fujishig

Simmons will of course be back in some form or another.

Isn't your Ward question kind of answered in that scene in the bar, where he's rebuilding the Hydra biker gang?

On a side note I agreed with Agent 33: Bobbie didn't really care that much about Agent 33, Bobbie refused to even apologize (or even acknowledge before she was forced to) for ratting her out, and when they were going to lock her up, Bobbie didn't bat an eye. I understand that she would do it again for the good of the many, and that as soon as she showed remorse they were going to kill her, but geez.

PhantomStranger

The promo for Supergirl on CBS makes a reference to Bill 0'Reilly. Hollywood writers are 99.9% Democrat, especially on the broadcast networks.

This was a very strong finale to what I felt was a very uneven season. I keep seeing references to how good the show has become in season two but I am not getting it, honestly. While they did redeem Skye's father a bit towards the end, we got way too much of him over the season. They did seem to set things in motion for a better place for this series to go in season three.

It was disappointing they killed off Agent 33, Ward and her made for a very nasty pair. The Hydra stuff bores me, I really hope that isn't the main arc next year.

JasonF

Not sure how I feel about the finale. Definitely a step up from most of the season; definitely not at the highs of the post-Winter Soldier Season 1 episodes. I feel like the Inhumans were a poor fit for this show. I wish we had instead seen a confrontation with Strucker. Shield is always at its best (in the comics) when they are using fantastic tech to deal with enemy spy organizations like Hydra and AIM and THEM. Give us more of that next season (given what happened to Hydra, you could easily have a bunch of offshoots pop up and have SHIELD caught in the middle of a war between various evil spy orgs.

Also, I really don't like touchy feely Mr Hyde. It just feels wrong, and while I recognize the MCU is not the same as the comics, it's such a departure from the comics version that it just doesn't sit right with me.

Hopefully next season will click with me more.

Baron Of Hell

I really liked Hyde. Sure he was silly but that was his charm. I also liked the inhumans. I thought they were a good alternative to mutants. The only thing I didn't like how they kept saying inhuman.

Thrush

Aside from a few episodes here and there. This season was uneven at best.

Hyde got way too much screen time. I never bought him as a legit threat (maybe down to poor casting). Seeing him "hulked out" was more funny than anything. The inhumans and their storyline were both meh. Raina was interesting but she got killed off. Although not as bad as season one, I still find Skye annoying and wonder why they try to center every plot around her. Also the actress who played Skye's mother couldn't act.

I still dont understand why Ward was so obsessed with his GF getting closure. She was literally a non-character. I just watched the show and still couldn't tell you what she looked or sounded like. All the Shield rebuilding stuff has been kind of a mess.

hanshotfirst1138

So since her own show got cancelled, are Agent Tight T-Shirt and Hunter going to be back next season or not? Poor Fitz, he was finally about to get some loving . He and Simmons needed to talk about their feelings for each other.

Eventful but largely predictable season finale.

So with Agent 33 gone, they're obviously setting up Ward getting rag-tag HYDRA agents back together to be the Big Bad next season.

So Jai's power to be "immortal" means she has to siphon life out of others? I seriously feel naive for not seeing that coming. The May-Skye smack down had some nice choreography.

The 1967 GTO was one of the greatest cars ever.

Hyde is overacting. Just a bit.

A torture scene can now get a TV-PG rating?

As soon as Raina told the truth, I knew Jai would kill her. I didn't need psychic powers to forsee that.

Palicki must have some kind of martial arts training, she's in a lot of fight scenes.

I figured that that much juice would make him transform to flex the FX budget, though the makeup job was kind of lame.

Apparently, if you're an Inhuman, you can be deformed, but if you aren't, you look like a model .

The scene with Coulson and Cal where he breaks down was genuinely kind of touching.

So basically you can perform any form of hacking into any kind of hyper-advanced computer with a laptop?

Saw Agent Tight T-Shirt managing to get the way of the bullet from a mile off. I get that he's concerned, but if he's a trained agent who knows its a trap, you think that Hunter would know not to just go straight in.

"I'm the guy who kills Gordon."
While moderately better than "I'm your worst nightmare, that was still really, really bad. Like "why would you write that line" bad.

This show is still probably only not cancelled by the grace of its connection with the blockbuster Marvel movies, and it still has something of an identity crisis, but it has certainly come a lot way once it got a better sense of direction, and in typical Whedon fashion, the mismatched misfit crew of characters are fun enough to keep me coming back. Coulson will probably have a cyborg hand come next season.

Is that stone connected to the gravity thing from back in the first season? If not, where did it come from?

PhantomStranger

My understanding is that the potential spin-off may still be on the table down the line. I understand why they re-engineered the entire show around Skye but I have never liked her as a field agent in the mold of May.

johnnysd

It's always been about Skye predominantly.

fujishig

Didn't they say the thing was a few centuries old or something?

