Grimm (NBC) -- Season 4 Thread -- premieres 10/24/14
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Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
"HEADACHE"
05/08/2015 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Friday) : THE MANHUNT CONTINUES FOR A VICIOUS SERIAL KILLER - JACQUELINE TOBONI RETURNS AS 'TRUBEL' - While investigating a grisly murder, Nick (David Giuntoli) and Hank (Russell Hornsby) get closer to uncovering the identity of the serial killer while Wu's (Reggie Lee) life is put in grave danger. Having turned down Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell) and Rosalee's (Bree Turner) offer, Juliette (Bitsie Tulloch) solidifies a new alliance as she works to get her revenge. Elsewhere, Trubel (guest star Jacqueline Toboni) makes a surprising return to Portland. Sasha Roiz and Claire Coffee also star. Nico Evers-Swinderll guest stars. TV-14 V
05/08/2015 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Friday) : THE MANHUNT CONTINUES FOR A VICIOUS SERIAL KILLER - JACQUELINE TOBONI RETURNS AS 'TRUBEL' - While investigating a grisly murder, Nick (David Giuntoli) and Hank (Russell Hornsby) get closer to uncovering the identity of the serial killer while Wu's (Reggie Lee) life is put in grave danger. Having turned down Monroe (Silas Weir Mitchell) and Rosalee's (Bree Turner) offer, Juliette (Bitsie Tulloch) solidifies a new alliance as she works to get her revenge. Elsewhere, Trubel (guest star Jacqueline Toboni) makes a surprising return to Portland. Sasha Roiz and Claire Coffee also star. Nico Evers-Swinderll guest stars. TV-14 V
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I have trouble believing that Nick's mother was so stupid/trusting and didn't even check to see what the situation was before arriving as she did. Even Truble had a lot more sense. It really seems to go against how she's been portrayed in the past.
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I agree--it was a really strange way to kill her, off-screen like that, since she's a "name" actor. Kind of how they apparently got rid of Alexis Denisof's character. I wonder if there was some contract issue with Mastrontonio. On the other hand it could be a fake-out... I don't like those, but I like the character so I wouldn't mind her still being alive.
I thought they'd have a hard time redeeming Juliette after last season, but they did make her much more likable once her memories came back. But this? I don't see how she could be redeemed from this.
I thought they'd have a hard time redeeming Juliette after last season, but they did make her much more likable once her memories came back. But this? I don't see how she could be redeemed from this.
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
Eh. I think evil Juliette is much more interesting anyways. But I don't like the fact that made Adalind impotent- she was was the perfect foil for Juliette and Nick, now she really has no role except for Nick's baby moma.
Truble is boring as hell and terrible actress to boot. I'm kind of bummed they brought her back so soon.
Truble is boring as hell and terrible actress to boot. I'm kind of bummed they brought her back so soon.
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I agree--it was a really strange way to kill her, off-screen like that, since she's a "name" actor. Kind of how they apparently got rid of Alexis Denisof's character. I wonder if there was some contract issue with Mastrontonio. On the other hand it could be a fake-out... I don't like those, but I like the character so I wouldn't mind her still being alive.
I thought they'd have a hard time redeeming Juliette after last season, but they did make her much more likable once her memories came back. But this? I don't see how she could be redeemed from this.
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
Sasha Roiz's portral of "Jack" was great... such a departure from what we are use to seeing from him (on Grimm and on Caprica).
... and in that last scene all I could think of was...
... and in that last scene all I could think of was...
Spoiler:
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I agree, that "impression" of Jack the Ripper was great. I didn't expect it at all during last week's episode.
What's in the box?!
What's in the box?!
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I don't see how they could even redeem Juliette as a character now. She just went too far with helping to have Nick's mother killed. She is in that Anakin killing younglings phase now. With Adalind suppressing her Hexinbeist side she is still the same person so the same would be said for Juliette. Same evil bitch but just powerless.
I recently rewatched the first three seasons and no way would I have expected the way the series has ended up after the first season. Which is a good thing. Really love the show.
I recently rewatched the first three seasons and no way would I have expected the way the series has ended up after the first season. Which is a good thing. Really love the show.
