3 to your PSN account of course. If the contents are no longer in PSN, don't worry, they should be in your PSN download history, so yeah, add to your cart again...

it's a bit like my hectic upgrade from the 60gb original PS3 to the 40gb gunmetal PS3... i hope all works out for you

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by Raul3

Yeah, that's why he's asking for a windows (I guess) program, that can read the old PS3 drive and backup the files. I haven't heard of something like that, my guess is that there should be something I've never looked for it.

That's quite complicated... i think like Fujishiq said earlier, a 3rd party software is required for this.

If you just pop the PS3 hdd into the external casing thing and pluck it to the Windows PC, the external hdd letter will not show up...

and yes, it should be something no one ever have to look into...

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by fujishig

ah, sorry, should've read the original post more closely.

Also, didn't realize that the backup won't allow you to back up the copy prohibited files? Anyone know how this is restricted?

oh crap, on a 2nd thought, you have a valid point there...

i'm not sure using a working PS3 will allow you backup the copy prohibited files... oh man, this makes your head spin! It shouldn't be restricted in theory, but since the working PS3 will not show the hdd's downloaded content, how the hell you know the downloaded contents will be backed up?

[musick]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

the new price drop news/rumor begins:
http://www.2old2play.com/News/PlaySt...2nd_is_The_Day

well if I believed everything an EB Games store employee told me I'd be ...... stupid

[redbill]

the HD backup will not backup copy-protected files (e.g. Rockband).

[Brewc]

I wish I could figure out the slow downloads as well, I had an old wrt54G router it would do wireless and wired at the same speed slooow to PS3. I have a new one now, the WRT160N and I can't even get it to connect wirelessly but its 3 ft from the PS3 so I have it wired, but it's as slow as the old old one. I got COD wow and had to do the update for it and it took 20 minutes to download the 170 mbfile, WTF is up with that and demo's take at least that long as well.

[dsa_shea]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

That's quite complicated... i think like Fujishiq said earlier, a 3rd party software is required for this.

If you just pop the PS3 hdd into the external casing thing and pluck it to the Windows PC, the external hdd letter will not show up...

and yes, it should be something no one ever have to look into...

When I decide to drop in my 320gb into the redud that I'm getting tomorrow it will format the drive before I can do anything with it. I can't even use another PS3 to backup even a fraction of the data as it will need to be formatted first. Sony needs to fix this now or as systems start breaking more frequently hardcore gamers are going to start telling them to fork themselver when their hard earned saves are pissed into the wind.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

Nah, just as the Achievement points in the Xbox games, don't unlock anything. However, if you want to show off your trophies, you can do so in Home. Well, to each of his/her own really, to me, inviting people over in Home is so gay (not that there's anything wrong with it). My first impression of Home was pretty good actually, a lot of friendly people. I don't know about now though. I love the dances, it was hilarious (partly because my avatar dances better than me ).

Heh heh. I was never interested in home.

Originally Posted by Ocelot

Back to trophies, most of them you get from playing the game, but some of them are truly for the anal gamers (same as the Achievements). Again, you have to see the leveling up for yourself. Once you get to level 2 etc., it's a pretty cool feeling (again, play that FF tone).

Like I said, if achievments were toward unlockables, I'd be all for it. But if it's just for bragging rights, I couldn't care less.

Originally Posted by Ocelot

i paid $45 for KZ2 and i feel like it's too expensive. I like the game, don't get me wrong, but it's not $40 good like LBP. It's all personal opinion really, i paid $8 for PJM, it's one of the best bargain i ever gotten from PSN.

I didn't know KZ2 was priced that low. Most new games I see go for $59.99 and I thought KZ2 would have followed suit. In any case, you suggest waiting for a price drop?

As for my $20 blunder, I already found a buyer. I'm selling it to the son of a friend of mine.

[RocShemp]

Wow! I didn't know it was that problematic to backup your saves. I was planning on upgrading my hdd to a 320GB one that was recommended in the previous thread. I thought it was a matter of simply transfering my saves back from the old hdd via the USB ports.

[dsa_shea]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

Wow! I didn't know it was that problematic to backup your saves. I was planning on upgrading my hdd to a 320GB one that was recommended in the previous thread. I thought it was a matter of simply transfering my saves back from the old hdd via the USB ports.

You have to do a backup to an external drive if you want your copy protected saves transferred to your new hard drive. And even then they will only transfer on that particular PS3. If you tried to transfer them to another one then you are SOL.

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by musick

well if I believed everything an EB Games store employee told me I'd be ...... stupid

That's what a lot people said

Well, March 22 is the coming Sunday, so we shall see.

[pinata242]

Did you guys ignore my post yesterday with the Target insider (with pics!) about the new "value add" pack?

