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Old 05-15-17, 08:10 PM   #1
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Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

This was pretty ok, good even. Everyone played their parts well and I liked the twist. Calista really is great as Cat and I didn't realize how much she actually brings. I wish she were still regular. Her emotional arc has been the best Imo. Look forward to the finale actually...
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Old 05-15-17, 08:18 PM   #2
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MONDAY, MAY 15

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"Resist" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

CAT GRANT RETURNS - Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) grapples with whether or not to obey the President's (guest star Lynda Carter) orders regarding Rhea's (guest star Teri Hatcher) latest actions. Meanwhile, Cat Grant (Calista Flockhart) returns to National City. Millicent Shelton directed the episode written by Jessica Queller & Derek Simon (#221). Original airdate 5/15/2017.

Next week is the season finale.

I won't be here next week. Will be out of the country on vacation. dex14 will probably have to make the finale thread.
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Old 05-15-17, 10:38 PM   #3
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

Sigh. Well, I liked seeing Cat back since she was one of the hearts of season 1 I liked her moment with Supergirl, and liked when Cat knew James was The Guardian because she could see his eyes. Also thought that Lena looked hot in that dress. It also had some good special effects and was nice to see Superman.

What ruined it for me were the obvious plot holes(Uh, why don't the Daxamites have any super strength or anything), and of course the stupid political commentary. We had to find out that Supergirl voted Liberal, that of course our alien female president is a total badass(GIRL POWER!) because she's a woman(and Supergirl is even MORE proud to say she voted for a woman), as well as Cat's rant being something that could be considered anti-Trump. Nice to see Winn's girlfriend who suddenly came back for no reason, is suddenly not there to help the resistance for no reason. Of course Maggie is attached to Alex at the hip incase we forgot that Alex is a lesbian now and Maggie always needs to be around Alex. For the life of me, I don't know why they just didn't make her a DEO agent. Hopefully they knock this political garbage off for the finale, but since the last episode is titled off a feminist meme, I doubt it.

Apparently Jeremiah decide to take some vacation time since he was nowhere to be seen. Also as cool as a Superman fight will be, disappointed to see him be mind controlled. I'd rather see them working together as opposed to them fighting one another. So we had some good moments this episode that were ruined by the shows political garbage and need to shoehorn Maggie into everything.
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Old 05-15-17, 11:43 PM   #4
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

I don't disagree with anything in the previous post. There's a lot to roll your eyes at in this episode.
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Old 05-16-17, 12:03 AM   #5
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

This show has become a hot mess and I'm surprised DC's lawyers even cleared the episode. It's quickly turning the Supergirl brand toxic to many fans, which has ramifications beyond a single show running on the CW.
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Old 05-16-17, 01:02 AM   #6
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

I'm very liberal and despise Trump, and the political shit on this show is ridiculous. I can't imagine being a conservative trying to watch this.
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Old 05-16-17, 09:35 AM   #7
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

These reactions are far more entertaining than the episode itself.

I don't necessarily disagree though...
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Old 05-16-17, 12:39 PM   #8
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

Funny enough, at 9pm CT the season finale of "Quantico" aired. The episode was titled "Resistance" (the Supergirl title is just "Resist") , and was about an evil white male President (or would-be President) who's thwarted by "Girl Power".
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Old 05-16-17, 01:23 PM   #9
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What superpowers does Mon-El have?
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Old 05-16-17, 01:51 PM   #10
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What superpowers does Mon-El have?
Super strength is the only one so far.
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Old 05-16-17, 02:22 PM   #11
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

So a female centric show has 'girl power'?

GTFO

I enjoyed Lois v Wonder Woman with Ally McBeal moderating.

Superman v Supergirl showdown should be fun.
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Old 05-16-17, 02:33 PM   #12
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

Thought it was a great episode. And I have no problems with women - can't say the same for some of the commentary in here

I do find it telling that Alex is taken to task for caring about her girlfriend but Kara can risk the world for Mon-El.
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Old 05-16-17, 03:17 PM   #13
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So a female centric show has 'girl power'?
Yes, if by "girl power" you mean "I have no compunction against openly insulting men, and believe I can do so without repercussion".
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Old 05-16-17, 05:18 PM   #14
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

There are just so many plotholes that need to be dumbed down for the show to work. Making the president an alien from another planet was a drastic and creatively stupid choice. I have to believe a bigger storyline this season was planned with Lynda Carter but something intervened in their plans.

What's scary is that as a major Sweeps episode, the showrunners had a big hand in shaping this episode. You can't blame it on junior writers/producers.
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Old 05-16-17, 08:04 PM   #15
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

Terrible.

Air Force One gets blown up and Kara saves Cat and not the President.

The President is an alien but that's no big deal. They do what she says anyways and cover it up on top of that.
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

Cat Grant is a BIT overconfident. Says things like it will just put a stop to it. Maybe it's a *Oh, well, might as well be confident till the end if it happens*

As for the "girl power" etc... I never gave it any thought watching shows since I started all those years ago of a female lead being an issue or that they could not do something. So, this show can be a bit heavy handed with it. It's just not needed. Just show what your characters can do. The first season was REALLY bad about that.

It appears every single alien has super powers and is automatically stronger then humans.

I'm still not giving that portal a pass. No one makes a prototype that large.
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

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Thought it was a great episode. And I have no problems with women - can't say the same for some of the commentary in here

I do find it telling that Alex is taken to task for caring about her girlfriend but Kara can risk the world for Mon-El.
Those. So those.