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Re: Grimm (S4E21) -- "Headache" -- 5/8/15
I think Julliette has gone way to far, no way they can bring her back.
I hope Adelind gets her powers back, its my understanding that the drink just lets her control her powers better, not completely cure her correct?
Oh and I'm calling it, Nick/Adelind's baby is going to be like the starchild from V.
I hope Adelind gets her powers back, its my understanding that the drink just lets her control her powers better, not completely cure her correct?
Oh and I'm calling it, Nick/Adelind's baby is going to be like the starchild from V.
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Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
"CRY HAVOC"
05/15/2015 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Friday) : A HORRIFYING DISCOVERY SETS NICK ON A WAR PATH - JACQUELINE TOBONI AND NICO EVERS-SWINDELL GUEST STAR - On the heels of a shocking discovery, Nick (David Giuntoli) is hell bent on getting revenge and taking the fight to the Royals with help from Trubel (guest star Jacqueline Toboni). Meanwhile, Juliette's (Bitsie Tulloch) alliance continues to lead her down a dark path. Russell Hornsby, Silas Weir Mitchell, Sasha Roiz, Reggie Lee, Bree Turner and Claire Coffee also star.
05/15/2015 (08:00PM - 09:00PM) (Friday) : A HORRIFYING DISCOVERY SETS NICK ON A WAR PATH - JACQUELINE TOBONI AND NICO EVERS-SWINDELL GUEST STAR - On the heels of a shocking discovery, Nick (David Giuntoli) is hell bent on getting revenge and taking the fight to the Royals with help from Trubel (guest star Jacqueline Toboni). Meanwhile, Juliette's (Bitsie Tulloch) alliance continues to lead her down a dark path. Russell Hornsby, Silas Weir Mitchell, Sasha Roiz, Reggie Lee, Bree Turner and Claire Coffee also star.
Renewed for season 5. Will return this Fall
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
That had to happen but I wish it was Nick that did it.
I can't remember who that was at the end. Was that the Wesen that worked for the FBI? I can't remember what faction she was working with.
I can't remember who that was at the end. Was that the Wesen that worked for the FBI? I can't remember what faction she was working with.
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
I liked Juliette's power yet not what they did to her.
Nick really needs to move elsewhere now. Too many bad events along with far too many people knowing where he lives.
Also wonder why Trubel felt off, like passive and almost did not care about some things.
Nick really needs to move elsewhere now. Too many bad events along with far too many people knowing where he lives.
Also wonder why Trubel felt off, like passive and almost did not care about some things.
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
Not sure if we missed it but did we find out who called Trubel when she was in the truck with Bud?
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
I believe it was that female FBI agent who called Truebel. I remember she was trying to recruit her to her vessen cause and I bet something happened with Josh in philadelphia and Truebel now works for whatever Vessen cause that Female FBI agent is involved in. That agent is in for a shock when she realizes that Nick is a Grimm, cause the last time they met Nick had lost his Grimm powers. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
I believe it was that female FBI agent who called Truebel. I remember she was trying to recruit her to her vessen cause and I bet something happened with Josh in philadelphia and Truebel now works for whatever Vessen cause that Female FBI agent is involved in. That agent is in for a shock when she realizes that Nick is a Grimm, cause the last time they met Nick had lost his Grimm powers. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
Great season, and I'm still amazed this show has survived for four seasons. My favorite show that is currently airing (unless 24 returns!)
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
Finally watched this episode. For a show about monsters, it sure did get dark quickly. I doubt Juliette is dead. It looks like Trouble missed the vital organs on purpose. I think the arrows were laced with the knockout powder from the spice shop and the FBI lady will collect Juliette. I can't see them "shipping" Nick and Adalind considering she killed his Aunt who raised him. Bringing Messiner back and setting him up with Adalind seems the way to go.
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Re: Grimm (S4E22) -- Season Finale -- "Cry Havoc" -- 5/15/15
I rewatched the finale and stick to to my earlier statement: The wessen are in for a surprise when they think they're going to take trubel and find two not one Grimm.