I'm thinking about buying an Xbox 360

kmac2878 · 01-25-07, 09:35 AM

The thread title says it all.

I'm trying to decide which one to get:

Xbox 360 Core System ($299.99) or the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd ($399.99).

I'm debating the extra $100. I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. I also don't mind having controllers with wires. Do I really need the 20 GB hard drive if I'm not playing online? Would the Core System allow me to play games in 1080i HD when I purchase the Xbox 360 Component HD AV cable ($40)?

Or am I just penny-pinching too much? Should I just go with the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd - is that a better long-term purchase?

I'm also thinking about adding the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player in the near future if everything works out well.

Here's my television: Sony KDF-50WE655 - any issues with my tv?

Games: I'm looking to get a few games off the bat - Gears of War, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, and Call Of Duty 3. I'm also digging NCAA March Madness 07, College Hoops 2K7, and Lost Planet: Extreme Condition.

Thanks for your help - I appreciate it

KurrptSenate · 01-25-07, 09:35 AM

do NOT buy a 360 unless you get a the premium package.

seriously, don't do it

CaptStormy · 01-25-07, 09:40 AM

Agreed...Lot of games utilize the Hard drive whether you realize it or not.

kakihara1 · 01-25-07, 09:41 AM

Yeah even if you're not planning on online gaming right away buying the premium 360 is still worth it. Planning on saving any of your progress in the games you've mentioned? I assume you would want that ability, plan on buying the memory unit along with the Component cables and you're looking at spending something like $60 right out of the gate on the core system. The premium not only ensures that you will have plenty of space for game saves but it also comes with the component cables wireless controller, headset etc. The only reason I could think of for buying a core system was that was all you could find at launch, now that there are plenty of 360s kicking around there is no real reason for anyone to buy a core system.

Chrisedge · 01-25-07, 09:41 AM

You get the $40 HD cables, the Wireless controler ($20 premium?), and the Hard Drive ($99) all for $100.

BUY THE $399 ONE.

KurrptSenate · 01-25-07, 09:42 AM

i know the day or 2 right after christmas, my brother in-law called me at work, asking "how do you save a game on the 360"

I assumed he meant he got the core, so i asked him "didn't you get one with the harddrive?!?"

I learned that he just wanted to save 100 bucks, but he didn't realize how much he actually lost out on. Its to your advantage to pay the 100 up front. Otherwise, you'd be paying about 250 through the back-door

Wildo1966 · 01-25-07, 09:44 AM

IMO don't skimp on the system, pay the extra and get the more powerful version. Right now it appears the XBox is the way to go for gaming.

MWB · 01-25-07, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac2878

I'm debating the extra $100. I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. I also don't mind having controllers with wires. Do I really need the 20 GB hard drive if I'm not playing online? Would the Core System allow me to play games in 1080i HD when I purchase the Xbox 360 Component HD AV cable ($40)?

For sixty bucks more, you'd get the hard drive and the wireless controller--which sell for $150 separately.

I wonder how many Core system buyers go back and buy the other stuff, separately. I bet a lot of them do.

pinata242 · 01-25-07, 09:52 AM

Does an Xbox cry when it is put in a core retail box?

josuff247 · 01-25-07, 10:01 AM

Use one of the 10% overstock or $40off Circuit City coupons floating around and get is for $360.

DRG · 01-25-07, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac2878

I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. Do I really need the 20 GB hard drive if I'm not playing online?

Even if you're not playing games online, are you interested in online content like demos, Live Arcade, game trailers, etc.? Because those are all free through the Silver plan even if you don't want to pay for the premium Gold (online gaming) portion of Live. And without the HD you wouldn't be able to download/store any of that stuff.

Also, you can't play any backward compatible original Xbox games without the HD.

DJ_Longfellow · 01-25-07, 10:28 AM

Yes, get the PREMIUM. Or, you have to buy a Memory Card, Component Cables and a Wireless controller as wired is no fun anymore

Nuff · 01-25-07, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac2878

...I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. I also don't mind having controllers with wires. ...

I made the exact same two statements as you...and now I find myself wanting to upgrade to a gold xbl to play online and of the two controllers I have (one wired one wireless) the wired one has never been used.

