windom

Do most dumpsters have enough space under them for someone to crawl underneath one? I'll have to take a look whenever I see a dumpster now...

Shazam

What, haven't you dumpster dived for DVD cases behind Blockbusters? You should know everything about the things.

d2cheer

Is someone forcing you to watch it? I don't get all the complaints for the show you have a choice to watch or don't watch. I gave up a long time ago at the shows logic and decision making etc...it is easier to enjoy that way.

coli

We have 2 dumpsters at work:

-The large one (we put all trash in it) you can not crawl underneath as it goes right to the ground

-The smaller one (for cardboard only to recycle) is on wheels and you can go underneath. The problem is with that many zombies hanging on it, it easily would have moved.

The problem is they lost my trust when a major character 'supposedly' dies in the future because I am going to think they are going to pull a bait and switch with like they did with Glenn. The irony is they may actually kill Carol, Darryl or Rick in the future, and it could be a very emotional scene, but part of me will be thinking, "hmmmm....how are they going to survive this one?"

That is why when you do that with a major character, you better have a great payoff. Whether he was alive or dead last night, there was no payoff like the Sophia reveal in Season 2. I thought that this has been a solid season so far, and its a shame that they tried to get cute with this plot point.

Toonview

I predict the complaints about Glenn will have zero impact on the show's ratings or audience.

banthafett

What was Glenns special comment for the fans they kept advertising.about?

Dan

Really, this argument again? It's perfectly reasonable to provide critical analysis of aspects of something you may otherwise enjoy. Just because someone thinks this season has been tedious (and, IMO, it has, especially with the season premiere and the Morgan episode), that doesn't automatically mean they're hate-watching it just so they can complain about it here. In the great words of holy Groucho who is perfect and has never done anything wrong ever,
Personally, I still like the show, but I'm not going to pretend this season has been the best yet. I stick around because I've seen how excellent it can be (even in fleeting moments of this very season), and I'm hoping it gets there again.

Yeah, no shit. If this show were a bus, it would be something like this:

jjcool

Definitely a cheap cop out to resolve the Glenn situation. But it was seen coming a mile away. The showrunners lost a lot of goodwill with this stunt. Probably wont effect the number of viewers, but they lost a lot of believability in alot of fans eyes.

VinVega

Thank you fans for all your support for the character Glenn, I really appreciate it. I will be on Talking Dead tonight with producers and shit.

Oh, and remember to watch Into the Badlands in case you didn't know by the other 3 billion commercials we've shown.

Draven

Again, if you SEE THEM DIE, then I understand the complaint. If Beth had popped up in the next episode after obviously getting shot in the head, I would have been right there at the gate with torches.

We never saw Glenn die. Just like we never saw Judith die (though plenty of people said she was dead too). A minor character fell with him and they shot it in such a way that you couldn't see where the guts were coming from. Sure, it's dramatic. But if they wanted to show Glenn die, we would have seen him die. That's not the fault of this show - that's TV in general. How many times has a show cut to black with a gunshot and come back to find out they missed/it was a different gun/etc?

And again - I don't think it was a huge "payoff" because he obviously wasn't dead. But if we had actually seen him getting his guts ripped out and then he was A-Ok, I'd completely agree with you.

You've never seen a TV show where they made it look like someone was going to die but they totally didn't? I don't think they lost that many viewers since I'd assume some of them have seen shows do this exact same thing for decades.

mrhan

I've been a fan of the comic since the beginning; so I am going to watch it and see the differences. Most I like; others I hate. People automatically think your trolling just because you don't like certain aspects. Stupid fan boys; especially those that just jumped on the bandwagon.

Paff

I'd agree with all of your points, had they not removed Steven Yeun's name from the credits the last two weeks. Yes, TV shows will often trick you into thinking a character has been killed when in fact they haven't (Anyone remember Hill Street Blues' Lt. Hunter pointing a gun to his head, saying "I love you mother", and hearing a gun shot as the screen went to black?), but removing Yeun's name from the credits was a sign they wanted to milk this for all it was worth. It's cloying, and insulting to the viewers. I'll still watch, but I won't deny that I don't like this overly obvious attempt at trolling the audience.

Draven

1) I guarantee a vast majority of Walking Dead viewers didn't notice that. Or even know Glenn's real name, for that matter.

2) If he HAD been in the credits, those who would notice would have been jumping on the same internet boards to say SEE HE'S TOTALLY NOT DEAD!!! I'm okay with them leaving it a little bit ambiguous.

Also, it's a TV show. So who really cares?

JZ1276

I think that's what the writers want us to think. The church came down right after we saw the balloons. I have a gut feeling Glenn is getting killed for good next week.
Anyway, whats up with Rick taking down Father Gabriel's prayer flyers?

fumanstan

These two points are completely irrelevant since the fact is that they did actually remove it with no reason other then to make people think he was dead.

Your last sentence seems like you don't understand people's complaints at all. It's cool if all the hubub didn't bother you, but is it really that hard to see why others are annoyed? I thought Paff summed up the reasons why pretty accurately.

windom

It's obvious that the church falling was God's response to Rick taking down the prayer flyers.

dhmac

Comics stuff speculation - you have been warned...

OldBoy

frankly, at this point i don't think i would be sad to see anyone go. the show has been phenomenal and i have been enthralled since the start, but it's been what, 6 seasons already? that is incredible for any show and yet it will be on for more. i'd rather see it over a progression then anything in 2-3 episodes towards the end of the run...

mnementh

mnementh

We better see Abraham shoot grenades into the zombie horde next week.

andicus

Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you meant he was dead when the balloons floated away.

As for Father Gabriel... He's a dick. Maybe Rick just doesn't like him.

Jackskeleton

Well, he did try to get them tossed out of the community and has taken every step to being a huge dick since they essentially saved him. From trying to run from the situation to causing more damage. The dude is primed for some barbed wire bat beating.

Jason

Fan service.

Draven

But see, it actually DIDN'T make me think he was dead. In fact, because they left a gap that another actor's name could have easily moved into over his watch, I knew we'd see him again.

I don't understand it at all because again, I never for one minute thought he was dead. Just like I don't think a gunshot as any show goes to black at the end of a season means that one of the leads is dead for the whole summer. The mere fact that they didn't show Glenn die means that he's not dead. So why is everyone acting so shocked that they did exactly what they telegraphed they were doing? Hell, they even made it pretty clear he was going to slide under the dumpster.

Goldberg74

My guess would be