Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12

DJariya · 05-13-12, 03:27 PM

By djariya at 2012-03-22

Synopsis:

Spoiler:

Episode 9 of 13

auto · 05-13-12, 04:29 PM

9 of 13! Man, this season is flying by. They weren't kidding about minimal Betty. Surprised they even bothered with her weird fat episode.

Mike86 · 05-13-12, 04:36 PM

Dang this season is going by really fast. It won't be long before we're having to wait who knows how long for another to begin

. On the plus side we're getting closer to Breaking Bad Season Five

.

misterchimpy · 05-13-12, 04:38 PM

Interesting title, ha. According to Wikipedia, Dark Shadows debuted on June 27,1966, so of course would fit right in with the timeframe of the episode(Revolver was released on August 5,1966). And of course, duh, I'm sure it has some double meaning for whoever seems destined to buy it this season. Maybe we'll get some shots of Pete lurking in the bushes outside of Rory Gilmore's house

or sucking the blood out of her neck.

I'm sure it's not a coincidence either that it is timed for the weekend of the movie's opening. Maybe it's like a really clever product placement ad?

(So that's how they paid for the Beatles song!)

BTW, programming note, the cast of Mad Men will be on "Inside the Actors Studio" on Monday, 5/14 at 7 pm(and then repeated a million times). Looks like they have pretty much all of the leads(what, no Jessica Pare or Aaron Staton????). The blog says they spent 6 hours taping it, that must really have been exhausting.

http://www.bravotv.com/inside-the-ac...ad-mad-mad-men

Jack Straw · 05-13-12, 05:06 PM

Thanks for the heads-up about Lipton. Got it set to record.

anomynous · 05-13-12, 10:06 PM

I love how Betty's life is terrible

If they won't kill her off, at least this is good

bluetoast · 05-13-12, 10:07 PM

Man, Don pitching that Devil idea was a far cry from the carousel in Season 1. Maybe Ginsberg was right to feel bad for him.

bunkaroo · 05-13-12, 10:13 PM

That vile fat bitch!

Decker · 05-13-12, 10:59 PM

It was a little weird that they spent the entire episode focusing on and exploring every character's insecurities. I really liked it, but they're not usually that up-front and obvious about what the overriding theme of the episodes are. If nothing else, it was a different way for them to tackle an episode.

PopcornTreeCt · 05-14-12, 12:15 AM

Odd episode. I really liked it though. I think this was the episode that Jessica Pare finally won me over. She's really, really good.

I like Ginsburg, even if he's kind of a dick. Fat Betty was better this time. And Rory Gilmore... oh my.

Decker · 05-14-12, 12:24 AM

Just read this week's Time Magazine article about this season of Mad Men. They make several criticisms about the show being too crafted and unsubtle. It's the point I was making before, of course far more elegantly put. But I swear, I didn't make it based on that article; there's been a deliberate shift in the writing of the show this year. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this new telegraphing of themes.

PopcornTreeCt · 05-14-12, 12:57 AM

I greatly disagree. I think they striked a perfect balance with themes on the show. There is so much there that is still underneath the surface. I think this has been the best season of the show.

Thrush · 05-14-12, 02:30 AM

I liked sally putting the screws to Betty when she was asked what Megan said about Anna. And the line at the Thanksgiving dinner.

"Shes hungry Bobby"

lamphorn · 05-14-12, 04:09 AM

Call me a crazed fan, but I utterly fucking love this show. I loved it's muted themes from years past and I love it's current colorful nuttiness. I just fucking love it.

Tscott · 05-14-12, 04:58 AM

Great episode. Anyone know who played Megan's acting friend who was going to audition for Dark Shadows?

Turd Ferguson · 05-14-12, 10:25 AM

I've been laughing at this all morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulC0Lerkkbc

Jack Straw · 05-14-12, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turd Ferguson

I've been laughing at this all morning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulC0Lerkkbc

LOL...That's awesome! I'm going to be singing that in my head all day now.

Jack Straw · 05-14-12, 01:03 PM

I really didn't care for this week. Maybe it was the return of Ugly (Fat) Betty attending her weight-watchers meetings and weighing ounces of cheese cubes. Unless there's some issue with the kids, they should really just ignore Betty entirely. How else is she relevant to Don? Also, they have used Don's past enough and should move on to other plot lines. Everyone pretty much knows the deal. The highlight (of course) was Pete's wet dream which like an orgasm was totally enjoyable but fleeting. It was clear that she was the real motive for him doing that interview. It was pretty funny when Pete told Howard to go screw his side-dish and he would go home to his house and screw his wife. I'm surprised the guy didn't react more defensively and harshly.