I concur with everyone else, go premium.

lotsofdvds · 01-25-07, 10:58 AM

Premium, and use the $40 off $200 Circuit City coupon to make you feel a little better.

maxfisher · 01-25-07, 11:03 AM

As everyone else has already stated, fork out the extra $100 for the premium. You'll have to buy a memory card or hard drive anyway, along with the component cables. It's cheaper and easier just to get it all in the same package.

Also, I had absolutely no interest in live when I bought mine, but it quickly changed my mind. I still don't really get into the whole playing-competitively-against-a-bunch-of-strangers style of live play, but online co-op absolutely kicks ass if a game does it well and you have a buddy to play with. On top of this, being able to purchase Live Arcade titles and download free demos of games both make the hard drive well worth the extra money.

Michael Corvin · 01-25-07, 11:09 AM

Memory Unit(64MB) - $30
Component Cables - $40
---------------------
total with Core - $370
Premium(13GB) - $400

No contest. Like everyone else said the premium also gives you the ability to play BackCompat games, download Live Arcade Games, demos, etc. You get a headset, and the wireless pad. But it really boils down to if you want a cool looking chrome drive bay, because that's all that really matters.

TimeandTide · 01-25-07, 11:37 AM

As everyone else said, get the PREMIUM. Well worth the extra $100.

As for the games you mentioned, I'd advise picking up GoW, R6: Vegas and COD 2 (not 3).

There are a couple of threads in the forum where posters list their top 5 games. I used those lists to start builing my library.

Josh H · 01-25-07, 11:47 AM

Definitely get the premium. The Core is called the tard pack for a reason.

Right now isn't the best time to buy probably though. The 360s with the new CPU (which hopefully won't have the same rate of over heating problems) is supposedly shipping soon.

And I'd be amazed if there wasn't a $100 price drop sometime this year. The only question is whether is is in May (used to be a lot of drops around E3 in may, but now that E3 is gone who knows...) or for the holidays.

That will probably be determined by when Sony drops price on the PS3. I'm guessing that spring is more likely as the piles of PS3s sitting in stores for days can't continue much longer of Sony wants to get back in the hardware race.

mbs · 01-25-07, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Hinkle

Right now isn't the best time to buy probably though. The 360s with the new CPU (which hopefully won't have the same rate of over heating problems) is supposedly shipping soon.

According to what reliable source? MS keeps claiming any revisions are only "research projects".

You could end up waiting forever, nothing has been announced by any source. There is always a gamble with technology, because the next model could be just around the corner. If one is going to wait a year for a cooler CPU, why not wait another couple years and just get the 720...

Until a release date is announced or a quarter is targeted (or at the very least an indication from MS that there will even be a revision at all), buying a 360 now is not bad timing.

And I agree with everyone else, of course... the Premium is a no-brainer. And get the 2-year extended warranty from MS, which will give you unlimited replacements for 3 years total.

Josh H · 01-25-07, 12:02 PM

True.

I'd wait more for the price drop than the new CPU myself. If one's waited a year, another 6 months or so can't hurt. Unless $100 isn't a big deal etc.

vinhj · 01-25-07, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmac2878

The thread title says it all.

I'm trying to decide which one to get:

Xbox 360 Core System ($299.99) or the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd ($399.99).

I'm debating the extra $100. I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. I also don't mind having controllers with wires. Do I really need the 20 GB hard drive if I'm not playing online? Would the Core System allow me to play games in 1080i HD when I purchase the Xbox 360 Component HD AV cable ($40)?

Or am I just penny-pinching too much? Should I just go with the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd - is that a better long-term purchase?

I'm also thinking about adding the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player in the near future if everything works out well.

Here's my television: Sony KDF-50WE655 - any issues with my tv?

Games: I'm looking to get a few games off the bat - Gears of War, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, and Call Of Duty 3. I'm also digging NCAA March Madness 07, College Hoops 2K7, and Lost Planet: Extreme Condition.

