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Old 06-25-16, 02:21 AM
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

Not much to say yet, but I'm glad James is back. I'm still learning names, but bearded dude needs to gtfo asap.
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Bearded guy definitely needs to go. Glad to see him on the block. Have to give major props to both Nicole and Da'vonne for the way they're playing the newbies. I figured Da'vonne would be an immediate disaster, but she's impressing me this round.
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The blind eviction nomination is an interesting twist.

Really can undercut the HOH power (not sure if that is good or bad); in addition to making it harder to target or even backdoor someone, it also means two more people in the veto comp which makes that tougher to control for the HOH

It would seem to make any big alliance early on more powerful - as it gives that alliance a decent chance to get one of their targets up on the block even if they don't control HOH.
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What's interesting about the twists they've introduced in the past couple years is that they definitely play against any sort of strategic plans the players can make. I'm sure their goal is to keep the players off balance, on their toes, but when they meddle too much, it makes the game a lot more of a craps shoot.

It really is like Vegas. You can study and play your cards best you can, but in the end, 51% of your fate is up to the luck of the draw.
Old 06-28-16, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by JuryDuty
What's interesting about the twists they've introduced in the past couple years is that they definitely play against any sort of strategic plans the players can make. I'm sure their goal is to keep the players off balance, on their toes, but when they meddle too much, it makes the game a lot more of a craps shoot.

It really is like Vegas. You can study and play your cards best you can, but in the end, 51% of your fate is up to the luck of the draw.
As time has gone on, the game play has become more predictable in spite of efforts to thwart that and create big shocks and turnovers. One group sort of dominates and not a lot happens to change that (most of the ripples have come from "behavior issues"). On "Survivor" they try to get around predictable outcomes with editing tricks, and on "BB" they have to try to use "twists".
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

Originally Posted by wirefan
The blind eviction nomination is an interesting twist.

Really can undercut the HOH power (not sure if that is good or bad); in addition to making it harder to target or even backdoor someone, it also means two more people in the veto comp which makes that tougher to control for the HOH

It would seem to make any big alliance early on more powerful - as it gives that alliance a decent chance to get one of their targets up on the block even if they don't control HOH.
I can't help but think this new roadkill twist is just another means for production to manipulate and fix the game.

Looks like it's going to be a timed blind competition, so they can just hand the secret nomination power to anyone they want to have it. The players have no idea who won or how long it took them to do it, the viewers at home and on the feeds don't get to watch. Everyone has to take production's word that whoever won legitimately won.

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Old 06-28-16, 11:04 PM
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^ I was trying to avoid the conspiracy theory, but it makes it much harder for a true minority alliance wildcard player to shake things up as HOH as they now only can control 2 of the 3 nominees unless they also win the roadkill challenge too. It basically gives more power to anyone in a larger alliance - which early on seems to be the returnees and the 4 people they swung over.

I'm not sure they are cooking the actual competition, but I do wonder if the competitions are all mapped out in advance or maybe some of the challenges are re-ordered to perhaps steer things toward a more favorable outcome.
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Originally Posted by wirefan

I'm not sure they are cooking the actual competition, but I do wonder if the competitions are all mapped out in advance or maybe some of the challenges are re-ordered to perhaps steer things toward a more favorable outcome.
This has been the general theory for years now. I don't think AG (the producer) can outright rig the game but she can do everything this side of it and try to manipulate an outcome closer to what she's after. A theory right now (and its not on the show itself, so it's not a "spoiler") is that the first players off are going to be sequestered (supposedly first-player-off Glenn is), so that at least one of them can come back (in case the producers lose someone early that they favor).
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^ I was trying to avoid the conspiracy theory, but it makes it much harder for a true minority alliance wildcard player to shake things up as HOH as they now only can control 2 of the 3 nominees unless they also win the roadkill challenge too. It basically gives more power to anyone in a larger alliance - which early on seems to be the returnees and the 4 people they swung over.