Thanks again to TF for "Fat Betty"!

bunkaroo · 05-14-12, 01:12 PM

I'm so glad someone made that video! The first episode we saw her this season I immediately heard "Fat Betty" in my head - I think I even posted that line.

Loved her Thanksgiving plate.

uteotw · 05-14-12, 01:16 PM

Wow--lots of profiles of despicable people. Can't figure out who was worse.

boogieman03 · 05-14-12, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thrush

I liked sally putting the screws to Betty when she was asked what Megan said about Anna. And the line at the Thanksgiving dinner.

"Shes hungry Bobby"

Yeah, I totally enjoyed that!

Jack Straw · 05-14-12, 01:52 PM

Plus it will become even clearer to Sally what a divisive and manipulative witch she has for a mother.

Decker · 05-14-12, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt

I greatly disagree. I think they striked a perfect balance with themes on the show. There is so much there that is still underneath the surface. I think this has been the best season of the show.

Sure I still love the show -- it's still my favorite show on TV. But in a single episode, you had scenes depicting Don's insecurities, Megan's insecurities, Pete's insecurities, Roger's insecurities, Betty's insecurities, Sally's insecurities, Ginsberg's insecurities, Peggy's insecurities, Jane's insecurities, and maybe Bert's as well. It just seems like a little overkill, don't you think?

Too bad Joan and Lane weren't in the episode or their insecurities could be explored as well.

andicus · 05-14-12, 03:16 PM

Joan was in the episode, near the beginning.

Roger is always good for a laugh: "Sterling, Campbell, Draper, Price. Can I help you?"

Decker · 05-14-12, 03:19 PM

I'm partial to the line "Just how Jewish are we talking about? Fiddler On The Roof : Audience or cast?"

05-13-12, 03:27 PM	#1
DJariya DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: La Palma, CA Posts: 27,343	Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 By djariya at 2012-03-22 Synopsis: Spoiler: Don's competitive nature comes to the fore; Roger pursues some new clients; Sally is met with a challenge. Episode 9 of 13

05-13-12, 04:29 PM	#2
auto DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: East of Ypsi Posts: 7,421	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 9 of 13! Man, this season is flying by. They weren't kidding about minimal Betty. Surprised they even bothered with her weird fat episode. __________________ I'll let you be in my dreams if I can be in yours. I said that. Bob Dylan

05-13-12, 04:36 PM	#3
Mike86 DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 3,970	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Dang this season is going by really fast. It won't be long before we're having to wait who knows how long for another to begin . On the plus side we're getting closer to Breaking Bad Season Five .

05-13-12, 04:38 PM	#4
misterchimpy Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 913	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Interesting title, ha. According to Wikipedia, Dark Shadows debuted on June 27,1966, so of course would fit right in with the timeframe of the episode(Revolver was released on August 5,1966). And of course, duh, I'm sure it has some double meaning for whoever seems destined to buy it this season. Maybe we'll get some shots of Pete lurking in the bushes outside of Rory Gilmore's house or sucking the blood out of her neck. I'm sure it's not a coincidence either that it is timed for the weekend of the movie's opening. Maybe it's like a really clever product placement ad? (So that's how they paid for the Beatles song!) BTW, programming note, the cast of Mad Men will be on "Inside the Actors Studio" on Monday, 5/14 at 7 pm(and then repeated a million times). Looks like they have pretty much all of the leads(what, no Jessica Pare or Aaron Staton????). The blog says they spent 6 hours taping it, that must really have been exhausting. http://www.bravotv.com/inside-the-ac...ad-mad-mad-men

05-13-12, 05:06 PM	#5
Jack Straw DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: May 1999 Location: So. Calif. Posts: 4,271	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Thanks for the heads-up about Lipton. Got it set to record. __________________ "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather you should skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, boilermaker in the other, body totally used up, totally worn out and screaming 'woo hoo, what a ride!" - author unknown

05-13-12, 10:06 PM	#6
anomynous DVD Talk Gold Edition Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: STL Posts: 2,247	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I love how Betty's life is terrible If they won't kill her off, at least this is good

05-13-12, 10:07 PM	#7
bluetoast DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 6,019	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Man, Don pitching that Devil idea was a far cry from the carousel in Season 1. Maybe Ginsberg was right to feel bad for him. __________________ Uh oh...

05-13-12, 10:13 PM	#8
bunkaroo DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 11,868	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 That vile fat bitch!

05-13-12, 10:59 PM	#9
Decker DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Vegas, Baby! Posts: 21,579	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 It was a little weird that they spent the entire episode focusing on and exploring every character's insecurities. I really liked it, but they're not usually that up-front and obvious about what the overriding theme of the episodes are. If nothing else, it was a different way for them to tackle an episode. __________________ Xbox Live: Decker 01........... My 360's Blog PSN Gamertag : Decker01 GAME CENTER ID : DECKER 01 I haven't seen Evil Dead 2.....yet.