Thanks for your help - I appreciate it

The Xbox360 only has 3 USB ports, so if you eventually shoot for 4 controllers, you'd have 3 wired and 1 wireless at best. Having set that doesn't match like that would drive me nuts.

timewaster · 01-25-07, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRG

Even if you're not playing games online, are you interested in online content like demos, Live Arcade, game trailers, etc.? Because those are all free through the Silver plan even if you don't want to pay for the premium Gold (online gaming) portion of Live. And without the HD you wouldn't be able to download/store any of that stuff.

Also, you can't play any backward compatible original Xbox games without the HD.

can someone outline the differences between the gold and silver online plans?

Giantrobo · 01-25-07, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timewaster

can someone outline the differences between the gold and silver online plans?

Not an outline but a good place to see the differences right off the bat.

I guess the main thing is:

Gold = You pay and you can play online multiplayer
Silver = Free but no online multiplayer

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/memberships/default.htm

KurrptSenate · 01-25-07, 01:19 PM

actually, if you don't mind using a different profile every month, you can get a free month of GOLD when you sign up. After that month, just create a new profile, and BLOW, another free month

Absolute Zero · 01-25-07, 02:42 PM

You could always buy a used one from Ebgames or Gamestop. I believe they are $279. There is a catch though. You get a premium Xbox 360 with a wireless controller and the HD cables, but they take out the hard drive. I asked once and the guy said because its an "Add-on". Anyway, you save $130 and all you need extra is the hard drive.

01-25-07, 09:35 AM	#1
kmac2878 DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NY via MA Posts: 1,806	I'm thinking about buying an Xbox 360 The thread title says it all. I'm trying to decide which one to get: Xbox 360 Core System ($299.99) or the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd ($399.99). I'm debating the extra $100. I'm not concerned about playing games online right now. I also don't mind having controllers with wires. Do I really need the 20 GB hard drive if I'm not playing online? Would the Core System allow me to play games in 1080i HD when I purchase the Xbox 360 Component HD AV cable ($40)? Or am I just penny-pinching too much? Should I just go with the Xbox 360 Console with the 20GB hd - is that a better long-term purchase? I'm also thinking about adding the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player in the near future if everything works out well. Here's my television: Sony KDF-50WE655 - any issues with my tv? Games: I'm looking to get a few games off the bat - Gears of War, Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas, and Call Of Duty 3. I'm also digging NCAA March Madness 07, College Hoops 2K7, and Lost Planet: Extreme Condition. Thanks for your help - I appreciate it __________________ "Monster! Very small monster!" - Eddie Izzard (in reference to my dvd collection) > > \| l < < (click Frankie for dvd collection) XBL: Katana Assassin l PSN: KatanaAssassin l Wii Friend Code: 1713 6668 6600 3687 My Videogame Collection l 360 Voice Blog

01-25-07, 09:41 AM	#4
kakihara1 DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana Posts: 3,225	Yeah even if you're not planning on online gaming right away buying the premium 360 is still worth it. Planning on saving any of your progress in the games you've mentioned? I assume you would want that ability, plan on buying the memory unit along with the Component cables and you're looking at spending something like $60 right out of the gate on the core system. The premium not only ensures that you will have plenty of space for game saves but it also comes with the component cables wireless controller, headset etc. The only reason I could think of for buying a core system was that was all you could find at launch, now that there are plenty of 360s kicking around there is no real reason for anyone to buy a core system. __________________ "I don't know. I find this disgusting but I can't help myself" {Ted Pikul-eXistenZ} XBL GT= MARTIN5 PSN ID = kakihara1

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Chrisedge DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Part of the Left-Wing Conspiracy Posts: 5,794	You get the $40 HD cables, the Wireless controler ($20 premium?), and the Hard Drive ($99) all for $100. BUY THE $399 ONE. __________________ DVDTalk Member #1758 since: 06-09-99 I Hate Blockbuster chrisedge.com My first post I can find here

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pinata242 DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 27,514	Does an Xbox cry when it is put in a core retail box? __________________ XBL: pinata242 \| PSN: pinata242 \| Steam: pinata242

01-25-07, 11:09 AM	#16
Michael Corvin DVD Talk Hero Join Date: May 1999 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 44,652	Memory Unit(64MB) - $30 Component Cables - $40 --------------------- total with Core - $370 Premium(13GB) - $400 No contest. Like everyone else said the premium also gives you the ability to play BackCompat games, download Live Arcade Games, demos, etc. You get a headset, and the wireless pad. But it really boils down to if you want a cool looking chrome drive bay, because that's all that really matters. __________________ XBOXLive FU Hackers! Now Playing Borderlands 2 Recently Finished Halo 4

01-25-07, 09:35 AM	#2
KurrptSenate DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,170	do NOT buy a 360 unless you get a the premium package. seriously, don't do it

01-25-07, 09:40 AM	#3
CaptStormy Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunrise, FL Posts: 558	Agreed...Lot of games utilize the Hard drive whether you realize it or not.