I don't mind Skye as a super agent if only because it spared us seasons of Skye as a useless rookie agent that still goes on important missions. I still think it's dumb that Coulson as director and this small band of his favorite agents take all the dangerous missions. I like it better when there are at least hints that there are other agents doing other missions.

fumanstan

Yeah, I don't think the show was "re-engineered" around Skye at all. Also agree that the scope of the show and the current SHIELD group is inconsistent and poorly conveyed.

hanshotfirst1138

For a while, it basically was Coulson's rag-tag Scooby gang. Now it's sort of nebulous, sometimes it looks like SHIELD is pretty big, other times they seem to be the only ones which can do things. I think they need to work a little more on specializing the skills of the characters. Now that Skye isn't the rookie anymore, her, May, and Agent Tight T-Shirt all kind of serve the same purpose as muscle. Fitz and Simmons as the science end are a good idea, but the team is basically split into fighters and hackers. The Marvel Universe is so expansive, they should find more stuff for everybody to do.

fujishig

I always thought that the makeup of the team in season 1 was kinda dumb: Ward was the muscle, Coulson the leader, May the pilot who never went on missions, Skye the non-SHIELD agent who could betray them at any moment (but really the hacker), and FitzSimmons the science geeks (one specializing in tech, the other in bio). It felt like they didn't have enough muscle for the missions they were going on, and it seemed to play out that way most of the time too. So I didn't mind that they added Bobbi, Hunter, Tripp, and mechanic Mack, even if there was some overlap.

At the end of the season, Bobbi seems like she needs a vacation she'll take Hunter on (not sure if that was an attempt to set up the spinoff), May wanted some time off, Mack is head of alien tech, FitzSimmons are back together/torn apart, and Coulson is forming a bunch of Secret Warriors with powers, which will hopefully be varied and not just obvious ways to cheap out showing powers. I'm sure most of those characters will be back (unless the spinoff happens), but outside of a rotating band of specialists that they should pull from the rest of SHIELD and insert as needed, I'm fine with that makeup.

mikehunt

especially considering that (spoiler for Avengers 2)

Thrush

Pretty much, and thats been one of my biggest issues with the show. Almost every plot revolves around the most annoying character on the show.

Lifepawn

That was my favorite line of the whole series.

barelypure

Maybe Coulson should talk to Barry Allen to see if he could convince some of the meta humans in joining the team.

PhantomStranger

I guess they just don't have the budget for regularly including super-villains. When season two opened with the Absorbing Man, that was probably my favorite moment of season two. I have a feeling we are going to get various redshirt Inhumans as villains in season three. It would be different if we were getting major Inhumans like Crystal but I assume the show won't be able to use the familiar Inhumans.

hanshotfirst1138

Absorbing Man was cool. The makeup isn't too bad, I just think the show's lower popularity means that they've probably thrown as much money at it as they're going to. That said, there was definitely a jump in production values between the first and second seasons.

fumanstan

The first half of season 2 seemed like so long ago with Absorbing Man.

Hokeyboy

Finally watched this. Decent (but not particular notable) finale for what was mostly a pretty mediocre season. I couldn't care less about Skye and/or The Inhumans; as a narrative they've been as stimulating as a Novocaine shot. Both this and Gotham are vaya con pollo.

Obi-Wanma

Go with chicken?

Hokeyboy

It's really a healthier alternative.

I mean, not for the chicken, but that's why we have nice things.

Jason

I am, actually. Fox has shown that they pretty much feel that mutant = Wolverine, so I'd just as soon not have that character dominate the MCU the way he has the Fox X-movies.

Yes, I know he's popular, and was my favorite character as a kid back in the early 80's, but that was before he got his claws into everything.

Hokeyboy

I wasn't the biggest X-Men fan (mostly the Claremont/Cockrum/Byrne stuff and everything leading up to X-Factor in the mid 80s, but in the Shooter era I much preferred Avengers, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Captain America, etc.), but I was never a big Wolverine fan. By the late 80s, early 90s he became unbearable. Whatever sense of subtlety and nuance Claremont developed was long gone in favor of FERAL! KICKASS! BEST AT WHAT HE DOES!! etc. Fan service at its ultimate worst.

But he was a fan favorite. I found it fascinating that when all the Marvel talent left in the early 90s to form Image, almost each and every one of them immediately created their own "Wolverine clone". Liefeld alone had like 15 of them. NONE of them got it.

I'd love to see a Nightcrawler/Colossus buddy film.

TheBigDave

Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season 2) is going to be available on Netflix Streaming on June 11th.

http://forum.dvdtalk.com/streaming-t...l#post12488590