Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Discussion Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
But Daredevil's radar is 360 and he's hyper aware of everything. Or at least he's supposed to be, as there were more than a few instances in the series where he conveniently didn't have this sensory power. Sorta like when Walking Dead needs their zombies to be stealthy ninjas; cheap contrivance!
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
But Daredevil's radar is 360 and he's hyper aware of everything. Or at least he's supposed to be, as there were more than a few instances in the series where he conveniently didn't have this sensory power. Sorta like when Walking Dead needs their zombies to be stealthy ninjas; cheap contrivance!
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
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Well to be fair again, the link he posted was a wiki link which like I said is not always accurate because it is user-submitted info.
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
Stick: Open yourself up to it. Learn it. Make you way stronger, more focused, even heal your wounds faster.
Matt: You can do that?
Stick: How do you think I'm still alive, kid?
He doesn't specifically state it slows aging, although I suppose it could be inferred. Does he have any anti-aging ability in the comics?
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Well to be fair again, the link he posted was a wiki link which like I said is not always accurate because it is user-submitted info.
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
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I didn't get that he was saying he was using the technique to stave off aging/death, but I can see how it may have been meant that way. If he had said a similar line after returning then it would be clearer but it doesn't make sense for him to hint at it that way with young Matt who, as far as we know, doesn't know his age or that he doesn't appear to age.
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
Unless there's another scene I missed, the one where he talks about meditation goes :
Stick: Open yourself up to it. Learn it. Make you way stronger, more focused, even heal your wounds faster.
Matt: You can do that?
Stick: How do you think I'm still alive, kid?
He doesn't specifically state it slows aging, although I suppose it could be inferred. Does he have any anti-aging ability in the comics?
Stick: Open yourself up to it. Learn it. Make you way stronger, more focused, even heal your wounds faster.
Matt: You can do that?
Stick: How do you think I'm still alive, kid?
He doesn't specifically state it slows aging, although I suppose it could be inferred. Does he have any anti-aging ability in the comics?
I didn't get that he was saying he was using the technique to stave off aging/death, but I can see how it may have been meant that way. If he had said a similar line after returning then it would be clearer but it doesn't make sense for him to hint at it that way with young Matt who, as far as we know, doesn't know his age or that he doesn't appear to age.
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
Speaking of Stick's episode can anyone fill me in on his final scene with his master or whatever. It was kind of a heavy thing to drop on an audience unfamiliar with the DD mythology. I was thinking they might get into it more in later episodes but they didn't. Is it perhaps related to Madame Gao's line her homeland being "much farther away" than China?
And any info on the "Black Sky" thing. At first I thought Stick was bluffing about taking care of it because it really seemed like something that shouldn't be done off screen, but I was wrong and the storyline was pretty much dropped after that.
For the benefit of others please spoiler tag any DD canon that hasn't been revealed in the series.
And any info on the "Black Sky" thing. At first I thought Stick was bluffing about taking care of it because it really seemed like something that shouldn't be done off screen, but I was wrong and the storyline was pretty much dropped after that.
For the benefit of others please spoiler tag any DD canon that hasn't been revealed in the series.
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And any info on the "Black Sky" thing. At first I thought Stick was bluffing about taking care of it because it really seemed like something that shouldn't be done off screen, but I was wrong and the storyline was pretty much dropped after that.
For the benefit of others please spoiler tag any DD canon that hasn't been revealed in the series.
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Well to be fair again, the link he posted was a wiki link which like I said is not always accurate because it is user-submitted info.
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
The two posts saying it was meditation causing him not to age were also by one person, so it was also just one person saying this. Before that there were a few other posters saying they were confused by the lack of aging as well. So I was just playing the odds with the masses being right instead of the one.
His first post was just weirdly stated too, which is why I thought it was all a joke. He said that it was "clearly" explained that meditation kept Stick "so young." There's nothing "clear" about it since other posters were as confused as I was. Also, saying Stick was "so young" is just weird considering he has the body of a 70 year old man both in the flashbacks and the present. So yeah, it just sounded like a joke the way he said it.
Anyway, back to the show. I thought the Black Sky thing and the Stick episode was poorly executed with too much stuff left for another season, which other episodes on the show never do. Didn't care for the questions it left.
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Anyway, back to the show. I thought the Black Sky thing and the Stick episode was poorly executed with too much stuff left for another season, which other episodes on the show never do. Didn't care for the questions it left.
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Everyone who finished watching should go back and read the link I posted earlier about various references and easter eggs
http://screenrant.com/daredevil-netf...eggs-spoilers/
Easter Eggs and comic references. Spoilers in there for those who haven't finished watching yet.
Easter Eggs and comic references. Spoilers in there for those who haven't finished watching yet.
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
Superman can be in outer space and yet he can still somehow hear sounds in Metropolis. It's just comic book science. You just have to roll with it because it never makes sense.
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And I didn't infer that the logo on Gao's drugs was just an easter egg and nothing more. I have no doubt there will be some link to Iron Fist and was certainly deliberate.
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It didn't bother me too much, but it would be nice for the writers to be consistent on what he can and can't do. As long as stretching his powers doesn't become a habit for lazy writing, I'm willing to give the writers a little leeway.
