Diablo III + Reaper of Souls (multi-platform)
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One thing I'd like to see in multiplayer is points in the story where you have to split up the party in order to complete certain objectives. In D2, you'd see a lot of occasions where people would just tag along and not contribute. This would force them to step up their game -- and it would add some variety to the game.
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Originally Posted by DVDsAreMyLIFE
Love the classic days of joining someones party to try and get some awesome weapon and the second it drops you grab it and log off.
Isnt it interesting that when Blizzard decided to be "hands-off" on these types of things where players are left to their own choices the game turned out this way? The good players that actually want to play the game should not have to tolerate this mess in D3.
I believe they have left D2 as it is so they can see exactly how these cheaters operate, and incorporate new security into D3.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
One thing I'd like to see in multiplayer is points in the story where you have to split up the party in order to complete certain objectives. In D2, you'd see a lot of occasions where people would just tag along and not contribute. This would force them to step up their game -- and it would add some variety to the game.
I hated when party members did nothing but fire off a few shots and then steal loot. Thats why there should be a tool to boot people out of your game.
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
That would be interesting. Having party specific quests.
I hated when party members did nothing but fire off a few shots and then steal loot. Thats why there should be a tool to boot people out of your game.
I hated when party members did nothing but fire off a few shots and then steal loot. Thats why there should be a tool to boot people out of your game.
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Originally Posted by edstein
Then the problem is asshat party leaders that boot their whole team after they beat a boss and he gets all the loot.
There just needs to be better tools available so legit players can play properly w/o having to put up with idiotic gameplay.
Every version so far of online Diablo play has turned into a haven for bots, spammers, cheaters, and hacks.
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
Dont know if you are serious here or not. But either way this only encourages the worst playstyles and selfishness. And you see how well that turned out for D2 now? Its a bot filled, cheating, PK-fest. The good/great players are loooooooog gone.
Isnt it interesting that when Blizzard decided to be "hands-off" on these types of things where players are left to their own choices the game turned out this way? The good players that actually want to play the game should not have to tolerate this mess in D3.
I believe they have left D2 as it is so they can see exactly how these cheaters operate, and incorporate new security into D3.
Isnt it interesting that when Blizzard decided to be "hands-off" on these types of things where players are left to their own choices the game turned out this way? The good players that actually want to play the game should not have to tolerate this mess in D3.
I believe they have left D2 as it is so they can see exactly how these cheaters operate, and incorporate new security into D3.
I think the good/great players are the ones who know how to use the game to there advantage. After all, once you have been through the game twice or more, it isn't about the story anymore, its about you.
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
There are going to be players who do not want to play fairly or who just want to hose people for fun. Right now the good players have no recourse but to put up with it or not play.
There just needs to be better tools available so legit players can play properly w/o having to put up with idiotic gameplay.
Every version so far of online Diablo play has turned into a haven for bots, spammers, cheaters, and hacks.
There just needs to be better tools available so legit players can play properly w/o having to put up with idiotic gameplay.
Every version so far of online Diablo play has turned into a haven for bots, spammers, cheaters, and hacks.
But like I said above you cannot bash the people who know how to play the game as it was designed. Bash Blizzard, not the player.
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Originally Posted by DVDsAreMyLIFE
Bash Blizzard, not the player.
Either way, it is like Xbox Live. You will always have people who want to trash talk and play unfairly. Hopefully, like Live, these folks can gather in the Underground and harass one another. Or i can leave feedback so i don't have to play with those folks again.
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Originally Posted by DVDsAreMyLIFE
I think the good/great players are the ones who know how to use the game to there advantage. After all, once you have been through the game twice or more, it isn't about the story anymore, its about you.
You really dont even need to build up your skills. Loot gives you pluses to everything. I had several chars that I never even used all their skill points on. There was no point really. The loot gave you all the bonuses you needed.
This is something they need to rebalance in D3.
Not sure what you mean by "using" the game.
Finding secrets and easter eggs is one thing. Making maphacks, taking advantage of flaws in code, trying to trick the game etc. is something else.
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Apparently, there still might be more to come... just got this in my inbox:
around 4:30 I guess something is said about unannounced stuff, i didn't check it though.
http://trailer.onlinewelten.com/vide...rob_pardo.html
around 4:30 I guess something is said about unannounced stuff, i didn't check it though.
http://trailer.onlinewelten.com/vide...rob_pardo.html
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I played D2 90+% of the time in password protected games. The few times I didn't I met enough people that weren't dicks that we added to our password protected game. Therefore, didn't have any of the issues with cheaters, pkers, etc.
When I did play in an open game, it was obvious in about 10 seconds if people were dicks, and I left.
I did leave after a bit anyway because at some point you've made every type of character, and you're just killing the same stuff over and over as fast as you can to try for a good drop. It was fun till then though, and I don't need one game I can play forever, so I can hardly wait for D3.
When I did play in an open game, it was obvious in about 10 seconds if people were dicks, and I left.
