Nintendo to buy Capcom?

jeffdsmith · 12-13-02, 12:35 PM

Well, the rumors are spreading on the internet quite fast, so I thought I'd do my part to bring it to DVDtalk.

Personally I think Capcom makes some great games and this is good news for GC owner if it happens. However, I think it's bad for the industry as a whole. With more and more companies being bought it's just going to get worse.

Frankly if it goes down, Nintendo getting rid of Rare for Capcom makes a A LOT of sense.

Here's the link

Groucho · 12-13-02, 12:37 PM

It makes slightly more sense than the "Microsoft buying Capcom?" rumor, but not by a lot.

jeffdsmith · 12-13-02, 12:39 PM

Well, the fact that Capcom plans on releasing 5 exclusives to the GCN is quite supportive of this. That's why I could never believe the MS rumors. - Many of those titles appeal to an older demographic. Regardless if the sale is true, Nintendo is def. trying to attract the older market.

I think it will be quite interesting to see what they do with their next system. Nintendo is finally starting to take the gloves off.

Liver&Onions · 12-13-02, 12:42 PM

DMC 3 to the Cube!!!!

Groucho · 12-13-02, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jeffdsmith
Nintendo is finally starting to take the gloves off.

jeffdsmith · 12-13-02, 12:45 PM

Gallant Pig · 12-13-02, 12:48 PM

Yuck, fighting games with the GCN controller.

AgtFox · 12-13-02, 12:59 PM

There are a heck of a lot of rumors flying around 4 companies:

Sega
Konami
Capcom
Namco

There has been talk of merges (Sega/Namco, Konami/Namco, Konami/Sega, Capcom/Namco, etc.), talks of buyouts (Nintendo buying Capcom, Microsoft buying Sega, Nintendo buying Namco, etc.) and talks that this is all a bunch of BS.

We can sit here and go through tons of different scenarios...

Noonan · 12-13-02, 12:59 PM

I agree, street fighter (or any other Capcom fighter) on a GC controller is a scary thought.

Gallant Pig · 12-13-02, 01:00 PM

AgtFox, you mean just today all these rumors? Or in the past few months?

zig · 12-13-02, 01:05 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo bought Production Studio 4(the division of Capcom making the 5 gamecube exclusive games), but all of Capcom seems a bit of a stretch. They're releasing quite a few games for the xbox and especially ps2, they'd have to either ditch them/port them to GC.. or just release them anyway, which doesn't seem likely.

AgtFox · 12-13-02, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by Gallant Pig
AgtFox, you mean just today all these rumors? Or in the past few months?

Roughly from the end of last month when Sega's stock skyrocketed on news of a possible buyout to now I have heard all the scenarios from above.

A merger of 2 of the 4 companies is the strongest one so far outside of one of the Big 3 buying out 1 of the 4.

jeffdsmith · 12-13-02, 01:09 PM

Hmm...

If Nintendo owned a company such as Capcom, that would in effect allow them to publish games on other consoles correct?

In other words, just as Sony will make money from the sales of FF:CC on the cube, Nintendo could make money off of Sony and MS through titles they allow capcom to cross publish...

Just a thought.

I agree that these rumors have been all over the place lately. But with this particular rumor showing up on several sites I wonder if there is more merit to it.

Lastblade · 12-13-02, 01:28 PM

Well if that happens, I am forced to buy a GC

jeffdsmith · 12-17-02, 09:04 AM

Ahem.

Last "story" on the page.

spankyj · 12-17-02, 09:59 AM

Very interesting - perhaps these rumors aren't just "that".

Josh H · 12-17-02, 03:06 PM

I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen.

Nintendo decided not buy Rare when they had the chance because they just aren't worth the money, give how long they take to make games. Plus their franchises aren't really system sellers. Perfect Dark would of helped, but the lame new cel shaded/comic book design could hurt it IMO.

Anyway, you have to think that they had plans to buy another developer instead, and Capcom makes sense given the RE deal and Capcom's financial woes.

