hanshotfirst1138

Maybe. Maybe not. But she said she got tired of hearing about it, especially in tabloid rags every time she showed up on the red carpet. It sounds like it was a big factor him her decision, and k think that's depressing.[/quote]

Even a mature 17 year-old is still a 17 year-old. I'm NOT saying she was out of line in any way doing what she did. It's her body, it's her choice, and I respect it. But her body is still growing. Making a major decision like cosmetic surgery at such a young age could be considered unhealthy. In this case, that may not be so. She probably consulted with medical professionals and had personal problems (she mentioned back troubles), but I would say that at that particular young age, other people's perceptions and comments are probably even more likely to play a major factor in her self-esteem and personal image than with a more advanced personal identity later.

I would guess most actresses, especially those who aren't even of legal she get, probably don't want that kind of attention. Yes, they should probably sadly understand that it comes with the territory, but that doesn't make it any less disgusting. It's an incredibly negative reflection on the industry, especially for young women.

That doesn't exactly make it less depressing.

She may not have been, I heard some horror stories about her mother. Plus, like I said, she's still young. I'm not saying that doesn't qualify her to make decisions (in spite of what Michigan seems to think), but having the media dictating your life is bound to make it even harder.

Or millions could've minded their own business and not been posting pictures of her on the Internet and not made gross comments. I'm not saying they're necessarily to "blame," just the fact that they played any part in it is a little gross. When I think about what a few comments have done for the self-esteem to friends of mine, that kind of constant media scrutiny can't be good for anyone.

hanshotfirst1138

Because Michigan doesn't allow for "mistake of fact" as a defense and the judge's 1950 s sense of morality meant that he was allowed to arbitrate the destruction of a young man's life. 16 is legal in Michigan, but even if she'd had a fake ID, he'd still have been charged. I'm not saying he did nothing wrong, but 90 days in jail and placement on the sex offender registry is fucking insane. When the girl's parents decided not press charges, that should've been the fucking end of it. But then, apparently it's up to the state to arbitrate morality in a case where two teenagers wanted to get laid.

jacob_b

So how did the court find out and get the case anyways? That's my biggest question. Thinking about Jared and how he got away with it for so long, so how if the parents not press charges, did it get to court unless the parents wanted to press charges and later dropped it?

Deftones

jesus, this shit again? seriously. talk about the fucking show, not her boobs.

movieking

The only female on this show that I've ever found remotely attractive is Julie Bowen. She's aged well since Ed. None of the others, including Vargara, ever turned my head.

And as for the episode, pretty much status quo, but there were probably a few more laughs than normal.

astrochimp

Major crush on Julie too

Decent episode.

jacob_b

I hope she breaks out from the show (always found Vargara annoying and one of the reasons I dislike the show). Julie is easily one of the best things about the show.

hanshotfirst1138

The girl is epileptic and her mother called the police because she didn't come home to take her medication. He dropped her off at the house. They grilled her and eventually found out they'd had sex. They showed up at his job the next day, threw him in jail for three months, and then put him on sex offender registry. After this giant legal mess, he MAY be able to get out of it, but his scholarship will be forfeit, his parents are broke, and the same judge did his same shit to another kid another a year ago. It's fucking insanity, and a joyous case of what happens when modern technology collides with antiquated morality that the court feels it's their legal obligation to legislate. She went back to school the next day. Wasn't punished at all for lying about her age. The info is on their Facebook page.

The Infidel

Why is there a discussion of Jared Fogle in the Modern Family thread? Jesus Christ, take it elsewhere.

dex14

Please drop this conversation. This thread should stick to discussing the episodes.

Goat3001

I thought this was about as good as Modern Family can be now. Not great, a few laughs but enjoyable nonetheless.

A lot of re-hashed plotlines too.

They did the whole getting in the high end pre-school thing with Mitch/Cam/Lilly.

They did the whole think with Mitch being lost while unemployed before. They also did Cam being unemployed and Mitch being annoyed by it.

