Home Coming Soon CouponsShop ReviewsJoinEaster Eggs Advertise
Search: For:
Video Game Talk



Go Back   DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > Video Game Talk

Video Game Talk The Place to talk about and trade Video & PC Games

Reply
Thread Tools
Old 02-12-09, 09:18 AM   #26
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinata242 View Post
I'm totally intrigued by the upcoming Hasbro Game channel.
I am a little but i can already play many of those games for free on Facebook and the like. I'm also not a huge fan of the standard board game fare.

I'm wanting more info on Alhambra, Puerto Rico, Cosmic Encounter, etc.

I'm also hoping Talisman will be resurrected.

Then there were rumors of Magic the Gathering coming in a CCG format of some kind. I want info on that.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 09:21 AM   #27
pinata242
DVD Talk Legend
 
pinata242's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 16,751
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

You take what you can get. You can't get Talisman.

Speaking of which, did you see my thread for Blood Bowl?
__________________
XBL: pinata360 Wii/DS: Click for codes! PSN: pinata242
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 09:25 AM   #28
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinata242 View Post
You take what you can get. You can't get Talisman.

Speaking of which, did you see my thread for Blood Bowl?
I hadn't noticed it on here. I had discussed it a little bit on 8-Bit. I will look for your thread.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 09:26 AM   #29
pinata242
DVD Talk Legend
 
pinata242's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 16,751
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

It's lonely in there
__________________
XBL: pinata360 Wii/DS: Click for codes! PSN: pinata242
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 11:27 AM   #30
nemein
Moderator
 
nemein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: 1bit away from total disaster
Posts: 32,703
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Looking forward to Puerto Rico myself. Another one that could be fun, but haven't heard anything about is RoboRally http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/18


Quote:
Then there were rumors of Magic the Gathering coming in a CCG format of some kind. I want info on that.
I don't know about that... I mean I enjoyed playing Magic back in the day but I don't think it would translate very well as far as matching the true complexity of the game. Of course since it could be a continue revenue stream w/ boosters and expansions I suspect they will do it BTW didn't they already try this in one form or another though?
__________________
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism, but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program until one day America will be a socialist nation without ever knowing how it happened." -- Norman Thomas, Socialist Party of America

"Do the right thing even if it means dying like a dog when no one's there to see you do it." - Vice Admiral James Bond Stockdale

My Countdown Counting down to: End of the 5th world age
1124 days 15 hours 42 minutes
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 12:20 PM   #31
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by nemein View Post
Looking forward to Puerto Rico myself. Another one that could be fun, but haven't heard anything about is RoboRally http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/18




I don't know about that... I mean I enjoyed playing Magic back in the day but I don't think it would translate very well as far as matching the true complexity of the game. Of course since it could be a continue revenue stream w/ boosters and expansions I suspect they will do it BTW didn't they already try this in one form or another though?
Did you ever play the old Magic:tG on the PC? It was great! It handled all the rules bickering (timing issues and the like) and even if you disagreed with how it was handled it was at least consistent.

In that game you got a few basic packs and played against the computer. As you beat the computer you could buy new packs with in-game money to tailor your deck.

If they made a game like that on Live i would be all over it. DLC would then consist of one purchase for all the cards for each expansion. Then the player would be forced to spend in-game money (ie. not MS points) earned through winning to "buy" packs from that expansion.

It would provide a steady DLC income as we pay 10$ a pop for each expansion but it wouldn't drive people off due to having to pay for pack after pack.

I am looking forward to Puerto Rico so i can learn how to play it. I have had the board game in my closet for over a year now and have never even opened it.

edit: RoboRally would be great as well. Personally, i would like to see some folks take some of the games on Super Duper Games.com and put them on Live with decent graphics. Tons of Icehouse and Piecepack games on that site.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 12:22 PM   #32
Groucho
DVD Talk Hero
 
Groucho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 46,696
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

I played the online M:TG quite a bit back in the day. It was well implemented, and a lot of fun. It's still alive and well today.

I have RoboRally as well. It's essentially a programming game. You don't control your robot directly, instead you "program" it with the cards in your hand in order to meet certain goals. You can set up the board any way you want, so there's a lot of reply value.