I don't really want to see it happen, I'd prefer them stay third party.

From a games standpoint I realy don't care as I'm not a big Capcom fan. The old street fighter and Mega Man games were great, but I never cared much for RE, DMC etc.

Liver&Onions · 12-17-02, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
Perfect Dark would of helped, but the lame new cel shaded/comic book design could hurt it IMO.

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TeeSeeJay · 12-17-02, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AgtFox
There are a heck of a lot of rumors flying around 4 companies:

Sega
Konami
Capcom
Namco

There has been talk of merges (Sega/Namco, Konami/Namco, Konami/Sega, Capcom/Namco, etc.), talks of buyouts (Nintendo buying Capcom, Microsoft buying Sega, Nintendo buying Namco, etc.) and talks that this is all a bunch of BS.

We can sit here and go through tons of different scenarios...

These are different companies?

TeeSeeJay · 12-17-02, 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by Liver&Onions

What? A lot of people don't like the cel-shaded look.

Josh H · 12-17-02, 03:42 PM

Yeah, I was talking sales wise, not quality wise, with "lame" put in because I personally hate cel shading.

Zelda was always a "cartoonish" game so it wasn't a big deal, and look at all the uproar over that.

Perfect Dark was a violent first person shooter aimed at an older crowd, the cel shading could really alienate that audience.

ChrisKnudsen · 12-17-02, 03:43 PM

So, is Perfect Dark just coming to the XBOX now? Just wondering?

Liver&Onions · 12-17-02, 03:47 PM

But what about XIII ? Not much uproar over that though... or is the fact it's based on a comic making it OK to be a cell-shaded FPS?

Josh H · 12-17-02, 03:48 PM

Being based on a comic makes it ok, plus there is pretty much no hype over that game that I've seen.

Not to mention that it doesn't have a non-cel shaded prequel that was very popular.

Apples and oranges.

Josh H · 12-17-02, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by ChrisKnudsen
So, is Perfect Dark just coming to the XBOX now? Just wondering?

Yes, X-box exclusive like all future Rare games.

12-13-02, 12:35 PM	#1
jeffdsmith DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,184	Nintendo to buy Capcom? Well, the rumors are spreading on the internet quite fast, so I thought I'd do my part to bring it to DVDtalk. Personally I think Capcom makes some great games and this is good news for GC owner if it happens. However, I think it's bad for the industry as a whole. With more and more companies being bought it's just going to get worse. Frankly if it goes down, Nintendo getting rid of Rare for Capcom makes a A LOT of sense. Here's the link __________________ Badgers!? Badgers!? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!.

12-13-02, 12:37 PM	#2
Groucho Moderator Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 62,435	It makes slightly more sense than the "Microsoft buying Capcom?" rumor, but not by a lot. __________________ Xbox Live: Runner Groucho PSN: RunnerGroucho "The Borg is a species" -- Tracer Bullet (Citation)

12-13-02, 12:39 PM	#3
jeffdsmith DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,184	Well, the fact that Capcom plans on releasing 5 exclusives to the GCN is quite supportive of this. That's why I could never believe the MS rumors. - Many of those titles appeal to an older demographic. Regardless if the sale is true, Nintendo is def. trying to attract the older market. I think it will be quite interesting to see what they do with their next system. Nintendo is finally starting to take the gloves off. __________________ Badgers!? Badgers!? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!. Last edited by jeffdsmith; 12-13-02 at 12:43 PM.

12-13-02, 12:42 PM	#4
Liver&Onions DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregonzola Posts: 13,371	DMC 3 to the Cube!!!! __________________ Twitter

12-13-02, 12:45 PM	#6
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12-13-02, 12:48 PM	#7
Gallant Pig Mod Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,325	Yuck, fighting games with the GCN controller. __________________ "OMG, HAHAHAHAA, OMG, HAHAHAHAHAA" - Zuffy referring to this thread

12-13-02, 12:59 PM	#8
AgtFox DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MN Posts: 2,521	There are a heck of a lot of rumors flying around 4 companies: Sega Konami Capcom Namco There has been talk of merges (Sega/Namco, Konami/Namco, Konami/Sega, Capcom/Namco, etc.), talks of buyouts (Nintendo buying Capcom, Microsoft buying Sega, Nintendo buying Namco, etc.) and talks that this is all a bunch of BS. We can sit here and go through tons of different scenarios...