They did the Andy/Haley will they/won't they on every TV show ever.

JimRochester

Although I generally prefer brunettes over blondes, I find Bowen very attractive. I much prefer the girl next door type to the bombshell like Vergara. If I were still a teen or 20 something I would prefer Alex to Haley. Sarah Hyland looks like a bobble-head to me.

I don't like when Claire brings up her wild youthful antics. It's done to get laughs from Phil's reactions however I don't like the humor. Most couples accept previous relationships however few discuss them for 20 years after being married. When Haley went to college and Claire gave her condoms she made some comment about a box not lasting a weekend when she went to school. Not many husbands want to hear that from their wives. So Julie yes, Claire no.

Can we discuss next week's episode where Alex gets boob reduction surgery and then starts dating a 35 year old pitchman from a national restaurant chain?

Sorry, shouldn't have thrown gasoline on the fire.

Count Dooku

Count Dooku

She's 45 years old. Happy Gilmore was 20 years ago and Ed was 15 years ago.

What do you think she would break out to?

jacob_b

Ed, another TV show, didn't last long. One big movie 15 years ago doesn't count. She should be in more comedy roles. I think she can be as funny as Elizabeth Banks who is all over the place.

Count Dooku

Julie Bowen has been acting her entire adult life. Even before Modern Family, she was much more successful than most, but certainly was not a star.
Now she is 45 and has three kids under age 10, and she is making about $10 million a year.
It's okay if she is content.

hanshotfirst1138

I carded a woman who was in her 40s today. I'd never have known. I actually did a double-take when I saw her license. She was kind enough not to punch me.

Paff

This week's episode was much better than the season premiere (that seems to have been the case with almost all the ABC sitcoms, oddly). I'm sure the Mitch and Cam haters were less impressed, as even I thought their little tiff at the soccer game was going a bit long. But I can overlook it more than most, apparently. And it led to the hilariously inappropriate joke about there being more than one person watching girls' soccer through binoculars.

JimRochester

One local grocery chain requires a DOB to be entered into the register when alcohol or age restrictive products are purchased. This takes any judgment out of the hands of cashiers and makes it a requirement of the computer.

hanshotfirst1138

I know, I just wish the people who whined about it did. The amount of complaining I have to put up with about the issues is just incessant. I have to listen to the endless complaining, especially from people who don't have it. It is beyond my intellectual capacity why anyone over the age of 18 would be outside of the house at any time of day or night for any reason whatsoever without some form of ID on them at all times and in all places. It drives me nuts.

I just did a double take when I saw her license because she looked significantly younger than she did. She noticed, but was thankfully flattered rather than offended.

Goat3001

This has been standard for me for the last few years too. It seems that every market I go to has to put my birthday into the computer before selling me beer. I think it's a good idea for a lot of reasons. However, I still don't get carded that often. Most of the time I'm just asked when my birthday is and they don't even bother asking me to prove it.

Well... people are stupid.

Next time someone gives you shit try telling them "if I don't check your ID and put your birthday in the computer I can get fired." MOST people aren't shitty enough to let you risk your job so they can get their booze without ID. Sure, a lot of people still are but I bet that line will shut most people up.

RichC2

I still refer to her more from Boston Legal than Modern Family, but she's done well for herself and who knows maybe she'll get to do a few flicks once Modern Family is off the air.

I know she isn't going to give up the $190k/episode they're paying her.

DRG

Punch you? She probably wanted to hug you.

jacob_b

I sometimes just have cash with me and no ID. It sucks when buying medicine as I feel like crap and just want to go home, but nope, have to have an ID now just for one Nyquill. I can see if I'm stocking up, sure, but come on. Not going to get messed off on just a smal dose.

Paff

Teenage girls' anatomies? Carding middle-aged women? Can we talk about Modern freakin' Family yet?

Like say, Gloria and the sippy cup? Mitch calling halftime "intermission"? I also loved the back and forth between Cam and Mitch making toast for French people, and whether or not it should be called French toast.