Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
#101
Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
The music in the show felt like I was watching the Olympics. I don't know, when you watch a show like this you want the score to be where it feels like you are in a different universe because its a superhero.
#102
Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I think TV producers can learn that by 2015, they can do TV shows with strong female characters without having to be pandering to the audience. For example, Xena was a strong female character, but she didn't have to repeat over and over that just because she is a woman doesn't mean she isn't strong. The same with other TV shows like La Femme Nikita, or the Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman. That is the main problem with Supergirl so far, besides the character being ridiculously stereotypical (bitchy boss, friend zone friend, attractive male colleague, overprotective and sketchy step sister, etc., dickhead bigot government official).
Yea that overt "because she's a girl" jargon was too much. Especially when that director guy said "she's not strong enough." And the sister said sarcastically, "because she's a girl?"
Um no, he said that because at the time, she was losing the fight. It's as simple as that.
Um no, he said that because at the time, she was losing the fight. It's as simple as that.
#103
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I think TV producers can learn that by 2015, they can do TV shows with strong female characters without having to be pandering to the audience. For example, Xena was a strong female character, but she didn't have to repeat over and over that just because she is a woman doesn't mean she isn't strong. The same with other TV shows like La Femme Nikita, or the Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman. That is the main problem with Supergirl so far, besides the character being ridiculously stereotypical (bitchy boss, friend zone friend, attractive male colleague, overprotective and sketchy step sister, etc., dickhead bigot government official).
Yea that overt "because she's a girl" jargon was too much. Especially when that director guy said "she's not strong enough." And the sister said sarcastically, "because she's a girl?"
Um no, he said that because at the time, she was losing the fight. It's as simple as that.
Um no, he said that because at the time, she was losing the fight. It's as simple as that.
the saving grace is Benoist and her entire manner. watching her is a revelation somewhere between a young Meryl Streep and a pre fappening Jennifer Lawrence. she has all the makings of a supernova star and causes the screen to positively glow (although that may be due to my watching on a cathode TV).
#104
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I have a hunch we won't ever get close-ups of Superman in costume, but I wonder if Clark Kent ever shows up.
#107
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
i eagerly await such scintillating dialogue as "girls rule boys drool" and the recipe for little boys. i hope they drop this affectation soon.
the saving grace is Benoist and her entire manner. watching her is a revelation somewhere between a young Meryl Streep and a pre fappening Jennifer Lawrence. she has all the makings of a supernova star and causes the screen to positively glow (although that may be due to my watching on a cathode TV).
the saving grace is Benoist and her entire manner. watching her is a revelation somewhere between a young Meryl Streep and a pre fappening Jennifer Lawrence. she has all the makings of a supernova star and causes the screen to positively glow (although that may be due to my watching on a cathode TV).
#108
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I think they've struck the right chord with Supergirl's personality. They never really explained why a Kryptonian on Earth would not use their powers for most of their formative years but it's something I can overlook.
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
Just watched the premiere. I like the lead, but that's about it.
Some things that I didn't care for have already been mentioned.
The over the top girl power stuff. I really wish it was more show and less tell/lecture on that front. I'm reminded of something I read that was attributed to Ridley Scott on the subject of Ripley being a female lead in Aliens: Relative to the difference between the xenomorphs and humans, the difference in gender for humans is negligible. Only in this case it's the reverse. It makes all this "Because she's a girl?!?" stuff seem ridiculous.
On a related issue, you would think one of the things they would modernize to make the story more feminist friendly would be to tweak the origin story so that she wasn't sent to earth just because Kal-el needed a babysitter.
The obvious dodges about he who must not be named was annoying, as was the utter lack of info on his involvement in her life. The reveal of the super criminals, who all want to harm her, only makes it more baffling, and that extends to her sister's decision to keep that very vital info a secret from her as well.
I really didn't like how the fight was handled. Was the master plan really to have the only weapon/power source that has ever caused her pain/injury to explode right in her face? The heat vision looked great, so I guess it had that.
Also Jimmy Olsen came off as creepy to me, but I know the young female demo eats up the confident older man love interest. Maybe it's because Kara seemed much younger than she's supposed to be because everyone treats her as a child. I was a bit surprised that she was even of drinking age.