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How far does Daredevil's hearing sense reach in the comics? Just out of curiosity, I always thought it was more localized so seeing him up high being able to hear what seems to be miles away was new to me.
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Technically, you were sorta jerky about it first to me. But I'm happy to let it slide so lets drop it and move on.
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I give Daredevil the nod. Spidey's sixth sense provides no actually information other then "Look out" and is basically useless in a fight since danger is ongoing. Daredevil gets constant feedback so he knows things that help him in the actual fight, as well as proved useful info on his surroundings. Spidey will get a warning in a crowd of people that "danger" is imminent, but won't know where it is coming from. Daredevil will pinpoint a random goon from a crowd from the smell of gun oil from a concealed handgun and hearing his rapid breathing.
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
His hearing? Ehhhhh. It varies. Some writers extend it pretty far. That kind of irked me too. Again, this is me coming from my DD love of Miller, Bendis, and Brubaker. They seemed to make it more
DD's rader is sight pretty much. His smell and touch is insanely heightened. Awwww fuck it. Here's a general overall of DD's powers and such.
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DD's rader is sight pretty much. His smell and touch is insanely heightened. Awwww fuck it. Here's a general overall of DD's powers and such.
via Wikipedia:
Powers and abilities[edit]
Although the character is blind, his remaining four senses function with high levels of superhuman accuracy and sensitivity, giving him abilities far beyond the limits of a sighted person; few know that the hero cannot see. Daredevil developed a radar sense,[83] which is similar to echolocation.
When Frank Miller expanded most of Daredevil's abilities, he attempted to make them "extraordinary enough to be exciting, but not on par with Superman", noting Superman's distinctly unbelievable powers. When Miller joined the title in 1979, the first thing he did to the character was "revamp" his radar sense and made it less distinct and more believable; he wanted Daredevil to have the "proximity" sense that some martial artists claim to have. Due to the character's sensitive sense of touch, Daredevil can read by passing his fingers over the letters on a page. Though laminated pages prevent him from reading the ink. Daredevil has commonly used his superhuman hearing to serve as a lie detector for interrogation by listening for changes in a person's heartbeat. This ability can be fooled if the other person's heart is not beating at a natural rate, such as if they have a pacemaker.
Just as Daredevil's other senses are stronger, they are also sensitive; his main weakness is his vulnerability to powerful sounds or odors that can be used to temporarily weaken his radar sense. This weakness is often used to immobilize Daredevil if he is bombarded by too much sound, which will cause him great pain and disorient him. Since Daredevil's means of sight is based on what his radar sense and enhanced senses are able to detect, if anybody or anything around him does not exhibit any of these factors, then Daredevil would be unable to sense it. In one instance the hallucinogenic drug that Mysterio created was designed with no taste or smell so Daredevil could not tell he was drugged until he consulted Doctor Strange who was able to discover it from the small cross that Mysterio gave to Daredevil in disguise which contained the drug and Strange magically cured him.
His senses are highly acute; he has even been shown to be capable of sensing the minor atmospheric disturbance created when Nightcrawler is about to appear moments before the mutant in question actually arrives at his destination. When Daredevil fought Psylocke during the war between the Avengers and the X-Men, he briefly gained an advantage when she tried to read his mind and found herself overwhelmed by the sensory input she received from his enhanced senses, reflecting the scale of psychological training required for Daredevil to operate as he does.
While his radar sense mostly compensates for his blindness, it has certain limitations (explored most strongly during Mark Waid's run on the title). He can't perceive color without touch, and he can only read printed matter if the ink is raised enough for his sense of touch.[volume & issue needed] Most photographs, televisions, and computer screens are blank to him. He has also been shown to have difficulty perceiving a person's race (without cues other than skin color).
Though he has no superhuman physical attributes beyond an enhanced sense of balance, Daredevil is a master of martial arts. Having been trained by Stick, Daredevil is a master hand-to-hand combatant. His typical moves are unique blends of the martial arts of ninjutsu, aiki jujutsu, jujitsu, kung fu, capoeira, judo, aikido, wrestling, and stick fighting combined with American-style boxing while making full use of his gymnastics capabilities.
Daredevil's signature weapon is his specially-designed billy club, which he created. Disguised as a blind man's cane in civilian garb, it is a multi-purpose weapon and tool that contains thirty feet of aircraft control cable connected to a case-hardened steel grapnel. Internal mechanisms allow the cable to be neatly wound and unwound, while a powerful spring launches the grapnel. The handle can be straightened for use when throwing. The club can be split into two parts, one of which is a fighting baton, the other of which ends in a curved hook.
In his civilian identity, Murdock is a skilled and respected attorney with an encyclopedic knowledge of law,[citation needed] especially New York statutes. He is a skilled detective, tracker, and interrogation expert, as well as being an expert marksman
Although the character is blind, his remaining four senses function with high levels of superhuman accuracy and sensitivity, giving him abilities far beyond the limits of a sighted person; few know that the hero cannot see. Daredevil developed a radar sense,[83] which is similar to echolocation.