As I posted last week, I can't believe I'm applauding the return of Cat, but it did work very well IMO. The use of Guardian in this one worked as well.

Very interested now in how Superman will be used next week.
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And I have no problems with women - can't say the same for some of the commentary in here
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Those. So those.
These. So these.

I like how people give reasons as to why they think the episode fell short, and the only response we can get from the social justice warriors is "I don't hate women like some people obviously do." despite not a single person saying anything about hating women.

But hey, why write a show that can be entertaining to everyone, when we can instead write a show which has become nothing more than liberal feminists ramblings about how evil Trump is, how great women are, and how special you are if your LBTQ. But they ignore stuff like their president(who is an alien and yet they don't seem to care, why an alien is president, who also won the presidency by defeating a horrible evil man) basically costing the lives of everyone on Air Force One and yet, Supergirl is just so glad that she voted for her she doesn't care and blindly follows her orders. That's the type of heavy handed garbage that people complain about.

You know, Buffy was never this heavy handed, neither was Dark Angel and they both told fun kickass Sci-Fi stories without alienating anyone who wasn't a liberal or a feminist. It's time these writers if they work on season 3(and God help us if they do) watch those shows and see what made them work.
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I like how people give reasons as to why they think the episode fell short
How in the world could anybody think any different?

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But hey, why write a show that can be entertaining to everyone, when we can instead write a show which has become nothing more than liberal feminists ramblings about how evil Trump is, how great women are, and how special you are if your LBTQ.
That's how. But it's great that people keep thinking their real feelings don't come through crystal clear in their posts. So much better it's it all right there in the open.

Anybody that lets the politics of a fictional TV show shape their enjoyment of a show is pretty small. That goes double for anybody that lumps the simple reality of sexually and racially diverse couples existing, and acting like white straight couples do, into the category of politics.
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But they ignore stuff like their president(who is an alien and yet they don't seem to care, why an alien is president, who also won the presidency by defeating a horrible evil man) basically costing the lives of everyone on Air Force One
Yep. Her stupid stunt got AF1 and her entire fighter escort destroyed (a billion dollars plus in destroyed aircraft), along with killing the pilots of her fighter escort (plus, as you note, all the other dead people on AF1 itself) and very probably killing civilians on the ground where the debris lands. Pointless grandstanding that gets people killed should make Kara angry, but apparently it's ok if you have the right sex and politics.
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Re: Supergirl (S2E21) -- "Resist" -- 5/15/17

I wonder how much thought (or time to think) the writers give to these "event" episodes? AF-1 flies toward the city? Yikes, stupid. Where's the countries' armed forces? (Or given the tech levels now - space forces?) Positron cannon on the roof? Use it last episode as soon as the ships arrive! Yikes!
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You know, Buffy was never this heavy handed, neither was Dark Angel and they both told fun kickass Sci-Fi stories without alienating anyone who wasn't a liberal or a feminist. It's time these writers if they work on season 3(and God help us if they do) watch those shows and see what made them work.
Excellent point but you know it won't happen. These writers have an agenda to push. I have a fairly high tolerance for political crap and stupidity but this episode exceeded it. I really can't stomach any more of this.
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That's how. But it's great that people keep thinking their real feelings don't come through crystal clear in their posts. So much better it's it all right there in the open.
Uh huh. Kind of like how in your posts your personal biases don't immediately come through since your response to anything that someone doesn't like is that they are racist/sexiest/homophobic. But hey, you stay on your high horse of superiority if you want.

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How in the world could anybody think any different?
By maybe actually paying attention to the facts and coming with an objective viewpoint? Nah can't do that.

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That's how. But it's great that people keep thinking their real feelings don't come through crystal clear in their posts. So much better it's it all right there in the open.
Just like yours do.

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Anybody that lets the politics of a fictional TV show shape their enjoyment of a show is pretty small. That goes double for anybody that lumps the simple reality of sexually and racially diverse couples existing, and acting like white straight couples do, into the category of politics.
Sigh. You really don't get it. I don't want politics in my superhero shows. I watch this show because I like Melissa, I like the Supergirl character, and I want a show that is as good as the best seasons of Flash and Arrow. Instead we have got what is easily the worst seasons of any of these shows because they are more concerned with being political than being entertaining. Hell posters on this thread are even commenting and have been commenting about how poorly written the show and characters are and how unlikeable they are. Yet, no one mentioned there sex, race or anything else until posters like you immediately come out and make it about that.

As for not letting your political beliefs interfere with a show. Believe it or not, there are people in this world who aren't liberal, and the show is not called Supergirl: Liberal icon and defender its called Supergirl. Does anyone give a crap that Supergirl voted Liberal? What possible purpose was there for that to be in the episode? Focus on telling good stories, not politics.
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As for not letting your political beliefs interfere with a show. Believe it or not, there are people in this world who aren't liberal, and the show is not called Supergirl: Liberal icon and defender its called Supergirl.
I'm not a liberal either unless I'm going to be labeled as such just because I speak out in support of equality for women and the LGBT community. I'm also happy to accept the claim that I'm on my high horse of superiority if that's the opposite if what you and others put out there on those topics.

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I hadn't checked Supergirl's ratings lately but they have never been much lower than this episode. That .5 in the 18-49 demo is not good at all, and loses over half of what the show had in episode one of this season. Supergirl is guaranteed to get five seasons because it's a major DC brand but this show is shedding viewers left and right. The critical sweeps ratings have been bad.

http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/su...n-two-ratings/
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