Official Wii thread -Part IX - Page 3

steebo777 · 04-15-08, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

That was really cool.

kakihara1 · 04-15-08, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SmackDaddy

I don't think anyone is claiming that the Wii is an all-in-one machine. The original assertion was that the Wii has "failed" as an all-in-one machine. While that may be the case, it's runaway success has proven that the public at large doesn't care if they can play DVD's, stream media or power nuclear missiles with their game consoles.

Well, at least that's the point I'm trying to make.

Nope the original assertion we're arguing here is this....

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Originally Posted by kelkee

Some will and some wont. If they dont add DVD then they will lose future battles in the console arena.

The future of consoles is more than playing games. Its an all in one entertainment device. Games, internet, TV, DVR, DVD, music, streamed media etc. as well as communications (voice, text, chat, email)

The first company to get this right will dominate the future of entertainment.

In my opinion Wii is the first promising contender.

The Wii will not be doing most of those things without add-ons and it certainly won't be viable without the option of HD. Maybe they'll go that way with the next console but they'll be burning a ton of people if they jack the price up. Does anyone really think that the 360 couldn't add a weather blade or an internet blade or whatever if they felt like it? Does anyone think the PS3 won't be able to do these things with PShome?

Again I'm only arguing that the Wii cannot and will not be an all-in-one solution, but hey that's not why people bought them in the first place.

Kelkee · 04-16-08, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin

Just look at a what a simple hard drive affords you compared to the Wii: for games you get trailers, demos, map packs, songs for Rock Band and game updates(see the clusterfuck that is GHIII on Wii, wouldn't a hard drive have been nice there for an update).

And I expect as you do that there will be announcement on some device shortly. Its not the Wii's fault the developers wanted to rush to market and cash in quick knowing they would have to cut content. They could have waited.

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Then you can get into the hardcore features like a persistent UI, friend lists, and messaging. Hell the Wii can't even do voice chat let alone video chat. Streaming music? Movies? DVD playback? How about the simple fact that the Wii can't even push HD. How is that all-in-one?

I believe the current Wii experience is a foreshadowing of things to come. Id expect some form of all these services in a Wii3.0. It takes time. Whether they decide to put more into the thing besides a gaming only 'experience' is up to them. But why toy around with a weather or voting service if you are not planning for something more down the road?

If I had a content driven business I would be knocking on Nintendo's door and getting my devs. on board with some Wii channel driven service. Youd be shortsighted not to do so.

The only experience I get from a 360 or PS3 is the same experience my PC can deliver. yay?

Chris_D · 04-16-08, 09:47 AM

Has there been any signs of Nintendo allowing to 3rd parties to deliver content via a Wii Channel? They seem to have it pretty tightly under wraps.

PixyJunket · 04-16-08, 10:50 AM

HOT!

Big images:

Spoiler:

steebo777 · 04-16-08, 11:09 AM

I've always wanted one of those!

Groucho · 04-16-08, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris_D

Has there been any signs of Nintendo allowing to 3rd parties to deliver content via a Wii Channel? They seem to have it pretty tightly under wraps.

The Internet browser if from Opera. And WiiWare has all kinds of third parties developing for it -- right now it's just games, but it could be other applications in the future (not that I forsee much demand that).

Kelkee · 04-16-08, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

The Internet browser if from Opera. And WiiWare has all kinds of third parties developing for it -- right now it's just games, but it could be other applications in the future (not that I forsee much demand that).

Not much demand for other apps?

How about this? A food channel where you can order a pizza from your favorite pizza place and have it delivered.

Stock quotes?
Purchase movie tickets?
Concert/sporting event tickets?

You could make the content national, regional, or local.

Channels for your favorite tv shows, movies, hobbies, sports etc.

Groucho · 04-16-08, 12:18 PM

You can do ALL of that through the Internet browser. Why break it out as a seperate app?

fumanstan · 04-16-08, 12:21 PM

You could see the weather and vote in polls through the browser too

dick_grayson · 04-16-08, 02:23 PM

I still can't get to a neighbors' wireless signal. They're either all blocked or red. Only two show up anyway. Rather than me get internet myself, is there a range extender/finder that I could plug into the wii to get a better signal?

Also, isn't there a website that will show you the different prices on internet for one's area? I'd rather stick to piggy-backing since I don't have/use a computer while at home.

Thanks. Hopefully, Mario kart Wii will play without a needed update.

PixyJunket · 04-16-08, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dick_grayson

I still can't get to a neighbors' wireless signal. They're either all blocked or red. Only two show up anyway. Rather than me get internet myself, is there a range extender/finder that I could plug into the wii to get a better signal?

This is probably the wrong place to ask about that since it's highly illegal.

dick_grayson · 04-16-08, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PixyJunket

This is probably the wrong place to ask about that since it's highly illegal.

it is? I thought since it was just a loose signal, it was all good. anyway, anyone know a website where you put in your zip code and it shows you what utility options you have? I think I remember there being one.....

Kelkee · 04-16-08, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Groucho

You can do ALL of that through the Internet browser. Why break it out as a seperate app?

To take advantage of the 'channel' interface.

It easier if a channel is front and center as opposed to having a customer load up a browser, link to a site or type it in, wait for it to load, login, place an order etc. I can to all that much faster on my PC or just phone it in.

Or I can click on the channel and order. Done.

Jeremy517 · 04-16-08, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelkee

To take advantage of the 'channel' interface.

It easier if a channel is front and center as opposed to having a customer load up a browser, link to a site or type it in, wait for it to load, login, place an order etc. I can to all that much faster on my PC or just phone it in.

Or I can click on the channel and order. Done.

The channel interface is horribly kludgy. What you are suggesting would the problem worse.

SunMonkey · 04-16-08, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dick_grayson

it is? I thought since it was just a loose signal, it was all good.

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/w..._free_wifi.htm

CreatureX · 04-16-08, 09:59 PM

Cool/funny article I found via GoNintendo.com:

The Top 14 Faces to Give to Your Mii

kakihara1 · 04-17-08, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SunMonkey

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/w..._free_wifi.htm

Whatever, if they don't secure their wireless it's your duty to exploit it.

pinata242 · 04-17-08, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kakihara1

Whatever, if they don't secure their wireless it's your duty to exploit it.

Agreed. Surfing for government red flags is the neighborly thing to do.

Kelkee · 04-17-08, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy517

The channel interface is horribly kludgy. What you are suggesting would the problem worse.

You select the channel and it loads the content. Easy. Channel software was designed for wiimote input.

The internet channel is great for basic surfing. But for actually doing anything its severly hampered in its speed and interface. Tried typing with the wiimote?

A dedicated channel would deliver only content you need and not have to fuss with trying to use a crippled web interface.

atxbomber · 04-17-08, 09:26 AM

Speaking of channels, is there a way to change their order? I know it's silly, but the Super Mario Bros. 3 channel comes before the original Super Mario Bros. one on my machine and it really annoys to me.

PixyJunket · 04-17-08, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by atxbomber

Speaking of channels, is there a way to change their order? I know it's silly, but the Super Mario Bros. 3 channel comes before the original Super Mario Bros. one on my machine and it really annoys to me.

Hold down A+B to pick up and move channels.

kakihara1 · 04-17-08, 09:29 AM

Hover over the channel you want to move then hold A+B on the remote to drag it where you want it.

Michael Corvin · 04-17-08, 10:23 AM

I think if you point at the channel you want to move you can do so by pressing the A+B buttons at the same time.

Kelkee · 04-17-08, 11:24 AM

The only channel you can't A+B move is the Disc channel.

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