Last edited by Groucho; 02-12-09 at 12:25 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 12:24 PM   #33
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
I played the online M:TG quite a bit back in the day. It was well implemented, and a lot of fun. It's still alive and well today.
Well the one that is alive now is the one where you buy individual packs of cards at retail and get digital copies. It also lets you convert digital copies to real life copies.


The game i am talking about was called Duel of the Planeswalkers and required one investment up front. All packs and things were bought with in-game winnings. It was very similar to the Yu-Gi-Oh games on the DS.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 12:27 PM   #34
Groucho
DVD Talk Hero
 
Groucho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
Posts: 46,696
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by xmiyux View Post
The game i am talking about was called Duel of the Planeswalkers and required one investment up front. All packs and things were bought with in-game winnings. It was very similar to the Yu-Gi-Oh games on the DS.
I remember that game as well. I think the chances of it being implemented on Live are just about nil since they can make far more money by charging real money for the packs.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 12:36 PM   #35
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
I remember that game as well. I think the chances of it being implemented on Live are just about nil since they can make far more money by charging real money for the packs.
But how? To have the random nature of a pack you would have to be able to buy things multiple times. Live is hard coded to allow you to redownload purchased content for free. Would they have packs 1-200 to buy individually? Sell the cards individually?

I think my proposal would work well within the current system. The basically sell you a pool of potential cards and you have to unlock them in game. That pool could be priced at 10 or 20$.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 01:12 PM   #36
Krayzie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 662
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by xmiyux View Post
Did you ever play the old Magic:tG on the PC? It was great! It handled all the rules bickering (timing issues and the like) and even if you disagreed with how it was handled it was at least consistent.

In that game you got a few basic packs and played against the computer. As you beat the computer you could buy new packs with in-game money to tailor your deck.

There used to be this third party program that let you play magic online. I think they even had pictures or at least descriptions. You would go through a listing of all the cards and pick out which ones you wanted. It was a very simple interface. I haven't played since 4th edition so it was a rather old program.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 02:05 PM   #37
Liver&Onions
Moderator
 
Liver&Onions's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Oregonzola
Posts: 9,288
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Take it to a real life board games thread geeks.
__________________
My gaming blog Twitter
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 02:32 PM   #38
kakihara1
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
Posts: 3,215
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Leave it to xmiyux to shit all over a thread. It's a standard progression for him though, board games, hippie vegetarian bullshit, and then shitty nerdcore music.
__________________
"I don't know. I find this disgusting but I can't help myself" {Ted Pikul-eXistenZ}
XBL GT= MARTIN5 Wii Friend Code = 5326 6175 1451 2219 PSN ID = kakihara1
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 03:38 PM   #39
fujishig
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Posts: 8,887
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by xmiyux View Post
But how? To have the random nature of a pack you would have to be able to buy things multiple times. Live is hard coded to allow you to redownload purchased content for free. Would they have packs 1-200 to buy individually? Sell the cards individually?

I think my proposal would work well within the current system. The basically sell you a pool of potential cards and you have to unlock them in game. That pool could be priced at 10 or 20$.
Didn't Wizards of the Coast discontinue the original online Magic game because they couldn't rape you for expansion packs?

Sony, of course, tried a CCG with their (I think superior) camera and real cards, however, the cards were still easy to fake, and the game kinda fizzled out. Still, they charged you for the OPPORTUNITY to use cards from the expansion sets, which you still had to buy packs of separately (and which must not have done all that well, since I never saw them in Target, which carried the initial sets).

Go play Culdcept instead... it's not the same, of course, but it's a decent card/board game for the 360, and it can be had for cheap.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 03:42 PM   #40
PixyJunket
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 22,406
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

They really need a separate section of Music Game Add-Ons.
__________________
Xbox 360: PixyJunket360 | Wii Code: 6412 9669 8014 0667 (PM if you add me)
"When it comes to XBLA games, $5 might as well be $5,000 to some folks." - FusionX

PixyJunket EP #1 "Dark Sparkles" Coming SOON! > PREVIEW SONG HERE
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 03:52 PM   #41
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liver&Onions View Post
Take it to a real life board games thread geeks.
Hey! We are talking about how the games could be brought to live.

Man, if only i could put moderators on my ignore list.