01-25-07, 09:42 AM	#6
KurrptSenate DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,170	i know the day or 2 right after christmas, my brother in-law called me at work, asking "how do you save a game on the 360" I assumed he meant he got the core, so i asked him "didn't you get one with the harddrive?!?" I learned that he just wanted to save 100 bucks, but he didn't realize how much he actually lost out on. Its to your advantage to pay the 100 up front. Otherwise, you'd be paying about 250 through the back-door

01-25-07, 09:44 AM	#7
Wildo1966 Banned Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,088	IMO don't skimp on the system, pay the extra and get the more powerful version. Right now it appears the XBox is the way to go for gaming.

01-25-07, 10:01 AM	#10
josuff247 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 532	Use one of the 10% overstock or $40off Circuit City coupons floating around and get is for $360.

01-25-07, 10:28 AM	#12
DJ_Longfellow DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,576	Yes, get the PREMIUM. Or, you have to buy a Memory Card, Component Cables and a Wireless controller as wired is no fun anymore

01-25-07, 10:58 AM	#14
lotsofdvds Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 4,790	Premium, and use the $40 off $200 Circuit City coupon to make you feel a little better.

01-25-07, 11:03 AM	#15
maxfisher DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 4,745	As everyone else has already stated, fork out the extra $100 for the premium. You'll have to buy a memory card or hard drive anyway, along with the component cables. It's cheaper and easier just to get it all in the same package. Also, I had absolutely no interest in live when I bought mine, but it quickly changed my mind. I still don't really get into the whole playing-competitively-against-a-bunch-of-strangers style of live play, but online co-op absolutely kicks ass if a game does it well and you have a buddy to play with. On top of this, being able to purchase Live Arcade titles and download free demos of games both make the hard drive well worth the extra money.

01-25-07, 11:37 AM	#17
TimeandTide DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Orange County Posts: 4,188	As everyone else said, get the PREMIUM. Well worth the extra $100. As for the games you mentioned, I'd advise picking up GoW, R6: Vegas and COD 2 (not 3). There are a couple of threads in the forum where posters list their top 5 games. I used those lists to start builing my library.

01-25-07, 11:47 AM	#18
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	Definitely get the premium. The Core is called the tard pack for a reason. Right now isn't the best time to buy probably though. The 360s with the new CPU (which hopefully won't have the same rate of over heating problems) is supposedly shipping soon. And I'd be amazed if there wasn't a $100 price drop sometime this year. The only question is whether is is in May (used to be a lot of drops around E3 in may, but now that E3 is gone who knows...) or for the holidays. That will probably be determined by when Sony drops price on the PS3. I'm guessing that spring is more likely as the piles of PS3s sitting in stores for days can't continue much longer of Sony wants to get back in the hardware race.

01-25-07, 12:02 PM	#20
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	True. I'd wait more for the price drop than the new CPU myself. If one's waited a year, another 6 months or so can't hurt. Unless $100 isn't a big deal etc.

01-25-07, 01:19 PM	#24
KurrptSenate DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,170	actually, if you don't mind using a different profile every month, you can get a free month of GOLD when you sign up. After that month, just create a new profile, and BLOW, another free month

01-25-07, 02:42 PM	#25
Absolute Zero DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: May 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,092	You could always buy a used one from Ebgames or Gamestop. I believe they are $279. There is a catch though. You get a premium Xbox 360 with a wireless controller and the HD cables, but they take out the hard drive. I asked once and the guy said because its an "Add-on". Anyway, you save $130 and all you need extra is the hard drive. __________________ Now for something you'll really enjoy...