I did leave after a bit anyway because at some point you've made every type of character, and you're just killing the same stuff over and over as fast as you can to try for a good drop. It was fun till then though, and I don't need one game I can play forever, so I can hardly wait for D3.
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Originally Posted by Liver&Onions
Apparently, there still might be more to come... just got this in my inbox:
around 4:30 I guess something is said about unannounced stuff, i didn't check it though.
http://trailer.onlinewelten.com/vide...rob_pardo.html
around 4:30 I guess something is said about unannounced stuff, i didn't check it though.
http://trailer.onlinewelten.com/vide...rob_pardo.html
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Originally Posted by Ginwen
I did leave after a bit anyway because at some point you've made every type of character, and you're just killing the same stuff over and over as fast as you can to try for a good drop. It was fun till then though, and I don't need one game I can play forever, so I can hardly wait for D3.
Once you complete the storyline the thrill of hunting for treasure only lasts so long. And since everyone did this to death in D2, D3 needs to add something more.
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
You really dont even need to build up your skills. Loot gives you pluses to everything. I had several chars that I never even used all their skill points on. There was no point really. The loot gave you all the bonuses you needed.
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I had 2 characters pretty much through DII.
My main character..then my MF character
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
True story.
I had 2 characters pretty much through DII.
My main character..then my MF character
I had 2 characters pretty much through DII.
My main character..then my MF character
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True. I think at the end of its run just about every one in D2 had a MF character and about 10 mules. Heh!
For some reason, loot grinding in D2 was much more rewarding for me than it was in WOW.
Maybe it was the time investment? I could do 2-3 runs of the major bosses and cow level in like a hour. Baal, diablo, meph and moo.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
For some reason, loot grinding in D2 was much more rewarding for me than it was in WOW.
Maybe it was the time investment? I could do 2-3 runs of the major bosses and cow level in like a hour. Baal, diablo, meph and moo.
Maybe it was the time investment? I could do 2-3 runs of the major bosses and cow level in like a hour. Baal, diablo, meph and moo.
I agree, but for me it was because it was at a much faster pace. Like you said.
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Originally Posted by superdeluxe
For some reason, loot grinding in D2 was much more rewarding for me than it was in WOW.
Maybe it was the time investment? I could do 2-3 runs of the major bosses and cow level in like a hour. Baal, diablo, meph and moo.
Maybe it was the time investment? I could do 2-3 runs of the major bosses and cow level in like a hour. Baal, diablo, meph and moo.
The fun of the Diablo game is smashing up stuff and getting rewards.
MMORPG's take alot of time investment. There is too much 'work' to do to get to the fun/good stuff.
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Any ideas on what the other classes will be?
Male and female version so far:
Barbarian/Barbarianess? (or Amazon?)
Witch Doctor/Witch Doctress?
Probably will be a magic caster of some kind: Sorcerer/Sorceress.
A Knight of some kind. ?/?
And hopefully the return of the Necromancer/Necromancess?. One of the best classes in the game.
BTW just what is the difference between a Witch and a Sorceress? The style of dress?
Male and female version so far:
Barbarian/Barbarianess? (or Amazon?)
Witch Doctor/Witch Doctress?
Probably will be a magic caster of some kind: Sorcerer/Sorceress.
A Knight of some kind. ?/?
And hopefully the return of the Necromancer/Necromancess?. One of the best classes in the game.
BTW just what is the difference between a Witch and a Sorceress? The style of dress?
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Originally Posted by Kelkee
Any ideas on what the other classes will be?
Male and female version so far:
Barbarian/Barbarianess? (or Amazon?)
Witch Doctor/Witch Doctress?
Probably will be a magic caster of some kind: Sorcerer/Sorceress.
A Knight of some kind. ?/?
And hopefully the return of the Necromancer/Necromancess?. One of the best classes in the game.
BTW just what is the difference between a Witch and a Sorceress? The style of dress?
Male and female version so far:
Barbarian/Barbarianess? (or Amazon?)
Witch Doctor/Witch Doctress?
Probably will be a magic caster of some kind: Sorcerer/Sorceress.
A Knight of some kind. ?/?
And hopefully the return of the Necromancer/Necromancess?. One of the best classes in the game.
BTW just what is the difference between a Witch and a Sorceress? The style of dress?
I think it is gonna be at least another amazon type character. I doubt there will be a necromancer because of the witch doctor. I hated the necro with a passion. They need to the paladin. I am gonna say the three other classes will be:
Paladin/Knight
Amazon type character
Good mage/sorcerer
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Holy shit. It's obvious I'm out of the loop, but I just found out today that Diablo III is coming out. Diablo II was my absolute favorite non-single player PC game ever. If it is equally as good as Diablo II, I will be very happy.
There goes any substantial DVD watching for about 4 months.
AND THE HEAVENS SHALL TREMBLE!
There goes any substantial DVD watching for about 4 months.
AND THE HEAVENS SHALL TREMBLE!