I played a good bit of Culdcept and it was one of the most infuriating games ever. I loved the CCG aspect of it and the deck building but the random die roles, being forced to watch the computer fight itself, and the lack of resigning when the game was essentially over killed it for me.

I have said it once. I will say it over and over.

I want a new Phantom Dust.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 03:54 PM   #42
xmiyux
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
xmiyux's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: WV
Posts: 7,475
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by Krayzie View Post
There used to be this third party program that let you play magic online. I think they even had pictures or at least descriptions. You would go through a listing of all the cards and pick out which ones you wanted. It was a very simple interface. I haven't played since 4th edition so it was a rather old program.
Yes, it was called the Apprentice.... or Wizard's Table... or something like that.

The issue with it is you had to do everything (tap cards, remove dead ones from the table etc.) and since nothing was automated it lead to rules lawyering. The reason the Live interface would be awesome on something like this is the automation of those tasks.
__________________
I'm nostalgic for conversations I had yesterday. I've begun reminiscing events before they even occur. I'm reminiscing this right now. I can't go to the bar because I've already looked back on it in my memory... and I didn't have a good time.

Live gamertag: xmiyux
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 04:12 PM   #43
PopcornTreeCt
DVD Talk Legend
 
PopcornTreeCt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 15,194
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by PixyJunket View Post
They really need a separate section of Music Game Add-Ons.


Agreed.
__________________
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 05:05 PM   #44
Shagrath
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 5,637
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by PixyJunket View Post
They really need a separate section of Music Game Add-Ons.
There is a seperate tab where you can see all of the Music Game Add-Ons.

Unfortunately (for you), it also shows up in the "All Game Add-Ons" section.
__________________
My Library - DVDProfiler
XBox360 GamerTag: XShagrath
Official DVDTalk Rock Band DLC Info & Videos
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-09, 05:18 PM   #45
UncleGramps
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Jersey represent!
Posts: 4,084
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

I usually just go right to the game page of the game I'm trying to buy DLC for.
__________________
Xbox Live GamerTag: UncleGramps
PS3 ID: UncleGramps
Wii Code: 3155 5265 7877 7786


8-Bit Brigade | Brigadier Broadcast - The 8BB Podcast
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-09, 08:58 AM   #46
PixyJunket
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 22,406
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleGramps View Post
I usually just go right to the game page of the game I'm trying to buy DLC for.
I just like see what new has been released but it's impossible to do so because it's polluted with music game tracks.
__________________
Xbox 360: PixyJunket360 | Wii Code: 6412 9669 8014 0667 (PM if you add me)
"When it comes to XBLA games, $5 might as well be $5,000 to some folks." - FusionX

PixyJunket EP #1 "Dark Sparkles" Coming SOON! > PREVIEW SONG HERE
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-09, 11:59 AM   #47
Spicollidriver1
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: MN
Posts: 5,924
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Pixy I am in the same boat on that one. I am trying to decide if I even want to turn on my xbox right now are there any new demos today or are we stuck with just H.A.W.X.
__________________
"Foley Is GoOd"
360voice
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-09, 12:06 PM   #48
pinata242
DVD Talk Legend
 
pinata242's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 16,751
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

I find Major Nelson's RSS feed handy for those sort of notifications.
__________________
XBL: pinata360 Wii/DS: Click for codes! PSN: pinata242
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-09, 12:38 PM   #49
UncleGramps
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Jersey represent!
Posts: 4,084
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinata242 View Post
I find Major Nelson's RSS feed handy for those sort of notifications.
Yeah, any demos that pop onto Live will be on that feed, and most add-ons as well.
__________________
Xbox Live GamerTag: UncleGramps
PS3 ID: UncleGramps
Wii Code: 3155 5265 7877 7786


8-Bit Brigade | Brigadier Broadcast - The 8BB Podcast
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-13-09, 12:41 PM   #50
pinata242
DVD Talk Legend
 
pinata242's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 16,751
Re: The Official Xbox 360 thread - thread hardest

With handy-dandy marketplace links to go to exactly what you want.
__________________
XBL: pinata360 Wii/DS: Click for codes! PSN: pinata242
  Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright 1999-2008 DVDTalk.com All Rights Reserved. Legal Info, Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.