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

I didn't know KZ2 was priced that low. Most new games I see go for $59.99 and I thought KZ2 would have followed suit. In any case, you suggest waiting for a price drop?

KZ2 was $53 from Amazon (there was a $5 promotional coupon). I sold the Home costume code for $15. A little fee here and there, KZ2 is really $43 for me. If you have a lot to play, just wait...

[redbill]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

That's what a lot people said

Well, March 22 is the coming Sunday, so we shall see.

wouldnt this have been confirmed by CAG or someplace that got Target or Best Buy's circulars?

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by dsa_shea

You have to do a backup to an external drive if you want your copy protected saves transferred to your new hard drive. And even then they will only transfer on that particular PS3. If you tried to transfer them to another one then you are SOL.

Yeap, that's pretty much the point as of now, sucks... I can't read the Playstation forum at the moment, but i'm guessing there gotta be a number of complaints on this. I probably want to read up on this, in case this happens to me. Again, so to hear that man.

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by redbill

wouldnt this have been confirmed by CAG or someplace that got Target or Best Buy's circulars?

Well, it's not confirmed on CAG so who knows. By tomorrow or Friday GS e-mails out their promotion for the week, so we'll know by then.

[pinata242]

Ocelot, hey! OCELOT! HEY! Look over here!

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/9331511-post46.html

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by pinata242

Did you guys ignore my post yesterday with the Target insider (with pics!) about the new "value add" pack?

sorry, not ignored but i forgot to reply...

$400 with two more games, rather than a price drop. Meh, let's see what happens next week.

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by pinata242

Ocelot, hey! OCELOT! HEY! Look over here!

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/9331511-post46.html

sorry man, i was busy this morning and i missed your post last night. No, i wasn't ignoring you

[pinata242]

I thought for sure I was on your ignore list

[Ocelot]

Oh back to the external hdd topic a bit...

In order to be used with the PS3, the external hdd has to be in FAT32. If you formatted the hdd in Windows XP/Vista, chances are the hdd is NTFS.

To change from NTFS to FAT32, you can do the following:

1. Use command prompt and type:
format /FS:FAT32 X:
where X is the letter of the hdd.

2. Use the SwissKnife application, it's free.

The reason you can't use Windows' Drive Manager to change back to FAT32 is that, it simply won't do it for you (MS don't want you to use the old FAT32 format, which can come back and bite them in the butt).

[Ocelot]

Originally Posted by pinata242

I thought for sure I was on your ignore list

Ah, come on, you're actually one of the funny guys i enjoy "chatting" with when things stir up a bit.

[dsa_shea]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

Yeap, that's pretty much the point as of now, sucks... I can't read the Playstation forum at the moment, but i'm guessing there gotta be a number of complaints on this. I probably want to read up on this, in case this happens to me. Again, so to hear that man.

There are hundreds of confirmed Yellow Light of Death victims on the Playstation forums. That is besides the tons of videos found on youtube and other topics posted on other forums. This is becoming a serious problem and Sony needs to fix it. I suggested that they come up with a data transfer device to help people recover their stuff lost on the hard drive of the dead system and transfer it to the replacement system. Instead of copy protecting the information they can tie it to a specific PSN name. That way if someone else uses the save to play at a certain part of the game all trophy accomplishments will be disabled while using that particular save. You can use the save but not gain anything from it. Protecting saves to me is just another annoyance that Sony really needs to get over. I can see them putting downloadable content from games like Rock Band, etc in the game data and making that uncopyable but your progress in the game needs to be in a seperate file and be able to be backed up. Now I'm going to have to redownload something like 150 songs on Rock Band (and my bands are gone forever) as well as recover about 40 or so Singstar songs (that are locked to one console). Besides those I've lost my hard work on Rainbow Six vegas 2, Mercenaries 2, Killzone 2 as well as other my other unlocked saves that I was unable to backup before the system killed over. They're all right there in that tiny hard drive that says "No Entrance". Sons a bitches you are Sony!

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Ocelot

Oh back to the external hdd topic a bit...

In order to be used with the PS3, the external hdd has to be in FAT32. If you formatted the hdd in Windows XP/Vista, chances are the hdd is NTFS.

To change from NTFS to FAT32, you can do the following:

1. Use command prompt and type:
format /FS:FAT32 X:
where X is the letter of the hdd.

2. Use the SwissKnife application, it's free.

The reason you can't use Windows' Drive Manager to change back to FAT32 is that, it simply won't do it for you (MS don't want you to use the old FAT32 format, which can come back and bite them in the butt).

Can't you simply get an enclosure for the old PS3 hdd and use that as an external drive?