12-13-02, 12:59 PM	#9
Noonan DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: MA Posts: 4,981	I agree, street fighter (or any other Capcom fighter) on a GC controller is a scary thought.

12-13-02, 01:00 PM	#10
Gallant Pig Mod Emeritus Join Date: Aug 1999 Posts: 15,325	AgtFox, you mean just today all these rumors? Or in the past few months? __________________ "OMG, HAHAHAHAA, OMG, HAHAHAHAHAA" - Zuffy referring to this thread

12-13-02, 01:05 PM	#11
zig Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 810	I wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo bought Production Studio 4(the division of Capcom making the 5 gamecube exclusive games), but all of Capcom seems a bit of a stretch. They're releasing quite a few games for the xbox and especially ps2, they'd have to either ditch them/port them to GC.. or just release them anyway, which doesn't seem likely.

12-13-02, 01:09 PM	#13
jeffdsmith DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,184	Hmm... If Nintendo owned a company such as Capcom, that would in effect allow them to publish games on other consoles correct? In other words, just as Sony will make money from the sales of FF:CC on the cube, Nintendo could make money off of Sony and MS through titles they allow capcom to cross publish... Just a thought. I agree that these rumors have been all over the place lately. But with this particular rumor showing up on several sites I wonder if there is more merit to it. __________________ Badgers!? Badgers!? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!.

12-13-02, 01:28 PM	#14
Lastblade DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 2,482	Well if that happens, I am forced to buy a GC

12-17-02, 09:04 AM	#15
jeffdsmith DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,184	Ahem. Last "story" on the page. __________________ Badgers!? Badgers!? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!.

12-17-02, 09:59 AM	#16
spankyj DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: 30-minute drive from Tampa HR.... Posts: 1,261	Very interesting - perhaps these rumors aren't just "that". __________________ 2003 DVDtalk Fantasy Football Survivor League Champion

12-17-02, 03:06 PM	#17
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	I wouldn't be surprised to see it happen. Nintendo decided not buy Rare when they had the chance because they just aren't worth the money, give how long they take to make games. Plus their franchises aren't really system sellers. Perfect Dark would of helped, but the lame new cel shaded/comic book design could hurt it IMO. Anyway, you have to think that they had plans to buy another developer instead, and Capcom makes sense given the RE deal and Capcom's financial woes. I don't really want to see it happen, I'd prefer them stay third party. From a games standpoint I realy don't care as I'm not a big Capcom fan. The old street fighter and Mega Man games were great, but I never cared much for RE, DMC etc.

12-17-02, 03:42 PM	#21
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	Yeah, I was talking sales wise, not quality wise, with "lame" put in because I personally hate cel shading. Zelda was always a "cartoonish" game so it wasn't a big deal, and look at all the uproar over that. Perfect Dark was a violent first person shooter aimed at an older crowd, the cel shading could really alienate that audience. Last edited by Josh Hinkle; 12-17-02 at 03:44 PM.

12-17-02, 03:43 PM	#22
ChrisKnudsen DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Bethleham, New Jersey Posts: 1,423	So, is Perfect Dark just coming to the XBOX now? Just wondering? __________________ Feb. 19th

12-17-02, 03:47 PM	#23
Liver&Onions DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregonzola Posts: 13,371	But what about XIII ? Not much uproar over that though... or is the fact it's based on a comic making it OK to be a cell-shaded FPS? __________________ Twitter

12-17-02, 03:48 PM	#24
Josh H Retired Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 27,389	Being based on a comic makes it ok, plus there is pretty much no hype over that game that I've seen. Not to mention that it doesn't have a non-cel shaded prequel that was very popular. Apples and oranges.