Some things that I didn't care for have already been mentioned.
The over the top girl power stuff. I really wish it was more show and less tell/lecture on that front. I'm reminded of something I read that was attributed to Ridley Scott on the subject of Ripley being a female lead in Aliens: Relative to the difference between the xenomorphs and humans, the difference in gender for humans is negligible. Only in this case it's the reverse. It makes all this "Because she's a girl?!?" stuff seem ridiculous.
On a related issue, you would think one of the things they would modernize to make the story more feminist friendly would be to tweak the origin story so that she wasn't sent to earth just because Kal-el needed a babysitter.
The obvious dodges about he who must not be named was annoying, as was the utter lack of info on his involvement in her life. The reveal of the super criminals, who all want to harm her, only makes it more baffling, and that extends to her sister's decision to keep that very vital info a secret from her as well.
I really didn't like how the fight was handled. Was the master plan really to have the only weapon/power source that has ever caused her pain/injury to explode right in her face? The heat vision looked great, so I guess it had that.
Also Jimmy Olsen came off as creepy to me, but I know the young female demo eats up the confident older man love interest. Maybe it's because Kara seemed much younger than she's supposed to be because everyone treats her as a child. I was a bit surprised that she was even of drinking age.
#112
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
Watched the pilot. It's ok, I guess. The whole concept seems kind of corny. The bar is being set pretty high for this type of stuff, and this felt like a first-run syndication show from the mid 90's. I'll probably DVR and catch up with it if I hear that it gets better.
Oh, and this.
Oh, and this.
I was hoping Kara would choose that custome.
Dang, Melissa sure is a cutie.
I though this was a decent opener to a series.
They cover alot of ground.
Although already too many people know that Kara is Supergirl.
#113
Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
For the people claiming it was total "girl power". well Supergirl is a girl so you cannot expect her to be some total butch MMA fighter, the character is what it is, and I thought at least for the first episode it was pretty balanced, actually. We will see how that element plays out in future episodes.
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
They hinted there might be something to the story of why she is hiding. THere were several off hand comments like "it's been a long time since I flew", things like that.
For the people claiming it was total "girl power". well Supergirl is a girl so you cannot expect her to be some total butch MMA fighter, the character is what it is, and I thought at least for the first episode it was pretty balanced, actually. We will see how that element plays out in future episodes.
For the people claiming it was total "girl power". well Supergirl is a girl so you cannot expect her to be some total butch MMA fighter, the character is what it is, and I thought at least for the first episode it was pretty balanced, actually. We will see how that element plays out in future episodes.
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#117
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
Watched the official version. Didn't notice any changes myself.
One thing i noticed and couldn't unnotice is she has earrings. How would that be possible? No thin metal would pierce her ears. Also her ears would heal.
One thing i noticed and couldn't unnotice is she has earrings. How would that be possible? No thin metal would pierce her ears. Also her ears would heal.
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
@ a bunch of Males having an issue with the "girl power" aspect of a show called Supergirl. Maybe that wasn't meant for you guys?
#121
Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
If we are talking about girl power for > 16 year olds, then this show is asinine. Other shows have done it much much better, in a teenage setting: Buffy, Veronica Mars. Chloe from Smallville.
Finally, what are the odds of a comic-book character show surviving without the male demographic?
#122
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
Superman could shave so anything is possible.
Kryptonite tipped earrings? Magic ones? Who knows? In the comics anything is possible.
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I mean seriously. Yeah there was some cheesy moments, but saying this show is too girly? For crying out loud, it's about a nerdy 24 year old girl, who's an Executive Assistant and now a super hero. I don't need her to be a badass MMA fighter like Ronda Rousey or like White Canary. She's young, naive and will make mistakes. Nothing wrong with keeping her femininity. We'll see how things go on Monday, but it was a promising, although rushed start.
#124
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I wonder why there was never a panel in the comics showing Superman chewing off his toenails since that would have been the only way to trim them?
#125
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Re: Supergirl (S1E01) -- "Pilot" -- 10/26/15
I'd say the issue is less about the "girl power" theme in general, but how blunt and goofy it comes off when you have lines like the before mentioned one from her sister about being a girl which comes out of absolutely no where and unwarranted.