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Old 08-14-17, 10:38 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by raven56706
anyone talking about what Gilly said to Sam? that deserves alot of info
Entertainment Weekly (online) and TVLine have articles on it.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

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Spoiler:
She was reading an old arch maester doodle about how he annulled a marriage. It was Prince Rhaegar's (Jon Snows father). He annulled the marriage and had a secret wedding with Lyanna Stark. He's not actually a bastard. He's a Targaryen. More important, Rhaegar was the crowned prince. Making his heirs have the real claim on the throne and not Danny Targaryen. This info has been sought after for years for book readers and it was just casually dropped and ignored by Sam. Yet it's the biggest kept secret in Game of Thrones
Yes, I know
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by mrhan
I thought Arya should have at least had the sense that something was not right.
Unless Arya is playing Littlefinger....
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by raven56706
Spoiler:
She was reading an old arch maester doodle about how he annulled a marriage. It was Prince Rhaegar's (Jon Snows father). He annulled the marriage and had a secret wedding with Lyanna Stark. He's not actually a bastard. He's a Targaryen. More important, Rhaegar was the crowned prince. Making his heirs have the real claim on the throne and not Danny Targaryen. This info has been sought after for years for book readers and it was just casually dropped and ignored by Sam. Yet it's the biggest kept secret in Game of Thrones


Spoiler:
Jon is of ice and fire.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Jon and the other leaving the tunnel remind me of this.

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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by covenant
Unless Arya is playing Littlefinger....


I would think.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Groucho
For those who didn't catch on, the implication of what Gilly was reading is that Rheagar Targaryan was actually married to Lyanna Stark before she had Jon Snow. Which means he is not a bastard, and which also means that he's the true heir to the throne (not Daenerys).
The ramifications are huge. It means that means there is yet another battle that still needs naming.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

I take as fact that Jon is Rhaegar's son, but I don't understand why he doesn't have the Targaryan platinum blond hair. That was supposed to be a big-deal genetic thing, was it not?
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Bill Needle
The ramifications are huge. It means that means there is yet another battle that still needs naming.
Two, if you count
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Groucho
For those who didn't catch on, the implication of what Gilly was reading is that Rheagar Targaryan was actually married to Lyanna Stark before she had Jon Snow. Which means he is not a bastard, and which also means that he's the true heir to the throne (not Daenerys).
And why Ned kept that secret on a very very tight leash. What he was doing was technically treasonous.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Decker
I take as fact that Jon is Rhaegar's son, but I don't understand why he doesn't have the Targaryan platinum blond hair. That was supposed to be a big-deal genetic thing, was it not?
I guess his mother was a brunette and hers was the more dominant gene.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Draven
Not much in here but I've seen a few articles about it online. When it happened, I said to my wife "oh, that was really important".
That's word for word what I said to my wife too.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by covenant
Unless Arya is playing Littlefinger....
I hope that is the case. She needs to stab him in the face with that dagger just to wipe that stupid smirk off.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

i was surprised that Drogon was perfectly fine this ep. i thought that was a good shot to his shoulder and yet he is flying as if nothing happened. i did like the scene with Jon touching him...

and just to be clear that was Sam's brother and father being burned alive, correct? why were they with the Lannisters and why then is Sam not?
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Once Danerys pulled the spike from Drogon's shoulder it healed up.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by OldBoy
and just to be clear that was Sam's brother and father being burned alive, correct? why were they with the Lannisters and why then is Sam not?
1) Yes
2) Jamie had recruited them in the first Episode of the season. They were loyal to House Tyrell but since Tyrell was at war with the crown (and the Tarleys were IN King's Landing at the time), he chose to stay loyal to the Queen rather than be in open rebellion. Also Jamie promised that he could become Warden of the South after the war.
3) Sam was disowned and sent to the Wall because his father despised him. Their scene together last year when Tarley discovered that Sam had a baby with a Wildling (I know it's not really his, but he didn't) only cemented the animosity between them. Sam ended up stealing his Valarian Steel sword
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

More plot armor for key participants, including dragons.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

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1) Yes
2) Jamie had recruited them in the first Episode of the season. They were loyal to House Tyrell but since Tyrell was at war with the crown (and the Tarleys were IN King's Landing at the time), he chose to stay loyal to the Queen rather than be in open rebellion. Also Jamie promised that he could become Warden of the South after the war.
3) Sam was disowned and sent to the Wall because his father despised him. Their scene together last year when Tarley discovered that Sam had a baby with a Wildling (I know it's not really his, but he didn't) only cemented the animosity between them. Sam ended up stealing his Valarian Steel sword
yeah, i know all about 3). i think i remember the recruiting now. thanks for clearing rest up...
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
Once Danerys pulled the spike from Drogon's shoulder it healed up.
you mean like a magical self heal sort of thing? bc as far as i thought, dragon's were still flesh and blood animals...
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

I just took it as Qyburn's gigantic crossbow doesn't work as well as they hoped, which Jamie even mentions to Cersei.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Timber
Jon would have no idea that it was a big deal. He's never encountered a dragon so how would he know how one would react?
I have to agree with Slop. No one else has ever touch them and im pretty sure survived. So, Jon touching Drogo and Drogo letting him should have been a bigger deal.

I kinda would have like that scene to lasted a bit more with Dany questioning how and why. Besides the "did you take a knife to the heart?" its like blah, that wasnt important neither.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

I thought the one misstep with that scene is that it should have been Rhaego, not Drogon. I know it was Drogon b/c that is who Dany was riding, but maybe Rhaego lands first and Dany lands and sees him with Rhaego.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by Lastblade
More plot armor for key participants, including dragons.
I do not get this criticism. Characters who have died on GoT typically don't randomly go. It's great that they do kill people, but it's usually with a lot of setup.

Jamie Lannister wasn't going to die by drowning randomly at the end of an episode.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by csant
I have to agree with Slop. No one else has ever touch them and im pretty sure survived. So, Jon touching Drogo and Drogo letting him should have been a bigger deal.
Tyrion Lannister sends his regards.
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Re: Game of Thrones (S7E05) -- "Eastwatch" -- 8/13/17

Originally Posted by OldBoy
i was surprised that Drogon was perfectly fine this ep. i thought that was a good shot to his shoulder and yet he is flying as if nothing happened. i did like the scene with Jon touching him...
The dragons are so big that the bolt it took in the shoulder wouldn't be much more than a minor flesh wound, like a person being shot in the shoulder with a nailgun.

and just to be clear that was Sam's brother and father being burned alive, correct? why were they with the Lannisters and why then is Sam not?
Sam was forced to take the black by his father so Dickon would be his heir. Sam's only loyalty is to the Nights Watch, not to his family or anyone his family is sworn to. It is the NW policy to stay out of politics.


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