When Frank Miller expanded most of Daredevil's abilities, he attempted to make them "extraordinary enough to be exciting, but not on par with Superman", noting Superman's distinctly unbelievable powers. When Miller joined the title in 1979, the first thing he did to the character was "revamp" his radar sense and made it less distinct and more believable; he wanted Daredevil to have the "proximity" sense that some martial artists claim to have. Due to the character's sensitive sense of touch, Daredevil can read by passing his fingers over the letters on a page. Though laminated pages prevent him from reading the ink. Daredevil has commonly used his superhuman hearing to serve as a lie detector for interrogation by listening for changes in a person's heartbeat. This ability can be fooled if the other person's heart is not beating at a natural rate, such as if they have a pacemaker.
Just as Daredevil's other senses are stronger, they are also sensitive; his main weakness is his vulnerability to powerful sounds or odors that can be used to temporarily weaken his radar sense. This weakness is often used to immobilize Daredevil if he is bombarded by too much sound, which will cause him great pain and disorient him. Since Daredevil's means of sight is based on what his radar sense and enhanced senses are able to detect, if anybody or anything around him does not exhibit any of these factors, then Daredevil would be unable to sense it. In one instance the hallucinogenic drug that Mysterio created was designed with no taste or smell so Daredevil could not tell he was drugged until he consulted Doctor Strange who was able to discover it from the small cross that Mysterio gave to Daredevil in disguise which contained the drug and Strange magically cured him.
His senses are highly acute; he has even been shown to be capable of sensing the minor atmospheric disturbance created when Nightcrawler is about to appear moments before the mutant in question actually arrives at his destination. When Daredevil fought Psylocke during the war between the Avengers and the X-Men, he briefly gained an advantage when she tried to read his mind and found herself overwhelmed by the sensory input she received from his enhanced senses, reflecting the scale of psychological training required for Daredevil to operate as he does.
While his radar sense mostly compensates for his blindness, it has certain limitations (explored most strongly during Mark Waid's run on the title). He can't perceive color without touch, and he can only read printed matter if the ink is raised enough for his sense of touch.[volume & issue needed] Most photographs, televisions, and computer screens are blank to him. He has also been shown to have difficulty perceiving a person's race (without cues other than skin color).
Though he has no superhuman physical attributes beyond an enhanced sense of balance, Daredevil is a master of martial arts. Having been trained by Stick, Daredevil is a master hand-to-hand combatant. His typical moves are unique blends of the martial arts of ninjutsu, aiki jujutsu, jujitsu, kung fu, capoeira, judo, aikido, wrestling, and stick fighting combined with American-style boxing while making full use of his gymnastics capabilities.
Daredevil's signature weapon is his specially-designed billy club, which he created. Disguised as a blind man's cane in civilian garb, it is a multi-purpose weapon and tool that contains thirty feet of aircraft control cable connected to a case-hardened steel grapnel. Internal mechanisms allow the cable to be neatly wound and unwound, while a powerful spring launches the grapnel. The handle can be straightened for use when throwing. The club can be split into two parts, one of which is a fighting baton, the other of which ends in a curved hook.
In his civilian identity, Murdock is a skilled and respected attorney with an encyclopedic knowledge of law,[citation needed] especially New York statutes. He is a skilled detective, tracker, and interrogation expert, as well as being an expert marksman
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Just watched the first episode with Fisk. It's really refreshing to see my awkwardness around women portrayed on screen.
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It depends on the writer. But in the comics, he can tract someone's breathing or heartbeat from several city blocks away, or through a soundproof wall. They explain his convenient missing of things with his senses by saying that he constantly has to focus to weed out all the sensory information around him.
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It depends on the writer. But in the comics, he can tract someone's breathing or heartbeat from several city blocks away, or through a soundproof wall. They explain his convenient missing of things with his senses by saying that he constantly has to focus to weed out all the sensory information around him.
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Re: Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix) - Season 1 Thread - Premieres 4/10/15
I didn't have a problem with him hearing the truck conversation because I just figured when he's doing that rooftop monitoring thing he's putting all his concentration into listening to the city. Of course it's unrealistic for him to be able to filter thousands of simultaneous conversations and other noises but I just put that down as another aspect of his supernatural ability.
One supersense moment I thought they messed up was that he apparently didn't smell the gunpowder residue on Karen. I know she showered, but if he's telling Foggy what he had for lunch 2 days ago I would think he could still detect gunpowder residue after a shower. Maybe he did detect it and just kept quiet, but he knows something is wrong and if he suspected it involved gunfire around her then it's difficult to imagine he wouldn't push harder on the issue.
One supersense moment I thought they messed up was that he apparently didn't smell the gunpowder residue on Karen. I know she showered, but if he's telling Foggy what he had for lunch 2 days ago I would think he could still detect gunpowder residue after a shower. Maybe he did detect it and just kept quiet, but he knows something is wrong and if he suspected it involved gunfire around her then it's difficult to imagine he wouldn't push harder on the issue.
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They do indeed specifically show him meditating in the middle of his living room (and if I recall, he is flashing back in his mind to his fight with nobu), and he specifically tells claire that meditation helps his healing.