05-14-12, 12:15 AM	#10
PopcornTreeCt DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 25,826	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Odd episode. I really liked it though. I think this was the episode that Jessica Pare finally won me over. She's really, really good. I like Ginsburg, even if he's kind of a dick. Fat Betty was better this time. And Rory Gilmore... oh my.

05-14-12, 12:24 AM	#11
Decker DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Vegas, Baby! Posts: 21,579	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Just read this week's Time Magazine article about this season of Mad Men. They make several criticisms about the show being too crafted and unsubtle. It's the point I was making before, of course far more elegantly put. But I swear, I didn't make it based on that article; there's been a deliberate shift in the writing of the show this year. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this new telegraphing of themes. __________________ Xbox Live: Decker 01........... My 360's Blog PSN Gamertag : Decker01 GAME CENTER ID : DECKER 01 I haven't seen Evil Dead 2.....yet.

05-14-12, 12:57 AM	#12
PopcornTreeCt DVD Talk Hero Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 25,826	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I greatly disagree. I think they striked a perfect balance with themes on the show. There is so much there that is still underneath the surface. I think this has been the best season of the show.

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Thrush DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Under a dead Ohio sky Posts: 4,068	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I liked sally putting the screws to Betty when she was asked what Megan said about Anna. And the line at the Thanksgiving dinner. "Shes hungry Bobby" Last edited by Thrush; 05-14-12 at 02:49 AM.

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lamphorn DVD Talk Special Edition Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,706	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Call me a crazed fan, but I utterly fucking love this show. I loved it's muted themes from years past and I love it's current colorful nuttiness. I just fucking love it.

05-14-12, 04:58 AM	#15
Tscott DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,193	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Great episode. Anyone know who played Megan's acting friend who was going to audition for Dark Shadows? __________________ I won't say anything because no one ever listens to me anyway. I might as well be a Leonard Cohen record. -Neil, The Young Ones

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Turd Ferguson DVD Talk Limited Edition Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 5,545	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I've been laughing at this all morning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulC0Lerkkbc __________________ Live every week like it's shark week. -Tracy Jordan, 30 Rock

05-14-12, 01:03 PM	#18
Jack Straw DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: May 1999 Location: So. Calif. Posts: 4,271	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I really didn't care for this week. Maybe it was the return of Ugly (Fat) Betty attending her weight-watchers meetings and weighing ounces of cheese cubes. Unless there's some issue with the kids, they should really just ignore Betty entirely. How else is she relevant to Don? Also, they have used Don's past enough and should move on to other plot lines. Everyone pretty much knows the deal. The highlight (of course) was Pete's wet dream which like an orgasm was totally enjoyable but fleeting. It was clear that she was the real motive for him doing that interview. It was pretty funny when Pete told Howard to go screw his side-dish and he would go home to his house and screw his wife. I'm surprised the guy didn't react more defensively and harshly. Thanks again to TF for "Fat Betty"! __________________ "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather you should skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, boilermaker in the other, body totally used up, totally worn out and screaming 'woo hoo, what a ride!" - author unknown Last edited by Jack Straw; 05-14-12 at 04:38 PM.

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bunkaroo DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Posts: 11,868	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I'm so glad someone made that video! The first episode we saw her this season I immediately heard "Fat Betty" in my head - I think I even posted that line. Loved her Thanksgiving plate.

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uteotw DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 3,730	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Wow--lots of profiles of despicable people. Can't figure out who was worse. __________________ I want you to hit me as hard as you can. My Gamertag: PraySilence

05-14-12, 01:52 PM	#22
Jack Straw DVD Talk Ultimate Edition Join Date: May 1999 Location: So. Calif. Posts: 4,271	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Plus it will become even clearer to Sally what a divisive and manipulative witch she has for a mother. __________________ "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather you should skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, boilermaker in the other, body totally used up, totally worn out and screaming 'woo hoo, what a ride!" - author unknown Last edited by Jack Straw; 05-14-12 at 02:21 PM.

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andicus DVD Talk Platinum Edition Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 3,300	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 Joan was in the episode, near the beginning. Roger is always good for a laugh: "Sterling, Campbell, Draper, Price. Can I help you?"

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Decker DVD Talk Legend Join Date: Aug 1999 Location: Vegas, Baby! Posts: 21,579	Re: Mad Men -- "Dark Shadows" -- 5/13/12 I'm partial to the line "Just how Jewish are we talking about? Fiddler On The Roof : Audience or cast?" __________________ Xbox Live: Decker 01........... My 360's Blog PSN Gamertag : Decker01 GAME CENTER ID : DECKER 01 I haven't seen Evil Dead 2.....yet.