I'm not sure they are cooking the actual competition, but I do wonder if the competitions are all mapped out in advance or maybe some of the challenges are re-ordered to perhaps steer things toward a more favorable outcome.
I *think* game show laws apply to shows like Big Brother so they can't outright rig competitions. That said, I've read pieces from editors on reality shows in the past that fully admit to changing a game to favor a certain player, or increase the drama/conflict.

The roadkill game isn't as much an opportunity to outright change the results to what they want, but to produce one more factor they can influence based on players strengths and weaknesses.

This last week's competition with the coconuts definitely favored someone small and light like Nicole and worked against a larger guy like Glenn.

With a show like Big Brother, the best players realize that in addition to playing against the other cast, they're also playing against production. If they can manipulate production by being a great villain or give great quotes, etc, they have a better chance of camera time and things going their way.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

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This has been the general theory for years now. I don't think AG (the producer) can outright rig the game but she can do everything this side of it and try to manipulate an outcome closer to what she's after. A theory right now (and its not on the show itself, so it's not a "spoiler") is that the first players off are going to be sequestered (supposedly first-player-off Glenn is), so that at least one of them can come back (in case the producers lose someone early that they favor).
Or they can just create a special power out of thin air and give it to the player they want to try to course correct the season.

That has happened more than a couple of times. (Jeff's coup d'état is probably the most blatant example).

Other blatant show rigs...BB13 reinstituting the partners at final 6 and making the competition a do over of the competition that Rachel already won to save both Rachel and Jordan. Sharon getting totally hosed in the final four HOH competition in BB9 so the show could save Ryan and Baller (of all people). Eric basically getting told he would get expelled if Dick left the week it was Dick/Dustin on the block.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

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Yeah, in BB8, during the live double eviction Eric won the POV and was told by production that they wouldn'y let him use it because he and Jessica were going to backdoor Evel Dick.

They even admitted it, using Eric being "America's Player" as the bullshit excuse.

If I was Eric I would have used the veto anyway. The shit's going out live and it would have been a huge black eye on the show for them to do anything. And what kind of a threat is kicking him off, anyway? It's obvious hey had the fix in for Dick and Danielle so he's not going to make the final two. I guess they could have withheld his stipend and whatever he won from being America's player, but kicking him off would have made the show look really bad.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

This Jozea retard is hilariously clueless. Seriously one of the most delusional/vain/moronic housemates ever. Almost a shame the bearded douche won veto; would rather he go and Jozea hang around another week or two to bring the funny.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

Just caught up with six hours of Big Brother. That was a lot of Big Brother. No real opinions on anyone yet, b/c I never trust Alison's edit.

HOH Team safe
Spoiler:
Category Four all safe


HOH for the week
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Paulie
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

All these twist have really cut any drama out of the season for at least a month. The structure of Roadkill/HOH setup makes it impossible for the 8Pack alliance fail and they should easily be able to just pick off the other side 1 by 1 even if non 8pack noobs grow a brain and figure they are sitting ducks.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

I figure if Glenn can just beat Jozea in this new comp announced last night, he'll be on the road to come back and clean things up. I believe the first challenge is based on Ariana Grande trivia. Good luck, Glenn!
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

Coverage of all four “Battle Back” competitions, leading up to the reveal of the winner, will air during a special Friday episode of Big Brother, airing in three weeks, on July 22.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

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Coverage of all four “Battle Back” competitions, leading up to the reveal of the winner, will air during a special Friday episode of Big Brother, airing in three weeks, on July 22.
I don't know why they're doing this. Why not let us see week-to-week a competition to heighten the tension? It's likely because they want to have more control over seeing who gets voted out so they can manipulate...
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Poor Glenn. He has to wait in sequester another 3 weeks for the chance to win 4 competitions in a row to get back on the show.
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So cute.

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So cute.

Yeah, she's probably the closest thing to a "hottie" this season, but I wish she'd cut back on all the make-up.
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Personally, I think Bridgette is cute.
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Re: Big Brother 18 (CBS) -- Premieres 6/22/2016

Yeah, Bridgette's kind of cute without being overtly hot.

Zakiyah looks pretty good, too. She was in bed with one of the meatheads last night, sort of feeling each other out, and looked pretty damned good. Horrible taste in men, though.


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